Ste Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I find Anita to be overrated on this site. Good player but there isn't that chasm in quality between him and Colback that people think. Yup. He's better than Colback, but isn't effective and has been a passenger since he came here. Maybe with Cabaye gone and a few options around him well see him come to life. I'm hoping de Jong sparks him. I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 You guys don't know s***. Colback was a canny lad in primary school and that's all we need to know. Ajax academy ffs, can't compare to south heaton comp. George Stephenson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Isn't Colback Ste's mate? Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-vs-man-city-pardew-4063311 Newcastle boss Alan Pardew is so desperate to beat his Manchester City jinx that he’s looking to a Sunderland old boy to act as a lucky charm. Jack Colback made a controversial move to St James’ this summer when he quit the Black Cats as a free agent. The Toon-supporting midfielder figured in three of Sunderland’s four successive 1-0 home wins against City. And Pardew is hoping the 24-year-old Colback can work some magic for the Magpies against the champions tomorrow. City are Newcastle’s first-day opponents for the second season running – 12 months ago, Manuel Pellegrini’s men won 4-0 at the Etihad. Pardew has also lost all eight games against City, who have won their last 10 against Toon in all competitions. But Pardew, reminded of Colback’s winning run with Sunderland over City, quipped: “Thank god for that – it’s why I signed him! “One of our best displays last season was against City, and we were beaten. They’re the type of team who, even if you’re at your very best against them, will still beat you. “But I do think we’re really well set for this game. Hopefully we can get some kind of result against them because our record isn’t great. With Jack in the side, obviously anything can happen!” http://i.imgur.com/lol8Kdh.gif?1 http://i.minus.com/irR2qtMNJ5Xw3.gif http://i.imgur.com/0wivOMd.gif britney's neck is huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Anita is a player that recycles things, knows his pass before he receives it and has a good footballing brain. He's a small but important part in a good midfield. Without other roles being filled it doesn't work. We could have had Sissoko, Cabaye, Anita for ages but never did. I don't rate Colback at all and certainly wouldn't have him ahead of Anita. The fact he's a Cabaye replacement is nothing short of embarrassing and laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I don't rate Colback at all and certainly wouldn't have him ahead of Anita. The fact he's a Cabaye replacement is nothing short of embarrassing and laughable. erm, what? who said colback is cabayes replacement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I don't rate Colback at all and certainly wouldn't have him ahead of Anita. The fact he's a Cabaye replacement is nothing short of embarrassing and laughable. erm, what? who said colback is cabayes replacement? Given Cabaye started in central midfield more often than not and Colback will also start in central midfield it's not a stretch to say he's the Cabaye replacement. Different sort of player sure but replacement all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 People who don't know that we signed de Jong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Holy fucking shit those comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 People who don't know that we signed de Jong. We know full well but he appears to be more of a support striker than a central midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I don't rate Colback at all and certainly wouldn't have him ahead of Anita. The fact he's a Cabaye replacement is nothing short of embarrassing and laughable. erm, what? who said colback is cabayes replacement? Given Cabaye started in central midfield more often than not and Colback will also start in central midfield it's not a stretch to say he's the Cabaye replacement. Different sort of player sure but replacement all the same. I think it's quite the stretch to say that, so I disagree. De Jong is the closest we'll get to yohans replacement. He's captain material, he's smart and he scores goals. Colback is a decent squad player, who isn't known for creating chances and will basically just be used as a tidy central midfielder to keep things ticking over. I thought colback did fine in the pre-season games I watched and will be a good backup player this season. I agree with most that anita should always start ahead of him but like any player, he should be played on merit and not just because he's a local lad, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I don't rate Colback at all and certainly wouldn't have him ahead of Anita. The fact he's a Cabaye replacement is nothing short of embarrassing and laughable. erm, what? who said colback is cabayes replacement? Given Cabaye started in central midfield more often than not and Colback will also start in central midfield it's not a stretch to say he's the Cabaye replacement. Different sort of player sure but replacement all the same. I think it's quite the stretch to say that, so I disagree. De Jong is the closest we'll get to yohans replacement. He's captain material, he's smart and he scores goals. Colback is a decent squad player, who isn't known for creating chances and will basically just be used as a tidy central midfielder to keep things ticking over. I thought colback did fine in the pre-season games I watched and will be a good backup player this season. I agree with most that anita should always start ahead of him but like any player, he should be played on merit and not just because he's a local lad, etc. Colback will be a starter in central midfield where Cabaye started the vast majority of his games for us. I'm not sure where this stretch is to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I don't rate Colback at all and certainly wouldn't have him ahead of Anita. The fact he's a Cabaye replacement is nothing short of embarrassing and laughable. erm, what? who said colback is cabayes replacement? Given Cabaye started in central midfield more often than not and Colback will also start in central midfield it's not a stretch to say he's the Cabaye replacement. Different sort of player sure but replacement all the same. I think it's quite the stretch to say that, so I disagree. De Jong is the closest we'll get to yohans replacement. He's captain material, he's smart and he scores goals. Colback is a decent squad player, who isn't known for creating chances and will basically just be used as a tidy central midfielder to keep things ticking over. I thought colback did fine in the pre-season games I watched and will be a good backup player this season. I agree with most that anita should always start ahead of him but like any player, he should be played on merit and not just because he's a local lad, etc. Colback will be a starter in central midfield where Cabaye started the vast majority of his games for us. I'm not sure where this stretch is to be honest. The stretch I mentioned was that you think colback is cabaye's replacement. We all know what colback's position is, central midfield, that's obvious, but I reckon he won't be a starter for us. As I said earlier, if he does the business for us, then of course he should start but if he starts against man city, it's only due to tiote/de jong being unavailable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I don't rate Colback at all and certainly wouldn't have him ahead of Anita. The fact he's a Cabaye replacement is nothing short of embarrassing and laughable. erm, what? who said colback is cabayes replacement? Given Cabaye started in central midfield more often than not and Colback will also start in central midfield it's not a stretch to say he's the Cabaye replacement. Different sort of player sure but replacement all the same. I think it's quite the stretch to say that, so I disagree. De Jong is the closest we'll get to yohans replacement. He's captain material, he's smart and he scores goals. Colback is a decent squad player, who isn't known for creating chances and will basically just be used as a tidy central midfielder to keep things ticking over. I thought colback did fine in the pre-season games I watched and will be a good backup player this season. I agree with most that anita should always start ahead of him but like any player, he should be played on merit and not just because he's a local lad, etc. Colback will be a starter in central midfield where Cabaye started the vast majority of his games for us. I'm not sure where this stretch is to be honest. The stretch I mentioned was that you think colback is cabaye's replacement. We all know what colback's position is, central midfield, that's obvious, but I reckon he won't be a starter for us. As I said earlier, if he does the business for us, then of course he should start but if he starts against man city, it's only due to tiote/de jong being unavailable. Anyhoo Anita will be dropped Pardew has never fancied him but has played him due to lack of alternatives. Colback is such a Pardew player man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Colback will start ahead of Anita, it's written in fucking stone like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Colback is the first name on the team sheet under Pardew. He started every pre-season game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I agree, I really enjoy watching Anita play and would always prefer him over colback. I just wish we could play anita over 10 games in a row and see how his game improves/changes. He tends to play for a couple of games, then gets left out for a few, then in for a few in a weird position, then out, etc. It must be very frustrating. Would love to see vurnon play with de jong, mainly due to their ajax connection, as vurn could sit back as siem pushed forward. That could work very well, I just hope alan gives it a go....but I won't hold my breath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I find Anita to be overrated on this site. Good player but there isn't that chasm in quality between him and Colback that people think. Anita looks so much less effective in our side, because no one moves or makes themselves available for the pass like he does. He should be starting today alongside Colback, so just watch them both when our defenders have the ball, and are looking to pass forward. His movement in this situations is so good, and once he gets it, he's lookign for the forward short pass quickly, while everyone is just sauntering around making it easy for the people marking them. Colback is particularly guilty of this from what I've seen so far. Anita ideally should be in a midfield three, with people who move well, and look to play quicker shorter passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 People who don't know that we signed de Jong. De Jong who's been played exclusively as a supporting striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Anita is what happens when you buy players based on potential profit margins and age alone. He's been totally unsuited to the way we play since he arrived bar the odd game where he's played in a middle 3. He's a good player but he'll never fulfil what he could be under this management whereas Colback is probably at the peak of his powers, runs about a bit more and is a Pardew signing hence he'll probably get the nod more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 God man replacement's don't have to 100% of cabaye to 100% of a replacement. /neesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Agreed, Anita is certainly unsuited to our typical approach to games unfortunately. The thing is though, Colback so far hasn't seemed that suited either! He has hardly been able to get on the ball, or do anything of note going forward, so either way we're screwed. He definitely was able to far more with and on the ball last season for Sunderland. I think they both absolutely need someone else in there, in and around them to give them more support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 De Jong is very versatile. Think he will play off of the front man, but will still be able to drop deep, and link play far more effectively than a Nolan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Colback is starting today for the same reasons as to why he started games in pre-season. Because we had atleast 1 first team central midfielder out, sometimes 2 when Tiote and De Jong were not match fit or injured. It's the same reason as to why Rivere will start today as has done in pre-season, because Cisse is injured. It's the same reason as to why Obertan got so much game time in pre-season, because Cabella was not match for and for a part of pre-season was on holiday. Can't people atleast wait until we have a fully for squad to determine who the first 11 really is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Colback is starting today for the same reasons as to why he started games in pre-season. Because we had atleast 1 first team central midfielder out, sometimes 2 when Tiote and De Jong were not match fit or injured. It's the same reason as to why Rivere will start today as has done in pre-season, because Cisse is injured. It's the same reason as to why Obertan got so much game time in pre-season, because Cabella was not match for and for a part of pre-season was on holiday. Can't people atleast wait until we have a fully for squad to determine who the first 11 really is? Are we really classing De Jong as an orthodox central midfielder now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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