alexthegreat Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 What exactly do we need a squad to compete in? We actively don't want to go far in the cups and we're not in Europe. He's an average player brought in because he's free, young and wants to come here, that's about the long and short of it. If we genuinely wanted a squad to compete we would have splashed out and done it properly years ago, instead of signing a few players on the cheap here and there when they're available. Totally agree with this, we need a squad to survive in the Premier laegue as cheap as possible and have absolutly no shame in telling people this. We are basically safe in the League and one of the only clubs to make money with no real issues about survival or major internal problems but this is the worst period of supporting Newcastle in our history for any true fan. Don't agree with this tbh. The defence is Premier League standard, although there's more than a few holes in it. We can put Colback, Sissoko, Anita, Bigirimana and Tiote in front of it - a solid set of midfielders even if they are bereft of goals and creativity. But if we start the season with the set of players we have to play in front of them at the moment then I cannot see any way we will avoid a relegation battle. This lot are as bad a set of attackers as I have ever seen on our books in the top flight: Ameobi 0 Vuckic 0 Obertan £3.5m BenArfa £5.5m Marveaux 0 Jonas 0? Ferguson 0 Perez £1.5m Gouffran £1.5m Cisse £10m Armstrong 0 Campbell 0 I haven't seen Perez play, but I think a 20 year old from the Spanish second division is unlikely to score 20 goals for us. Gouffran is ok - a premier league player. Ben Arfa is a class above but is fat, in and out of the side, and will be in the last year of his contract. The rest of them may have potential (in some cases) but currently belong in the Championship or lower. I don't really care about Colback - he might be useful he might not. Easily the only thing I'm that bothered about is which forwards come in. Ashley has spent about £21m on centre forwards since he came to the club, a pitiful amount. He has got away without investing with deals like Ba and Remy, but if he doesnt put his hand in his pocket for proven quality up front in the next 12 weeks then I'll be convinced we're going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 We're anything but safe. No improvement on the squad that put in one of the most pathetic half-season performances I've ever seen. We'll be lucky to win any matches with Captain Brillolips in charge, no fit strikers, and Paul Dummett starting matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Obviously Colback by himself will have little impact, but I do expect Ashley to push through the signing of someone like Gomis. While Ashley wants to invest as little time and money towards the club as possible, he does want to stay in the premier, and for that he'll need to buy a half decent striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fan-reaction-newcastle-united-fc-7237531 Jack Colback is a rather good signing. Under the right tutorage, he could develop into something that England currently do not have. 6:26 PM - 9 Jun 2014 I have no words. The fact that c*** is holding one of our shirts makes me want to vomit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 just needs the right tutorage man, leave him be Also, he's 24. He is no youth. The mediocrity he brings now, he will bring for the next 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fan-reaction-newcastle-united-fc-7237531 Jack Colback is a rather good signing. Under the right tutorage, he could develop into something that England currently do not have. 6:26 PM - 9 Jun 2014 I have no words. The fact that c*** is holding one of our shirts makes me want to vomit. He's already something England don't have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 For me, more than anything else not only does he not offer an improvement on anyone we have currently, crucially he really doesn't offer anything different. Can't wait to see what kind of 'fret' a midfield of Anita-Tiote-Colback-Sissoko can conjure up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 On a more positive note...We`re shaping up quite well for a tilt at the Championship play off`s next year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Experienced relegation dog fighter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Experienced relegation dog fighter. Scrappy Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'm sorry to see him go. Was just starting to get forward more under Poyet. Good tackler, good work rate, keeps it simple. As some of you have said if he's coming in as a squad player then he's worth signing. If he's coming in as Cabaye's replacement you're all going to be bitterly disappointed. Cabaye scored and created goals. Jack likes passing sideways and backwards a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'm sorry to see him go. Was just starting to get forward more under Poyet. Good tackler, good work rate, keeps it simple. As some of you have said if he's coming in as a squad player then he's worth signing. If he's coming in as Cabaye's replacement you're all going to be bitterly disappointed. Cabaye scored and created goals. Jack likes passing sideways and backwards a lot. And we already have Tiote and Anita to perform a similar role. Either way I can see Anita back to his bench warming duties of old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'm sorry to see him go. Was just starting to get forward more under Poyet. Good tackler, good work rate, keeps it simple. As some of you have said if he's coming in as a squad player then he's worth signing. If he's coming in as Cabaye's replacement you're all going to be bitterly disappointed. Cabaye scored and created goals. Jack likes passing sideways and backwards a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'm sorry to see him go. Was just starting to get forward more under Poyet. Good tackler, good work rate, keeps it simple. As some of you have said if he's coming in as a squad player then he's worth signing. If he's coming in as Cabaye's replacement you're all going to be bitterly disappointed. Cabaye scored and created goals. Jack likes passing sideways and backwards a lot. Pretty much what I've felt all along. Jenas Mk 11. Ok at everything, outstanding at nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't think you can compare Colback to Jenas. At least Jenas had the potential to be a very good player. Colback doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Pleased for him. make no mistake it's a dream come true for him. He'll be a good signing. I wouldn't want him to be first choice and he won't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Jenas was class when 2-0 up at home and nowhere to be seen when we were up against it in away games. Colback is meant to be far more consistent. Jenas wouldn't be much use in the sort of season I am expecting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 How about they make our dreams come true? It's despicable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 IMO Jenas was a better player as a teenager than he was any other time in his career. As he got older he doubted himself, stopped running forward and started to play defensive. He basically pardewed himself, however always had a good shot on him regardless allowing him to keep amongst the goals and a threat. Once his legs went through injury he didn't get in those positions around the box which meant the goals dried up. A crisp passer of the ball, just became afraid to do anything with it, lost his belief and tried to become a team player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Jenas scored. And was usually looking forward. Far superior player He's not looked forward since the early SBR days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 IMO Jenas was a better player as a teenager than he was any other time in his career. As he got older he doubted himself, stopped running forward and started to play defensive. He basically pardewed himself, however always had a good shot on him regardless allowing him to keep amongst the goals and a threat. Once his legs went through injury he didn't get in those positions around the box which meant the goals dried up. A crisp passer of the ball, just became afraid to do anything with it, lost his belief and tried to become a team player. This! I think he was Sounessed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I went to the same high school as Jack. Really sound lad which is why it mystifies me to see the keyboard warriors come out and call him a cunt when he's anything but. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I went to the same high school as Jack. Really sound lad which is why it mystifies me to see the keyboard warriors come out and call him a cunt when he's anything but. There's a surprise. Aye it's proper mystifying like, I can't think of a single reason that anybody would think that about a "Newcastle fan" who taunted real Newcastle fans on derby day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I went to the same high school as Jack. Really sound lad which is why it mystifies me to see the keyboard warriors come out and call him a cunt when he's anything but. You know I love you Ste but does this not annoy you? http://i.imgur.com/vsg3uNrl.jpg It is bad enough on the pitch but I can sort of understand it but off the pitch? He was hardly some vulnerable kid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I went to the same high school as Jack. Really sound lad which is why it mystifies me to see the keyboard warriors come out and call him a cunt when he's anything but. Somebody once went to high school with Adolf Hitler, too, and must've thought he was a sound lad. /falseequivalencies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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