Lush Vlad Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 Yes and no. That setup and XI won’t necessarily be the best for every game. I’ve not checked. But I bet Forest have some of the worst possession stats in the league, for example. We would have more of the ball and better territory. The high press probably wouldn’t be so effective. So perhaps a game for Tonali to come in from the start and maybe even try to get a more attack minded player in like Barnes. Who can score goals out of nothing. Nice to have those options and a decent’ish looking bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 Two joes on the left going forwards, don’t care if it pisses Gordon off. Were a much better team for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 2 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Two joes on the left going forwards, don’t care if it pisses Gordon off. Were a much better team for it. He didn’t look pissed off today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 We may not even have a RW issue if Gordon stays on the right as we have Joe and Barnes who can play there well. Murphy / Almiron is decent backup for RW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 We looked a mess ever since we went 4-4-2. and can we stick with the two joes on the left..Stick Gordon or whoever on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Fair play to West Ham, they’ve passed the ball to each. Makes such a difference when you do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 We desperately need to take away transfer decisions from Howe and look towards transitioning to a manager who doesn't need to rely on runners to get results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Might be some enforced changes if Willock and Bruno are crocked. Bruno is like Gordon and has mad recovery and seems to play all the while. Willock not so much…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Pope Trippier Schär Burn Hall Willock Guimarães Tonali Joelinton Isak Gordon -- Would anyone else give this a try? Keeps the Willock/Joelinton combination alive—although I appreciate it's on the opposite flank—and gets Trippier in behind them to feed them, and assist with our in-possession build-up. Puts Tonali in his supposedly favoured position, keeps Gordon's pet lip in by leaving him in his preferred spot, and means we don't need to see Almirón, Murphy, or Longstaff on the pitch from the start. It comes with its own issues, but I'm of the thinking it's the best option we have available to us for balance and to try and build some consistency. We could also just not play 4-3-3 every game, like, which might be an option in this undoubtedly fleeting period of Wilson being available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Can we just try something other than 4-3-3? I'd like to see us play a 5-2-1-2, just for a bit of variation. We may lose but I think we have 2 ball progressors at wingback, Bruno and Tonali double pivot, willock causing havok, and Isak wont be so isolated? Pope Trippier - Schar, Burn, Kelly - Hall Bruno - Tonali Willock Gordon - Isak Could be terrible, but I cant hack this 4-3-3 every game, its so inconsistent and teams know we are coming with the 4-3-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 4-3-3 is fine, it’s just the positions with and without the ball that’s the issue, I.e. flat midfield without the ball, big gaps when building out from Bruno. In possession Tino Schar Burn Tonali Hall Barnes Bruno Joelinton Gordon Isak Out of possession (with narrow midfield) Tino Schar Burn Hall Barnes Bruno Tonali Joelinton Gordon Isak Get the opposition forced to move it out to their full backs and have to make progressive gains through them. When it goes to wingers, Joelinton can move out wider to support Hall, everyone shuffles over and Gordon covers right flank for any switches as that would be weaker side. Vice versa, you back Joelinton / Tonali to have physical power to make up ground and be disciplined more than other side. Gordon / Isak central can block off any deep CMs and have support on counter as a pair. In possession, all about getting Bruno closer to the opposition box and having more players around it. Barnes / Gordon to rotate at times in attacking build ups, Hall to still be the progressor of ball from deep but Tonali there for physical cover instead of Bruno. We have the personnel to change our patterns of play. RW the issue for me, as everyone there is a runner, so don’t have the finesse / composure you ideally want on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 (edited) Two things…Firstly forget this zonal marking from defending corners, it’s not working and we look leaky. secondly if your only tactic is to create chances from going out wide, work on crossing and get people in the box. Edited November 30 by Ronson333 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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