LRD Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 So many more of them would get bought. I mean look at Hull's attempts to buy Rhodes. They had a £12 million bid rejected, and ended up getting the Uruguayan instead. Which Uruguayan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Actually, I have been looking at some of the Spanish call-ups, particularly at the back, and I don't think they are too far ahead of Jack Colback footballing-wise Mikel San José, really? Can't we do better than him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 It's rotten to the core regardless btw. But Colback encourages the right behaviour. Playing pretty regularly in the PL. I think Rodwell has to pay some dues. Hughes has to play in the PL. Would love for Cleverley to move to La Liga and make something of himself. LOL @ him replacing Rakitic though. How exactly does (the inclusion of) Colback encourage the right behaviour? he's played fairly regularly for two Pl clubs. That's the minimum a England international should be. The bench warmers or players in a lower division should force a move to Hull and prove themselves. He's played for two mid to lower table Premiership clubs (two games in our case so don't understand why two is even relevant in your argument) and hasn't stood out significantly. He's just a decent player for this level. There's literally dozens of players like him in this league. I find it mind blowing that you could see it as an encouraging sign to see such a player picked. I understand the argument of young players moving to big clubs before they have fulfilled their potential and can challenge for first team places, but I fail to see why you believe that this leads to it being preferable to pick average Premiership players ahead of more talented players for the future, regardless of which league they currently play in. dozens like him? Name me a dozen PL CM's under 25 that are English. Even just a dozen English PL CM's is harder than it should be. Honesty, I can't speak on Will Hughes, I've only seen him a handful of times. But he should be in the PL. If he's so far ahead of Colback it's even worse he's not in the division. You know my logic Unbelievable - if a player is so good he should prove it. I'm not on the Henderson bandwagon - he needs to show me he can do it in Europe. I think England are fucked in any case. Colback, a championship Hughes or a 2 game Jack Rodwel is piss poor. Even Rodwell who you've rated so highly hasn't played a full season yet of PL football. He wasn't a regular at Everton if I remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 It's rotten to the core regardless btw. But Colback encourages the right behaviour. Playing pretty regularly in the PL. I think Rodwell has to pay some dues. Hughes has to play in the PL. Would love for Cleverley to move to La Liga and make something of himself. LOL @ him replacing Rakitic though. How exactly does (the inclusion of) Colback encourage the right behaviour? he's played fairly regularly for two Pl clubs. That's the minimum a England international should be. The bench warmers or players in a lower division should force a move to Hull and prove themselves. He's played for two mid to lower table Premiership clubs (two games in our case so don't understand why two is even relevant in your argument) and hasn't stood out significantly. He's just a decent player for this level. There's literally dozens of players like him in this league. I find it mind blowing that you could see it as an encouraging sign to see such a player picked. I understand the argument of young players moving to big clubs before they have fulfilled their potential and can challenge for first team places, but I fail to see why you believe that this leads to it being preferable to pick average Premiership players ahead of more talented players for the future, regardless of which league they currently play in. dozens like him? Name me a dozen PL CM's under 25 that are English. Even just a dozen English PL CM's is harder than it should be. Honesty, I can't speak on Will Hughes, I've only seen him a handful of times. But he should be in the PL. If he's so far ahead of Colback it's even worse he's not in the division. You know my logic Unbelievable - if a player is so good he should prove it. I'm not on the Henderson bandwagon - he needs to show me he can do it in Europe. I think England are f***ed in any case. Colback, a championship Hughes or a 2 game Jack Rodwel is p*ss poor. Even Rodwell who you've rated so highly hasn't played a full season yet of PL football. He wasn't a regular at Everton if I remember. I said dozens like him in the Premiership (in terms of his level of quality), not dozens of PL midfielders of English nationality per se. Still, the likes of Jordon Mutch, Tom Huddlestone, James Ward-Prowse and Jonjo Shelvey are streets ahead of Colback in terms of ability and/or potential and are other examples of players who would have represented better picks imho even adhering to your criteria of having proven themselves at lower to mid table Premier League clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I agree with you on those players - the last 3 at least. I just think England are bang average as is wor Jackie. So on that note it makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 So many more of them would get bought. I mean look at Hull's attempts to buy Rhodes. They had a £12 million bid rejected, and ended up getting the Uruguayan instead. Which Uruguayan? Abel Hernandez. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Abel-Hernandez-Hull-City-transfer-Uruguay-striker/story-22840860-detail/story.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 So many more of them would get bought. I mean look at Hull's attempts to buy Rhodes. They had a £12 million bid rejected, and ended up getting the Uruguayan instead. Which Uruguayan? Luis Suarez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 BANTZ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 If anything this UEFA '8 home grown players' is hindering the national team. Rather than being able to just buy who they want, they pretty much have to buy flavour of the month English players (Sinclair, Rodwell, etc) on daft fees & contracts, or keep those not quite good enough but who might progress at another club (Richards, Cleverley, etc) just to fill their quotas. This is a good point actually. Not sure what can be done about it. It can't be good for a young player's confidence to move to a big club and then be out of the first team picture for a long time. Wright-Phillips was a very promising player but that move to Chelsea seemed to have a long-lasting effect on his development. I don't think Glen Johnson has completely recovered from his Chelsea experience either. It'll be interesting to see how Rodwell gets on now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I agree with you on those players - the last 3 at least. I just think England are bang average as is wor Jackie. So on that note it makes sense. I'll never understand how Colback gets picked ahead of Huddlestone. Absolutely non-sensical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I agree with you on those players - the last 3 at least. I just think England are bang average as is wor Jackie. So on that note it makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 wor Jackie GTFO No fucking way does this become a thing. Instant ban offence imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 wor Jackie GTFO No fucking way does this become a thing. Instant ban offence imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Mackem Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I agree with you on those players - the last 3 at least. I just think England are bang average as is wor Jackie. So on that note it makes sense. Even as a Mackem I find that offensive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 What odds on Colback winning more caps (13) than Milburn I wonder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I agree with you on those players - the last 3 at least. I just think England are bang average as is wor Jackie. So on that note it makes sense. Even as a Mackem I find that offensive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Jack First name basis already It'll be Wor Jack soon. Be prepared. My next prediction - Wor Pards (Not really) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Jack First name basis already It'll be Wor Jack soon. Be prepared. My next prediction - Wor Pards (Not really) Worpards sounds like a sexual disease. Quite fitting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 England ace Colback plays Gayle onside (while on his arse) for the first goal. Quality left back, Pards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 And stands off Puncheon as a right back, and he scores too! Nice one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Beyond shite today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Another Pirlo-esqe preformance IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 He moved the ball about pretty well I thought, but was just a complete disaster defensively. Players just waltzing past him constantly with ease and not pressuring the ball or holding his position throughout the match. I really don't know what happened, tbh. Hope it is a one-off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Ah ic, defend like Pirlo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Absolutely useless today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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