Astroblack Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 There is simply no excuse to openly tout your player to other clubs. No matter what level you, the player or the other club plays at. You should strive to grow and achieve things with your best players rather than being happy to be a stepping stone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 There is simply no excuse to openly tout your player to other clubs. No matter what level you, the player or the other club plays at. You should strive to grow and achieve things with your best players rather than being happy to be a stepping stone. Spot on. If Lukaku wants to move in the summer then fine. Everton name their fee and reinvest it in their squad but they shouldn't tout him about during the season. Very Pardew-esqe. Thought more of Koeman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Lukaku's ability is undoubted, but his inconsistency sometimes and poor attitude makes me think there's more to this than Koeman just openly touting him about for the sake of the money. He's clearly not all that committed to Everton and has openly said he doesn't want to stay before, as he feels he should be playing for a bigger club. Although Everton are significantly bankrolled now, it's going to take a hell of a lot of them to be a side that breaches the top 4 or mounts a challenge to be taken serious, given the teams that are finishing top 4 now appear to be gunning for the title at least until the final 12-8 weeks of the season. I think it makes more sense if you're Koeman if a player wants to leave to laud him with praise in public and let him have a storming season, so he can be bought by a Chelsea/PSG team for £70m+ in the summer (providing he wants to leave), then he can reinvest the money in a player with similar(ish) ability who actually wants to be there. I do see the argument that if Everton want to progress they should keep their best player, but forcing a player like Lukaku to stay against his will, will probably do more harm than good. With his apparent attitude problems it could even turn almost like the Berahino situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Sounds bad but if it gets him more motivated and better performances out of him for the season then you can't really complain much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Can you imagine KK saying that about Cole back in '93? Shocking comments to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Maybe Koeman wants a different type of striker up there, and is trying to facilitate a sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Used this example before, but any different to Sir Bobby's comments when he sold Woodgate? 'It is a huge sum of money and a huge opportunity for him and we could not deny him that opportunity'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Erm, yes because we'd already sold him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Well that's a slight detail if ever I've seen one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Not really like. They're completely different to openly touting your existing player out and saying that he's failed as a player if he stays at Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Erm, yes because we'd already sold him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Brendan Galloway's loan deal cut short by WBA. Remember they beat us to signing him in the Summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Can't believe a recognised full back hasn't been able to break in to a Tony Pulis team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I "nod" and agree Disco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 To be fair that seems like they're using the system correctly. Unlike Sunderland who use it for key players, they use it as a way of filling a few holes in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Don't know why anyone would send a young player to Pulis. Of course he doesn't trust them, especially if they're flash bastards from Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 It's facts though. The same is true of Koeman's managerial career. If Everton is the biggest club he'll ever manage (forgetting Valencia), he would consider it a failure imo. Dyche made a decent comment awhile ago about players motivations. It can be anything, he just needs to know what it is. If it's getting a transfer away to a more prestigious club, he'll support it if they deliver. If it's wages, likewise. If it's praise and an arm around the shoulder etc. I think it's fair. Lukaku - go and score 30 league goals and help us get into the CL and you'll get that Barca move. That's fair. Pardew's brand of help us stay up and you'll get a move to Spurs is unacceptable. Koeman's talking the absolute pinnacle of the game. Pardew was talking anyone in the top 6. So unless you manage a 'top club' then your entire managerial career is a failure? I didn't say that. I reckon Koeman eventually see's himself winning league titles and consistently appearing in the CL as a manager. He could do that with Everton but it is unlikely. He'll most likely need to move to a bigger club to achieve that but he'll have to do a very good job at Everton to be afforded that opportunity. And again - I think it's a motivational play by Koeman as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Don't know why anyone would send a young player to Pulis. Of course he doesn't trust them, especially if they're flash b******s from Arsenal. Aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Didn't full German international, debut hat-trick hero Serge Gnabry start 2 games at WBA last season? At the end of the day, he's no Craig Gardner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Gerrard has left LA Galaxy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Gerrard has left LA Galaxy Gerrard leaving LA, Lampard leaving NYFC, with rumours of Pirlo and Villa leaving as well, not to mention that it's likely Drogba won't play for Montreal again. I wonder if the MLS are over the stage of paying for older players and feel like the league is mature enough to survive without them and build up their own quality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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54 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Harry Kane signs a new deal with Spurs till 2022, wonder if he's still paid less then Sissoko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Sounds like Leicester have agreed to buy Wilfred Ndidi from Genk for £15m. They're hoping he'll be a better Kante replacement than Mendy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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