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Sibierski

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6 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

We're writing off the 20 year old who signed 8 weeks ago already? :lol: 


Yes.

 

But of course Man Utd fans will rightly defend him because he’s their player, and still will defend to the hill like they’re doing with Hojlund.

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Froggy

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1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

Yes.

 

But of course Man Utd fans will rightly defend him because he’s their player, and still will defend to the hill like they’re doing with Hojlund.

 

I wouldn't be so sure on that. :lol: Hojlund came in and scored 16 goals as a 19/20 year old. Aside from the first game or two, Dorgu has been absolutely rubbish.

 

Just think it's much too early to completely write off the lad.

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4 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

I wouldn't be so sure on that. :lol: Hojlund came in and scored 16 goals as a 19/20 year old. Aside from the first game or two, Dorgu has been absolutely rubbish.

 

Just think it's much too early to completely write off the lad.

Of course it is. But it's still fun taking the piss because it's Man Utd.

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11 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

I wouldn't be so sure on that. :lol: Hojlund came in and scored 16 goals as a 19/20 year old. Aside from the first game or two, Dorgu has been absolutely rubbish.

 

Just think it's much too early to completely write off the lad.

FWIW, that Amass looked 10x the player based on yesterdays viewing, the difference was actually stark. 

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11 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

I wouldn't be so sure on that. :lol: Hojlund came in and scored 16 goals as a 19/20 year old. Aside from the first game or two, Dorgu has been absolutely rubbish.

 

Just think it's much too early to completely write off the lad.

FWIW, that Amass looked 10x the player based on yesterdays viewing, the difference was actually stark. 

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Kaizero

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17 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

I wouldn't be so sure on that. :lol: Hojlund came in and scored 16 goals as a 19/20 year old. Aside from the first game or two, Dorgu has been absolutely rubbish.

 

Just think it's much too early to completely write off the lad.

 

Højlund has always been shit. Said it at the time he signed for Man Utd as well, though almost none agreed with me at the time. Feel my opinion back then is fairly vindicated by now, though :lol: All that guy's ever been is a hyped up mediocre striker made to sound better than he was, and ever would be, by desperate Danish people shouting about him being "the Danish Isak/Haaland". He was not. The Danes don't have a good striker, just as they 100% sound as if they're choking on potatoes whenever they open their mouths to try saying Højlund isn't just an average striker, at best. They should learn to accept that.

 

I mean... Man Utd paid £64 million (with £8 in add-ons on top of that) for a striker Atalanta had paid £14 million for less than 12 months earlier. Now, if Højlund had actually performed for Atalanta, that wouldn't seem as fucked up as it does looking at it now. He didn't, though, as he finished his lone Atalanta season with a league average of 1 goal per 204 minutes played.

 

Before signing for Atalanta, he played briefly for Sturm Graz where he posted a better record of 1 goal per 173 minutes played in the Austrian Bundesliga. Fast forward through his time at Man Utd and he's currently posting an average of 1 goal per 290 minutes played. 173 professional club appearances in his career to date (not counting national team apps) with 51 goals scored. 

 

He's absolute dogshit and Man Utd wasted a shitfuckton of money on a player that hadn't proven jack shit other than the fact Danish people can make such a fuzz about mediocrity that they make Man Utd throw away money.

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7 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

They're still England's biggest club - they're going to get coverage.

 

We got large amounts of coverage even when we were at our shittest, oversized compared to our league performances.

This is it, whether you like it or not they are one of 2 iconic English football clubs..... the other one isn't us btw :mike:

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Froggy

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9 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

Højlund has always been shit. Said it at the time he signed for Man Utd as well, though almost none agreed with me at the time. Feel my opinion back then is fairly vindicated by now, though :lol: All that guy's ever been is a hyped up mediocre striker made to sound better than he was, and ever would be, by desperate Danish people shouting about him being "the Danish Isak/Haaland". He was not. The Danes don't have a good striker, just as they 100% sound as if they're choking on potatoes whenever they open their mouths to try saying Højlund isn't just an average striker, at best. They should learn to accept that.

 

I mean... Man Utd paid £64 million (with £8 in add-ons on top of that) for a striker Atalanta had paid £14 million for less than 12 months earlier. Now, if Højlund had actually performed for Atalanta, that wouldn't seem as fucked up as it does looking at it now. He didn't, though, as he finished his lone Atalanta season with a league average of 1 goal per 204 minutes played.

 

Before signing for Atalanta, he played briefly for Sturm Graz where he posted a better record of 1 goal per 173 minutes played in the Austrian Bundesliga. Fast forward through his time at Man Utd and he's currently posting an average of 1 goal per 290 minutes played. 173 professional club appearances in his career to date (not counting national team apps) with 51 goals scored. 

 

He's absolute dogshit and Man Utd wasted a shitfuckton of money on a player that hadn't proven jack shit other than the fact Danish people can make such a fuzz about mediocrity that they make Man Utd throw away money.

 

There's three things here.

 

1) It sounds like a Norway vs. Denmark thing.

2) A goal every 204 minutes for a 19 year old in a top five league is nothing to be sniffed at. Neither is finishing as top scorer for Man United in your debut season.

3) A season or two before this you were advocating for us to sign Josh King :lol: (while also saying it was a done deal as you knew the agents dealing with it).

 

Pinch of salt and all that. 

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6 minutes ago, Froggy said:

3) A season or two before this you were advocating for us to sign Josh King :lol: (while also saying it was a done deal as you knew the agents dealing with it).

 

Pinch of salt and all that. 

 

This was confirmed by King less than three weeks ago, fwiw :lol: 

 

https://www.vg.no/sport/i/bmbjaA/joshua-king-om-manchester-united-avtalen-som-gikk-i-vasken-helt-knust

 

"King says that he went into the office of then-Bournemouth manager Eddie Howe. The Norwegian thanked him for everything he had done for him. But now an opportunity had arisen that he would never get again. Solskjær and United had made an offer.

 

– Then I shared everything and said that I wanted to leave. Because I moved to England to go to United. The dream was to play for United. Now United are struggling with a striker. They have a Norwegian coach who is interested. Put an offer on the table, and I came there for free. And then you say no to 25 million, says King.

 

– He (Eddie Howe) said, “Joshua, I won't stand in your way, but the club wants X number of millions,” says King.

 

On the last day of the transfer window, he just wanted to be by himself. The solution was to sit alone in the jacuzzi in the garden.

– I just sat in the jacuzzi for two or three hours waiting for the phone. I called Jim (Solbakken), who was working on that deal. And then I remember reading "Ighalo ready for United". Then I was completely devastated. Then I was way down. That is why I wanted to leave Bournemouth."

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Kaizero

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10 minutes ago, Froggy said:

1) It sounds like a Norway vs. Denmark thing.

2) A goal every 204 minutes for a 19 year old in a top five league is nothing to be sniffed at. Neither is finishing as top scorer for Man United in your debut season.

 

1. It is :lol: 

2. It's not something to be sniffed at, but given the grand scheme of context – it doesn't scream "70 million striker" either. Also, the last part of this point isn't something to brag about, as he finished with 10 league goals... unless, of course, 10 goals for Man Utd's top scoring player in the league is good by Man Utd standards...? :pow: 

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Kaizero

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2 minutes ago, Froggy said:

So it wasn't a done deal. :lol: 

 

It was :lol: Bournemouth just reneged on the agreed sum, the contract for King was ready to be signed (which wouldn't be the case if a bid hadn't been accepted). King's complaining about being told he'd not be sold to Man Utd after he'd originally been told he was.

 

 

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The College Dropout

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That Hojlund is one of the most fortunate players ever. He escapes a lot of criticism.  I’ve never seen anything to his game bar a bit of graft.  
 

Zirkzee has got more stick but Zirkzee has something. Not a top PL striker or even a particularly good one. But he’s got a god touch and technique about him. 
 

Hojlund is completely off the level.  
 

Thibk they’ve made a lot of poor decisions. They’ve regressed so badly from the McFred days.   The season they finished second the team had so much quality.  It’s all gone now. 

 

 

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Cronky

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Trevor Francis (great player, mediocre manager, for those too young) once said that you can't achieve anything without a happy dressing room. There's nothing wrong with their squad. It's the spirit that's the problem.

 

It can't be a help to have a manager (and I think a captain) who keeps giving them the message that they're not good enough.

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Going to be interesting to see how their recruitment goes this summer.

 

Things both on and off the pitch have been such a bad look it's now getting to the point players will start turning them down to go elsewhere, unless they throw much bigger salaries at them, which will likely attract the wrong type of characters.

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Froggy

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1 minute ago, KaKa said:

Going to be interesting to see how their recruitment goes this summer.

 

Things both on and off the pitch have been such a bad look it's now getting to the point players will start turning them down to go elsewhere, unless they throw much bigger salaries at them, which will likely attract the wrong type of characters.

 

Would take Tonali if he's available? :lol: What a player.

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2 hours ago, NSG said:

Genuinely one of the shittest teams I’ve seen come to SJP.

 

The fact they scored a goal is a travesty. 
 

No wonder they couldn’t sell out their away end.

 

Couldn't believe the amount of empty spaces in their end yesterday. Don't remember ever seeing that before. Fair enough they've just had a midweek trip to France but that turnout for a club of their size was pitiful. Maybe 2.5k there at best, probably a bit less.

 

Should move the segregation divide along next season to reduce their allocation and allow more home fans in.

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