Crayola Kid Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 There isn't a single way to figure out the net cost of transfer Crayola - unless there is a Deloitte or similar independent auditor report that gives an average of the transaction costs to doing a deal. Which always be a % of the amount being publicized versus the amount actually recorded on the books. Assume transaction costs = travel, agent fees, player sign-on bonus, etc. For sure, the thing is, we all know there are costs but the 'net figure' posts and websites dedicated to 'net figures' never include them. Elephant in the room. Net figures as they are given are useful to get a picture of what is being spent and in what direction the investment is going but they arent all they are supposed to be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 If you want to use your graphs (that fooled you last season) to convince yourself that that is no longer the approach, that's up to you. I've been pretty consistent in saying Pardew is was and always has been a s*** manager, from the day we brought him in. Some of his "excuses" have been valid and some of the specific criticisms against him weren't valid imo. The fact he's run out of excuses and stopped winning the bare minimum of games to avoid full throated "Pardew Out" at home games has nowt to do with my graphs. People just seem to like the graphs that bash him/Ashley and dislike the ones that show where they've not actually been too bad. Yes, because they enforce something we all put above graphs; our gut. Aye, Like George Bush, people like to go with their gut. Stats matter when they support my argument but they don't matter when it doesn't. If I get a gut feeling I like it if I can look at the stats too, if they support what I felt in my gut then I have evidence, if not then I either need to reconsider or have someone tell me where my stats have misrepresented my view. Wrong to just disregard. Wullie has provided a perfectly reasonable explanation of why sales haven't been as high as previously. Doesn't alter the fact we've been buying too. You'd expect that with the TV deal though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I just don't agree that stats are needed as an indicator, but that they supplement a human or professional response. Stats come in handy to highlight things, definitely and they come in handy when there are fine lines, but when they're stats that fly in the face of the perversely obvious, I don't think there's any point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I just don't agree that stats are needed as an indicator, but that they supplement a human or professional response. Stats come in handy to highlight things, definitely and they come in handy when there are fine lines, but when they're stats that fly in the face of the perversely obvious, I don't think there's any point. It's only obvious if it's your view. Some racists gut feeling would say it's obvious that black people can't swim. It's clear that no olympic champions are black etc. Non racists would say the evidence of statistical analysis says black people are equally capable of swimming but that fewer black people are taught to swim. ...anyway whenever discussion turns to the inherent validity of stats then I bow out. Prefer the discussion around what the stats suggest (or not). No doubt I'll be back with another chart sooner or later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 That's a really poor analogy like. and I would know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Can Mike actually swim btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 :lol: Fucking Neesy, man. The best comedy timing ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 He literally is the master. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 ffs :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I just don't agree that stats are needed as an indicator, but that they supplement a human or professional response. Stats come in handy to highlight things, definitely and they come in handy when there are fine lines, but when they're stats that fly in the face of the perversely obvious, I don't think there's any point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 You can use stats to prove anything. Stats, shmats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 there are lies, damned lies & stats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Stick your head in an oven and your feet in a freezer. On average you'd be comfortable etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 well those pithy zings have convinced me; collecting and organizing data points over time is just a waste of effort and completely useless in all circumstances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 He's done a good job so far and deserves our support until proven otherwise. I like him, seems intelligent and seen a lot go on at this club and I'm sure he's already learned from others experiences. I'm prepared to give him a chance, he's our best bet of a stable and successful club right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 well those pithy zings have convinced me; collecting and organizing data points over time is just a waste of effort and completely useless in all circumstances 4 months ago my avatar was changed to the good Terminator and folk were asking me to produce a list of the worst stats available on Pardew to publicise, because I was looking at how badly he was doing. You can't please all of the people all of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovineblue Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 No point wasting all that time playing matches to collect stats. Should just get an expert to assess the league and determine where all the teams should finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 You are a bald fucking cunt. That is all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 You are a bald f***ing c***. That is all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Just think of the wages saved man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 He's done a good job so far and deserves our support until proven otherwise. I like him, seems intelligent and seen a lot go on at this club and I'm sure he's already learned from others experiences. I'm prepared to give him a chance, he's our best bet of a stable and successful club right now. Might be time to review this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 To think people were giving the fat, specky, baldy cunt credit earlier in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 No surprises here. Arselicker promoted because he'll do exactly what he's told does exactly what he's told to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Tbf he is doing a decent job if he is being told to get rid of Mapou and Hatem and that Pardew is happy with the squad. Completely failed on our one main target this summer which was getting a 15-20 goal striker in. Unforgivable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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