Twinport53 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Cabaye a DM? No, no, no, no, no. Well playing deep. I don't mean like a midfield destroyer like Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Cabaye a DM? No, no, no, no, no. Well playing deep. I don't mean like a midfield destroyer like Tiote. Playing deep doesn't make him a DM though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 When people say replacement for Cabaye they don't mean in a positional sense. They mean skillset wise, he'll replace a lot of guile that Cabaye gave the team. In a sense we haven't and won't IMO replace Cabaye in a positional sense but we have replaced his skillset in Cabella and De Jong. That's what people mean by Cabaye replacement, not that he's gonna play CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 When people say replacement for Cabaye they don't mean in a positional sense. They mean skillset wise, he'll replace a lot of guile that Cabaye gave the team. In a sense we haven't and won't IMO replace Cabaye in a positional sense but we have replaced his skillset in Cabella and De Jong. That's what people mean by Cabaye replacement, not that he's gonna play CM. Nope, I have had a Mackem and a Arsenal fan say they don't thing he will survive in the 'engine room' as he doesn't have the build for it. They definitely meant CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 so i guess next season the plan is Riviere Cabella De Jong Sissoko Tiote Anita (or Colback?) Haidara Colo Wilo Janmaat Krul Tbh looks reasonable, but I dunno about De Jong and Riviere tbh It'll definitely be Colback over Anita. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 When people say replacement for Cabaye they don't mean in a positional sense. They mean skillset wise, he'll replace a lot of guile that Cabaye gave the team. In a sense we haven't and won't IMO replace Cabaye in a positional sense but we have replaced his skillset in Cabella and De Jong. That's what people mean by Cabaye replacement, not that he's gonna play CM. Nope, I have had a Mackem and a Arsenal fan say they don't thing he will survive in the 'engine room' as he doesn't have the build for it. They definitely meant CM. Meh i can't control what someone says, rest assured the large majority know he isn't gonna be playing CM though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 When people say replacement for Cabaye they don't mean in a positional sense. They mean skillset wise, he'll replace a lot of guile that Cabaye gave the team. In a sense we haven't and won't IMO replace Cabaye in a positional sense but we have replaced his skillset in Cabella and De Jong. That's what people mean by Cabaye replacement, not that he's gonna play CM. Nope, I have had a Mackem and a Arsenal fan say they don't thing he will survive in the 'engine room' as he doesn't have the build for it. They definitely meant CM. Meh i can't control what someone says, rest assured the large majority know he isn't gonna be playing CM though. You say that, but alot of our own fan base will still be behind Pardew come 16th August. Therefore it is hard to rest assured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 so i guess next season the plan is Riviere Cabella De Jong Sissoko Tiote Anita (or Colback?) Haidara Colo Wilo Janmaat Krul Tbh looks reasonable, but I dunno about De Jong and Riviere tbh Can already see the defensive sub Colback/Anita on and De Jong off. And Riviere or Cisse or whoever is the striker is left totally isolated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Thing is our '4-2-3-1' always turns out in practice to be this: Riviere De Jong Cabella Tiote Anita Sissoko Haidara Colo Wilo Janmaat Krul Which is a flat 4-4-1-1. We really need to take the brakes off our attacking players this season and let them do their jobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Thing is our '4-2-3-1' always turns out in practice to be this: Riviere De Jong Cabella Tiote Anita Sissoko Haidara Colo Wilo Janmaat Krul Which is a flat 4-4-1-1. We really need to take the brakes off our attacking players this season and let them do their jobs. Doesn't help that our central midfield is powder puff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think our central midfield can be made to look worse than it is at times by us inviting pressure onto ourselves. When we drop deep we give the opposition free rein to push players up and they then naturally have more options than they would otherwise. If we maintained an attacking threat even when not in possession we'd free a bit of space for the midfield to work in and be able to stretch the space more than we do now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think our central midfield can be made to look worse than it is at times by us inviting pressure onto ourselves. When we drop deep we give the opposition free rein to push players up and they then naturally have more options than they would otherwise. If we maintained an attacking threat even when not in possession we'd free a bit of space for the midfield to work in and be able to stretch the space more than we do now. It's just very run of the mill for me personally. The midfield unit doesn't excel at anything which is disappointing to say the least. I like Anita a lot but for me he can't be played as part of a "2" As for Tiote the less said the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Personally I would like to see Cabella and De Jong play centrally next season Would like to see us line up like this next season Juventus 3-5-2 (Cabella in Pirlo type role, Colback and Sissoko in the Pogba/Vidal type roles) Krul MYM Willo Colo Janmaat Haidara Sissoko Cabella Colback Riviere De Jong or a Liverpool 4-4-2 (Cabella in the Sterling/Coutinho role, Sissoko and Colback playing as Henderson/Allen) Krul Janmaat Willo Colo Haidara Tiote Sissoko Colback Cabella Riviere De Jong Not that this would be anywhere near the playbook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Cabella in Pirlo type role Oh, you're serious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Shayno comes out with another gem. We would just negate about every bit of Cabella's strengths if we play him in the Pirlo role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Shayno comes out with another gem. We would just negate about every bit of Cabella's strengths if we play him in the Pirlo role. Like what? Passing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Shayno comes out with another gem. We would just negate about every bit of Cabella's strengths if we play him in the Pirlo role. Like what? Passing? His pace, dribbling, crosses. All of which will not be utilised in a deep-lying Pirlo role. He isn't known for his long-range passing either, thicko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Play a skillful winger in a deep midfield role, can't see anything wrong with that idea at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 It's so bad I doubt even Pardew would try it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 It's so bad I doubt even Pardew would try it. He reminds me of Essien, if I am honest, he is that type. There is so much more to come from him if we can get him out of just popping it off safely. When he attacks teams and runs at them, he could be as effective for us as Essien is for Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BeloEmre Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 He's in Newcastle now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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