Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Im sure I read that crowd density at home games has a significant impact on results for the home team. It is possible that lower attendances could negatively affect performance of the team at home, and take us down - in which case TV revenue would no longer take up 50% or whatever it is of overall revenue. I'd take a relegation if it meant that we changed to a sensible, intelligent, football minded owner. If someone wanted us they'd have done it summer 09 when they could have had us for about a third of what it'd cost now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 As much as I have rebuffed the idea of relegation in the past as a means to an end as opposed to my love of NUFC it now feels like if there's no other option and it would ensure a change of ownership I would gladly take a year in the league below and a rebuilding exercise for a new, ambitious owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 As much as I have rebuffed the idea of relegation in the past as a means to an end as opposed to my love of NUFC it now feels like if there's no other option and it would ensure a change of ownership I would gladly take a year in the league below and a rebuilding exercise for a new, ambitious owner. There's no guarantee whatsoever that a) we'd do what we did last time and b) a good owner would come in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 What needs to happen is for everyone in the ground every game to give him dogs abuse, to let him and the whole world know what we think about his ownership and that we want him out. It won't happen though because we have some of the most stupid, spineless easily pleased fans in the game. If this was happening to say Liverpool, Ashley wouldn't last a month. We bend over backwards though and ask to be fucked. Won't do anything imo, if you pay to get into the ground it matters little what you do while you're in there, he's still got your money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I'd take my chances. Relegation's the only way we'll avoid getting hammered off them cunts on a regular basis for a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Id rather be fightinfor the title in a lower league than this wilful watertreading atm tbh. Cups would matter too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Id rather be fightinfor the title in a lower league than this wilful watertreading atm tbh. Cups would matter too. No they wouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 You'd seriously swap this for say, being a modern day Nottingham Forest? It's shit at the moment but some of the hyperbole is a bit odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 You'd seriously swap this for say, being a modern day Nottingham Forest? It's shit at the moment but some of the hyperbole is a bit odd. I'd take relegation and a chance to rebuild under a different owner who gives a shit, if it meant being rid of Ashley, JFK and the fucking retard manager we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 What hyperbole? Two consecutive home spankings off the mackems with many more to come, playing for nothing year on year? Forest try to get promoted every year. That's better than what we've got now. That recent news story about France possibly playing in qualifiers for nothing, whilst everyone else plays to come higher in the group? That's us. I get absolutely nothing out of watching this Newcastle side play for the sole purpose of earning Mike Ashley more and more money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 What hyperbole? Two consecutive home spankings off the mackems with many more to come, playing for nothing year on year? That's exactly what I mean tbh. We should be doing a helluva lot better but the season is more than two derbies man. What about Chelsea, Man Utd, Spurs to name three? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 What about them? The season is indeed about more than any game. It's about trying to come as high as possible and win things. We don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 What about them? The season is indeed about more than any game. It's about trying to come as high as possible and win things. We don't. So how is a relegation going to cure that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Man, what a fucking quagmire. We're seriously discussing the relative merits of relegation and possible change in ownership versus continued premership and ownership by a selfish fucking cunt who's destroying a great club. Sad as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 The original poster said "if it would ensure a change of ownership". And even Ashley would attempt promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 As much as I want rid of Ashley, I don't think I could stomach relegation again. I can totally see the argument though. It's a fucking quagmire indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Look at the recent trend of owners that have come into the Premier League recently, (incidently while in the Championship). Hull, Cardiff...there's no guarantee at all that whoever's next would be better man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I don't see how relegation would make him more likely to leave. I guess possibly he might decide to accept a lower selling price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 The original poster said "if it would ensure a change of ownership". And even Ashley would attempt promotion. Yeah, I fixed my post. Still sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Sorry but the better the devil you know implication is utter bullshit. This is the hallmark of stagnant thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Look at the recent trend of owners that have come into the Premier League recently, (incidently while in the Championship). Hull, Cardiff...there's no guarantee at all that whoever's next would be better man. Ok, we'll stick with what we've got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Look at the recent trend of owners that have come into the Premier League recently, (incidently while in the Championship). Hull, Cardiff...there's no guarantee at all that whoever's next would be better man. Ok, we'll stick with what we've got. Phew, that's a relief. Imagine: It could have gotten worse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Sorry but the better the devil you know implication is utter bullshit. This is the hallmark of stagnant thinking. Well as long as you admit you want change, even though you don't know what it would be. That's a fair enough conclusion, but so is doubt about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Give Shola a new deal too in case we buy someone worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Sorry but the better the devil you know implication is utter bullshit. This is the hallmark of stagnant thinking. Well as long as you admit you want change, even though you don't know what it would be. That's a fair enough conclusion, but so is doubt about it. People staying with their "security" no matter how shit it is rather than taking a chance is the same? With that attitude, we'd still be roving bands of hominids. Civilization would have been still-born. Continue being a jizz-mopper at the local porno booth if you are frightened of the uncertainty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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