Flip Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 That own goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 That own goal. Fuck the bed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 That own goal. f*** the bed. That is the clear definition of that man. The goalie throws the ball in the net ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 That own goal. f*** the bed. That is the clear definition of that man. The goalie throws the ball in the net ffs. Mark Bright @Mark__Bright 2h At Craven Cottage for the Nigeria v Scotland game, guy sitting next to me just ruined it, said it ends up 2-2. #worldcupwarmup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Seriously, hope we've paid Cameroon more than Croatia or Mexico are willing to do at the World Cup. Seems like another team having problem with player bonuses in the WC so might as well pay their bonuses in exchange for three points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 so, er, Cuauhtémoc Blanco is starting for Mexico tonight. Good call, Mexico. It's not like there's a world cup coming up, and even if there was, I'm sure you will have qualified with ease and definitely didn't need a last minute goal from your biggest rivals to spare your blushes. PSYCH, ALL THAT STUFF ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN OR IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 so, er, Cuauhtémoc Blanco is starting for Mexico tonight. Good call, Mexico. It's not like there's a world cup coming up, and even if there was, I'm sure you will have qualified with ease and definitely didn't need a last minute goal from your biggest rivals to spare your blushes. PSYCH, ALL THAT STUFF ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN OR IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. If you just count the two games against the All Whites, they qualified at a canter. Didn't even need to use their overseas players or anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Sorry, Collage, I lived in Belgium 9 years, played through their youth ranks at top footballing level. We were as kid already at 8 years old separated where we had A and B teams no matter who our friends were. Football in Belgium was serious from an early age and coaches treated us as adults. I do realize it's a cultural thing as it's the same across the whole Belgian culture, domestic, school or football clubs. It's not like in Sweden where kids can play with their best mates until they're 15-16 and then separated because some want to try and go pro. When did you live there? It's fairly common knowledge that they changed their youth development policies quite drastically (not just when it comes to separating players but many other aspects, like what the training sessions should focus on), think it was in the early 2000's or late 90's. Most Belgian clubs follow these guidelines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 so, er, Cuauhtémoc Blanco is starting for Mexico tonight. Good call, Mexico. It's not like there's a world cup coming up, and even if there was, I'm sure you will have qualified with ease and definitely didn't need a last minute goal from your biggest rivals to spare your blushes. PSYCH, ALL THAT STUFF ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN OR IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. If you just count the two games against the All Whites, they qualified at a canter. Didn't even need to use their overseas players or anything. Vela and the rest are more interested in the poon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Sorry, Collage, I lived in Belgium 9 years, played through their youth ranks at top footballing level. We were as kid already at 8 years old separated where we had A and B teams no matter who our friends were. Football in Belgium was serious from an early age and coaches treated us as adults. I do realize it's a cultural thing as it's the same across the whole Belgian culture, domestic, school or football clubs. It's not like in Sweden where kids can play with their best mates until they're 15-16 and then separated because some want to try and go pro. When did you live there? It's fairly common knowledge that they changed their youth development policies quite drastically (not just when it comes to separating players but many other aspects, like what the training sessions should focus on), think it was in the early 2000's or late 90's. Most Belgian clubs follow these guidelines. Until 4 years ago. They separated players at 'pre-minime' level (u10), at least at the club I played at that competed with clubs such as Tubize and Anderlecht. We are already separated into levels that are national, provincial and local. Some clubs have youth teams in all tiers, some have them in only one or two. What they did change in the system except for asking the teams all over the country to play a similar role tactic, and to not separate players due to their physical ability. Although I'm reading the new drastic changes started getting discussed in 2002, and I stopped in 2005-2006, so maybe like you said the effect were fast and came around the same time I stopped. At the same time Belgium had an excellent team with these methods in the 80s, in the ealry 2000s they had a good team as well with Mpenza brothers, Wilmots etc. So then it would be interesting to analyze the system over all these years. But I do realize I've missed the changes that you talked about When I played 10 years ago though, it wasn't like that. In Brazil we have always had the winning at all costs, and it works. Think the tactic change has done more than the winning and separating at older. But that's for another discussion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It's not fair comparing Sweden, Norway and Belgium with Brazil though. The sheer numbers of youngsters playing football for one thing - small countries can't afford losing talents but have to make sure as many talents as possible make it all the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It's not fair comparing Sweden, Norway and Belgium with Brazil though. The sheer numbers of youngsters playing football for one thing - small countries can't afford losing talents but have to make sure as many talents as possible make it all the way. Absolutely, I'm just saying that there's a reason to why Scandinavian football is decreasing in level over the past years, I do think it has a lot to do with mentality provided by the coaches. I have seen an improvement over the last few years and hope it continues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 so, er, Cuauhtémoc Blanco is starting for Mexico tonight. Good call, Mexico. It's not like there's a world cup coming up, and even if there was, I'm sure you will have qualified with ease and definitely didn't need a last minute goal from your biggest rivals to spare your blushes. PSYCH, ALL THAT STUFF ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN OR IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. He''s still alive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Are they not taking the world cup seriously then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Are they not taking the world cup seriously then? It was basically a glorified testimonial for him. He's not going to Brazil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Are they not taking the world cup seriously then? It was basically a glorified testimonial for him. He's not going to Brazil. Precisely. Seems a bit of a crap use of preparation time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Are they not taking the world cup seriously then? It was basically a glorified testimonial for him. He's not going to Brazil. Precisely. Seems a bit of a crap use of preparation time. Tbf it was just Israel they were playing, and he only went 38 minutes. Still, fuck 'em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 7 goals in ten games against USA, Honduras, Costa Rica, Panama and Jamaica and they give old man blanco a game instead of taking World Cup preparation seriously. Hope they get fucking mullered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Are they not taking the world cup seriously then? It was basically a glorified testimonial for him. He's not going to Brazil. Precisely. Seems a bit of a crap use of preparation time. Tbf it was just Israel they were playing, and he only went 38 minutes. Still, fuck 'em. You could've told me he was starting for them at Brazil and I probably would have believed you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Are they not taking the world cup seriously then? It was basically a glorified testimonial for him. He's not going to Brazil. Precisely. Seems a bit of a crap use of preparation time. Tbf it was just Israel they were playing, and he only went 38 minutes. Still, fuck 'em. You could've told me he was starting for them at Brazil and I probably would have believed you He's their Beasley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Very true. Also think an issue is that we don't separate the better youngsters from the s*** ones at an earlier time. The mentality we have that "everyone needs to play, it's not about winning but having fun" until they're about 16 years old makes the young players play against s*** opponents rather than play with good teammates against better opposition. x100 We're too scared of it, it's pure scandinavian mentality, no one should be better than anyone. It's just ridiculous. "Everyone needs to play" is a disgrace. It's a noble idea but one that countries our size just simply can't afford. Remember being pissed as a kid when the opposition could choose who plays double shifts in our team if we didn't have full lines in hockey. Like it really matters who wins the U-10 match. Apparently it even got worse after my time and even goals weren't counted, everyone just has to play and have fun. After the last WJHC even the big boss of Finnish Hockey admitted that "everybody plays" resulted in many lost generations. Hopefully things are changing now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Very true. Also think an issue is that we don't separate the better youngsters from the s*** ones at an earlier time. The mentality we have that "everyone needs to play, it's not about winning but having fun" until they're about 16 years old makes the young players play against s*** opponents rather than play with good teammates against better opposition. x100 We're too scared of it, it's pure scandinavian mentality, no one should be better than anyone. It's just ridiculous. "Everyone needs to play" is a disgrace. It's a noble idea but one that countries our size just simply can't afford. Remember being p*ssed as a kid when the opposition could choose who plays double shifts in our team if we didn't have full lines in hockey. Like it really matters who wins the U-10 match. Apparently it even got worse after my time and even goals weren't counted, everyone just has to play and have fun. After the last WJHC even the big boss of Finnish Hockey admitted that "everybody plays" resulted in many lost generations. Hopefully things are changing now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I think in England, a little too much focus is on winning at a young age, which as a kid is often down to who is the strongest and fastest. Wenger said kids play too much competitive football here and not enough focus is on time spent training. No left foot. Can't head the ball etc. Same thing with our lower leagues. So many players but the focus is all about winning. I read (maybe here) that in places like Croatia with a population smaller than London, the focus in all leagues is how they play. Ability. Technique. They'll not get much for winning things in Croatia but play well.. you might get a big move abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 I think in England, a little too much focus is on winning at a young age, which as a kid is often down to who is the strongest and fastest. Wenger said kids play too much competitive football here and not enough focus is on time spent training. No left foot. Can't head the ball etc. It really annoys me when really good footballers can't kick the ball on their bad foot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 7 goals in ten games against USA, Honduras, Costa Rica, Panama and Jamaica and they give old man blanco a game instead of taking World Cup preparation seriously. Hope they get fucking mullered. Exactly what I thought after reading that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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