Guest Roger Kint Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Bonjour et bienvenue à Korzy le forum. Merci pour partager vos pensées sur nos nouvelles recrues. Nous sommes tous très excités par Cabella. Nous avons encore besoin d'un attaquant et Rivière ne semble pas assez bon. Pensez-vous que Lyon sont prêts à vendre Lacazette et à quel prix? You can speak English. This is your forum. I can understand written English. My problem is that I can't construct sentences in English so I use google translation to try to make me understand. You can speak English. This is your forum. I can understand written English. My problem is that I can not construct sentences in English so I use google translation to try to make me understand. Aulas (Lyon president) and the new coach (Hubbert Fournier) want to keep Lacazette. The fans too. Lyon could sell Grenier but Lacazette seems very complicated. Without him, Lyon couldn't hope to finish in third place to qualify for the Champions League and he hasn't finished progressing. If he continues as he has this season, he could score 25-30 goals next season and Lyon could sell very expensive in 2015. He's the best young player (with Martial) formed by Lyon since Benzema. An offer of 20 million would be its current price but his importance to Lyon is huge so I don't think it would suffice. Especially that Aulas sold last season Anthony Martial (huge potential) because the club refused to sell Gonalons Naples and they needed money. The fans were angry, they are insulted Aulas on Twitter and Facebook saying before he was a great president but the last 4 years he becomes a crazy old man. They have already sold Gomis and Antony Martial. They only have two strikers : Lacazette and Benzia (good potential but no experience) So I don't think Lacazette leave except Newcastle offers 25 million. I cant see Newcastle spending anywhere near that amount. Can you think of any other strikers in Ligue 1, that Newcastle could potentially target? Vincent Aboubakar ( 10-15 millions ) much better than Rivière, he scores 16 goals in 36matchs. Wissam Ben Yedder he scores 17 buts in 42 matchs ( 5 assists ) I don't know how much he costs but he's very good, he has played with Rivière at Toulouse and we saw that he was much better than him! Problem, he isn't tall and not very strong, I don't know if his profile is suitable for the Premier League. Is Aboubakar a target man type player? The video i saw stated he was weakest at holding the ball but hes 6Ft+ and can play across the front Edit: Like a bigger version of Cisse really without the out of nowhere screamers although thats only based on about 8 mins of highlights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 We've already got a version of Cisse without the out of nowhere screamers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Korzy Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Is Aboubakar a target man type player? He played Valenciennes during 3 years (2010-2013). He was a very bad striker! Powerful, fast, but lacking technical, intelligence and finishing. But since he is in Lorient, he became good. He has really progressed! It is still fast and powerful, technically better, better finish, good enough to head ... If I had to compare him to a player, I'd say it's Demba Ba younger and faster. But he has make only a good season. I don't know if next season he will be even better or become the player that he was at Valenciennes ! For me, best strikers in L1 ( 2013-2014 ) 1. Ibra 2. Cavani 3. Lacazette 4. Kalou 5. Aboubakar/Gignac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Is Aboubakar a target man type player? He played Valenciennes during 3 years (2010-2013). He was a very bad striker! Powerful, fast, but lacking technical, intelligence and finishing. But since he is in Lorient, he became good. He has really progressed! It is still fast and powerful, technically better, better finish, good enough to head ... If I had to compare him to a player, I'd say it's Demba Ba younger and faster. But he has make only a good season. I don't know if next season he will be even better or become the player that he was at Valenciennes ! For me, best strikers in L1 ( 2013-2014 ) 1. Ibra 2. Cavani 3. Lacazette 4. Kalou 5. Aboubakar/Gignac You forgot Riviere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 If I had to compare him to a player, I'd say it's Demba Ba younger and faster. http://finalciak.com/wp-content/uploads/shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpeg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 If I had to compare him to a player, I'd say it's Demba Ba younger and faster. http://finalciak.com/wp-content/uploads/shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpeg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I completely agree with every thing my fellow countryman wrote. Especially his description of Rivière (headless chicken) which I found extremely accurate. :lol: His opinion on Grenier is spot on too, I think he's stagnating and he really needs to play at an other level, with a coach that can help him find his game, I think he'll be better as deep-lying playmaker for instance. And as for Lacazette there's simply no chance of getting him considering he's the best player that came out of their academy since Benzema. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 "He wanted to go there. Because I like the little guy, I told him 'Bravo'. "In England, there is Arsenal, Manchester City and Manchester United who are better than Newcastle, but Newcastle is a club with a lot of French players. "He likes that -- all the better for him. Personally, I wouldn't go to Newcastle. "But in any case, he has the ability to succeed in England. That's certain." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 "He wanted to go there. Because I like the little guy, I told him 'Bravo'. "In England, there is Arsenal, Manchester City and Manchester United who are better than Newcastle, but Newcastle is a club with a lot of French players. "He likes that -- all the better for him. Personally, I wouldn't go to Newcastle. "But in any case, he has the ability to succeed in England. That's certain." But Nicollin, who adopted an uncompromising stance in January, was less than impressed with Cabella's decision to head for Tyneside. He told Foot Mercato: "He wanted to go. I wasn't happy, but I told him, 'Congratulations'. "In England, there is Arsenal, Manchester City, Manchester United, which are above Newcastle, but Newcastle is a club with a lot of French. He likes them, so great. "Personally, I would not go to Newcastle. But hey, I'll see him when he plays against a club in London! "He has what he wants, fine, we'll see. But in any case, he has the ability to succeed in England, that's for sure. "He is frail, but he's hard to catch." "It was not the 15 million euros, but it is not far." A different interpretation. Still, Nicollin is a massive arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Go to the beach Kiss You ®© Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I am already sick of people saying Cabella is the Cabaye replacement. He is a replacement in the sense that we shall look to play through him, so he is the main creative outlet. That is where the similarities end. Cabella is a winger or a CAM, Cabaye is a DM or a CM. Totally different styles of play, yet loads of people I talk to think Cabella is going to be playing in central midfield. Why is this? This is from some of our own fans, aswell as some mates who support the likes of Southampton and Arsenal etc, do these people not watch football? Yohan can't dribble to start with so they are hardly like for like replacements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Cabaye a DM? No, no, no, no, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Cabaye a DM? No, no, no, no, no. Well playing deep. I don't mean like a midfield destroyer like Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Cabaye a DM? No, no, no, no, no. Well playing deep. I don't mean like a midfield destroyer like Tiote. Playing deep doesn't make him a DM though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 When people say replacement for Cabaye they don't mean in a positional sense. They mean skillset wise, he'll replace a lot of guile that Cabaye gave the team. In a sense we haven't and won't IMO replace Cabaye in a positional sense but we have replaced his skillset in Cabella and De Jong. That's what people mean by Cabaye replacement, not that he's gonna play CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 When people say replacement for Cabaye they don't mean in a positional sense. They mean skillset wise, he'll replace a lot of guile that Cabaye gave the team. In a sense we haven't and won't IMO replace Cabaye in a positional sense but we have replaced his skillset in Cabella and De Jong. That's what people mean by Cabaye replacement, not that he's gonna play CM. Nope, I have had a Mackem and a Arsenal fan say they don't thing he will survive in the 'engine room' as he doesn't have the build for it. They definitely meant CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 so i guess next season the plan is Riviere Cabella De Jong Sissoko Tiote Anita (or Colback?) Haidara Colo Wilo Janmaat Krul Tbh looks reasonable, but I dunno about De Jong and Riviere tbh It'll definitely be Colback over Anita. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 When people say replacement for Cabaye they don't mean in a positional sense. They mean skillset wise, he'll replace a lot of guile that Cabaye gave the team. In a sense we haven't and won't IMO replace Cabaye in a positional sense but we have replaced his skillset in Cabella and De Jong. That's what people mean by Cabaye replacement, not that he's gonna play CM. Nope, I have had a Mackem and a Arsenal fan say they don't thing he will survive in the 'engine room' as he doesn't have the build for it. They definitely meant CM. Meh i can't control what someone says, rest assured the large majority know he isn't gonna be playing CM though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 When people say replacement for Cabaye they don't mean in a positional sense. They mean skillset wise, he'll replace a lot of guile that Cabaye gave the team. In a sense we haven't and won't IMO replace Cabaye in a positional sense but we have replaced his skillset in Cabella and De Jong. That's what people mean by Cabaye replacement, not that he's gonna play CM. Nope, I have had a Mackem and a Arsenal fan say they don't thing he will survive in the 'engine room' as he doesn't have the build for it. They definitely meant CM. Meh i can't control what someone says, rest assured the large majority know he isn't gonna be playing CM though. You say that, but alot of our own fan base will still be behind Pardew come 16th August. Therefore it is hard to rest assured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 so i guess next season the plan is Riviere Cabella De Jong Sissoko Tiote Anita (or Colback?) Haidara Colo Wilo Janmaat Krul Tbh looks reasonable, but I dunno about De Jong and Riviere tbh Can already see the defensive sub Colback/Anita on and De Jong off. And Riviere or Cisse or whoever is the striker is left totally isolated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Thing is our '4-2-3-1' always turns out in practice to be this: Riviere De Jong Cabella Tiote Anita Sissoko Haidara Colo Wilo Janmaat Krul Which is a flat 4-4-1-1. We really need to take the brakes off our attacking players this season and let them do their jobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Thing is our '4-2-3-1' always turns out in practice to be this: Riviere De Jong Cabella Tiote Anita Sissoko Haidara Colo Wilo Janmaat Krul Which is a flat 4-4-1-1. We really need to take the brakes off our attacking players this season and let them do their jobs. Doesn't help that our central midfield is powder puff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think our central midfield can be made to look worse than it is at times by us inviting pressure onto ourselves. When we drop deep we give the opposition free rein to push players up and they then naturally have more options than they would otherwise. If we maintained an attacking threat even when not in possession we'd free a bit of space for the midfield to work in and be able to stretch the space more than we do now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think our central midfield can be made to look worse than it is at times by us inviting pressure onto ourselves. When we drop deep we give the opposition free rein to push players up and they then naturally have more options than they would otherwise. If we maintained an attacking threat even when not in possession we'd free a bit of space for the midfield to work in and be able to stretch the space more than we do now. It's just very run of the mill for me personally. The midfield unit doesn't excel at anything which is disappointing to say the least. I like Anita a lot but for me he can't be played as part of a "2" As for Tiote the less said the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Personally I would like to see Cabella and De Jong play centrally next season Would like to see us line up like this next season Juventus 3-5-2 (Cabella in Pirlo type role, Colback and Sissoko in the Pogba/Vidal type roles) Krul MYM Willo Colo Janmaat Haidara Sissoko Cabella Colback Riviere De Jong or a Liverpool 4-4-2 (Cabella in the Sterling/Coutinho role, Sissoko and Colback playing as Henderson/Allen) Krul Janmaat Willo Colo Haidara Tiote Sissoko Colback Cabella Riviere De Jong Not that this would be anywhere near the playbook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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