Manchester United

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Goes down quite badly though, no? You can’t sack millionaire Marcus Rashford to save £300k a week, but you can sack the people who clean the toilets. 

From an emotional point of view maybe? From a business point of view why would I incur a hefty cost to dispose of an asset? 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

9 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

From an emotional point of view maybe? From a business point of view why would I incur a hefty cost to dispose of an asset? 

Sure, I was talking in moral terms really. 
 

[r0cafella]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Sure, I was talking in moral terms really. 
 

As I know your aware that world seems to have very little relevance nowadays. 

[Froggy]

12 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Goes down quite badly though, no? You can’t sack millionaire Marcus Rashford to save £300k a week, but you can sack the people who clean the toilets. 

 

They are actively trying to move Rashford to be fair. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

59 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

As I know your aware that world seems to have very little relevance nowadays. 

 

You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. 

[David Edgar]

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Manchester United chief executive Omar Berrada has launched an investigation into Old Trafford leaks and has warned staff in a bombshell email that revealing club information will be considered “gross misconduct” which could get them sacked.

Berrada sent the 580-word missive to employees earlier this week as details of the radical cutbacks and potential redundancies at United have emerged, with co-owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe slashing jobs, cutting perks and streamlining expenditure in the year since taking control of football operations.

 

The investigation into leaking has got off to a strong start by being leaked. 

[Crimson Cardigan]

I mean they’re probably all going to get fired in the end whether they leak or not. It’s almost like fanatically driving morale into the ground might have a negative impact?

[El Prontonise]

8 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

I mean they’re probably all going to get fired in the end whether they leak or not. It’s almost like fanatically driving morale into the ground might have a negative impact?

 

Sacked and laid off are 2 different things though.

[Crimson Cardigan]

3 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

Sacked and laid off are 2 different things though.

Indeed, I’m being a bit tongue in cheek here. I’m suggesting there’s little chance of quelling the leaks when everyone hates you and sees how you treat their mates with such ruthlessness.

 

 

Edited February 21 by Crimson Cardigan

[El Prontonise]

1 minute ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

Indeed, I’m being a bit tongue in cheek here. I’m suggesting there’s little chance of quelling the leaks when everyone hates you and sees how you treat their mates with such ruthlessness.

 

 

 

 

I agree with that.

[The Fountain]

10 hours ago, Froggy said:

I genuinely don't mind the whole penny pinching thing. Also, while it's shite for the people involved, it was probably necessary to trim an extremely bloated workforce. The issue comes when INEOS are continuing the trend of awful decisions, and throwing money away needlessly. 

 

Apparently, the 250 job cuts will save £10m a year. Yet since the summer we've now spent £14.5m on extending Ten Hag, sacking Ten Hag, hiring Ashworth and sacking Ashworth. It's a fucking huge slap in the face. This is apparently while having the "best in class" to make these decisions.

250 people may be off the books but I'd imagine that outside contractors will take on some of the roles, making the £10m saving a lot smaller in reality.

[Ben]

Any reason why Man Utd didn't just be a professional club and hire Thomas Frank ?

[Pablo123]

20 minutes ago, Ben said:

Any reason why Man Utd didn't just be a professional club and hire Thomas Frank ?

Or Steve Bruce 

[Kaizero]

Just popping by this thread with a quick reminder that this is the ranking for notable Man Utd managers when it comes to league matches with Points Won vs No Points Won:

 

1. Sir Alex Ferguson‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 85.92%
2. Jose Mourinho‎‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 81.72%
3. Ole Gunnar Solskjær‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 77.98%
4. Louis Van Gaal‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 76.31%
5. Ernest Mangnall‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 74.53%
6. Matt Busby‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 73.79%
7. Ralf Rangnick‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 70.83%
8. David Moyes‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 67.64%
9. Erik Ten Hag‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎‎  ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ –‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 66.23%
10. Ruben Amorim‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎‎ ‎ ‎ ‎‎  ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎–‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ ‎ 42.85%

 

 

 

Edited February 21 by Kaizero

[Ben]

Just now, Pablo123 said:

Or Steve Bruce 

 

He doesn't have a Portuguese son does he ?

[Geogaddi]

All this bollocks about Amorim walking into a mess of a club so he can't be blamed for results is well and truly being showed up by the job Moyes is doing so far at Everton.

[54]

In their next 3 they have Ipswich and Leicester. They can't be that shit they lose both of them, surely?

 

If they do, they'll actually be in the shit.

[Nobody]

Should have listened to Ashworth and brought an English manager in

[CPL]

I actually don't think Southgate would have been this bad. Think he would have got Rashford on board for starters. 

[54]

Just now, Nobody said:

Should have listened to Ashworth and brought an English manager in

I said at the time Ten Haag got appointed that Southgate wouldn't have actually been a horrendous appointment, and he certainly wouldn't have been as bad as Amorim has been so far. Southgate's downside is tactical, but what he lacks in that, he's gains in building chemistry and changing the mentality of a team/nation, and that's what Man United needed, a little bit like what OGS bought, he wouldn't have been a long term solution as his limitations would eventually catch up with him, but at the time, given where their squad and team was at, he made sense, and could have been a facilitator to get them back to where they think the belong, for the next guy to then take them to that next level.

 

As it is they got someone who very clearly needs a full pre-season to get his ideas across, is young and inexperienced, and naive to the extreme, and they're paying the price for it, and its glorious to watch.

[andycap]

15 minutes ago, 54 said:

In their next 3 they have Ipswich and Leicester. They can't be that shit they lose both of them, surely?

 

If they do, they'll actually be in the shit.

Mind you they needed an offside goal to beat Leicester last time. 

[Ben]

I reckon Almiron is probably a good coach but not a good manager, he could probably do with an elder statesman along side him to keep the squad in harmony 

[andycap]

3 minutes ago, CPL said:

I actually don't think Southgate would have been this bad. Think he would have got Rashford on board for starters. 

He dropped rashford for the euros so I wouldn't think they'd be on good terms. 

[El Prontonise]

1 minute ago, Ben said:

I reckon Almiron is probably a good coach but not a good manager, he could probably do with an elder statesman along side him to keep the squad in harmony 

 

Squad harmony is not the issue, it sounds like his actions on rashford etc got the full backing of the squad.

[Rich]

Where do people think Bruno Fernandes could/should jump ship to in the summer?