Hughesy Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Not the best example perhaps, but compare Elliot to someone like David James and the difference is laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 You'd still want your keeper to be in good shape. Elliot is in awful shape for a pro footballer. I can't see a future here for HBA even if he does lose the weight and gets himself in shape. He just doesn't fit in with Pardew's idealistic view of a Premiership team that keeps clean sheets regularly and views goals as something to defend, no matter what time of the match. Pardews ruined Gouffran's natural game and dropped HBA because he won't play residual right back, I fear for Cabella unless he has the stamina of a horse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 You'd still want your keeper to be in good shape. Elliot is in awful shape for a pro footballer. I can't see a future here for HBA even if he does lose the weight and gets himself in shape. He just doesn't fit in with Pardew's idealistic view of a Premiership team that keeps clean sheets regularly and views goals as something to defend, no matter what time of the match. Pardews ruined Gouffran's natural game and dropped HBA because he won't play residual right back, I fear for Cabella unless he has the stamina of a horse. Pardew doesn't seem to realise that if you let your winger be a winger, then the opposition then have to worry about dropping their man in midfield back for cover. But we plan that way from the start of most games. It's frustrating. It's totally brain dead management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Are there any pictures around of Elliot looking in awful shape? Can't say I've really ever paid attention to him but he always just looked in normal shape to me. Not that it takes anything away from him being a slimy fucker, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 So many armchair strength and conditioning coaches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 So many armchair strength and conditioning coaches A load of porky unfit pillocks (including me) telling Hatem he's unfit and know exactly why and exactly what he's thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Not wearing official Wonga gear, fined 2 weeks wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 So many armchair strength and conditioning coaches Plenty armchair Peter Taylor's too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Wish I could attend these random games just to show support for HBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 You'd still want your keeper to be in good shape. Elliot is in awful shape for a pro footballer. The way Elliot dived (belly flop more like) yesterday and at the end of last season, he would have been expected to get rid of his excess baggage and get into better shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Fair play to hba mind you, whatever is going on he's keeping his mouth shut and not publicly rocking any boats. Just hope he see's off the king, signs a new contract and we see the best of him with cabella etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Funny how Nolan's weight issues were never a problem. Yep - I would say that Nolan was a fair bit more overweight than HBA. I'd also say that Nolan's weight issues were often discussed and criticised on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Are there any pictures around of Elliot looking in awful shape? Can't say I've really ever paid attention to him but he always just looked in normal shape to me. Not that it takes anything away from him being a slimy fucker, though. Petre Shilton always looked tubby and it didn't stop him being a good keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Funny how Nolan's weight issues were never a problem. Yep - I would say that Nolan was a fair bit more overweight than HBA. I'd also say that Nolan's weight issues were often discussed and criticised on here. They were, like all of the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Are there any pictures around of Elliot looking in awful shape? Can't say I've really ever paid attention to him but he always just looked in normal shape to me. Not that it takes anything away from him being a slimy fucker, though. Petre Shilton always looked tubby and it didn't stop him being a good keeper. Elliott has a hell of a way to go to beat off Neville Southall to the fat keeper crown. Not even sure he's less dainty than a Mike Hooper to be fair to the lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Are there any pictures around of Elliot looking in awful shape? Can't say I've really ever paid attention to him but he always just looked in normal shape to me. Not that it takes anything away from him being a slimy fucker, though. Petre Shilton always looked tubby and it didn't stop him being a good keeper. Southall too Edit: Bugger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Are there any pictures around of Elliot looking in awful shape? Can't say I've really ever paid attention to him but he always just looked in normal shape to me. Not that it takes anything away from him being a slimy fucker, though. Petre Shilton always looked tubby and it didn't stop him being a good keeper. Southall too Edit: Bugger http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1374954608_CowboyFastDraw_Howard2.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Funny how Nolan's weight issues were never a problem. Yep - I would say that Nolan was a fair bit more overweight than HBA. I'd also say that Nolan's weight issues were often discussed and criticised on here. That's not my point - my point is whether Nolan was fined by the club for it and it was used as a reason not to pick him. The answer to that is that it wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Looking at him, he deserves to be dropped. http://i.cubeupload.com/wlansh.jpg :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Funny how Nolan's weight issues were never a problem. Yep - I would say that Nolan was a fair bit more overweight than HBA. I'd also say that Nolan's weight issues were often discussed and criticised on here. That's not my point - my point is whether Nolan was fined by the club for it and it was used as a reason not to pick him. The answer to that is that it wasn't. That was my point as well. It never seemed to be an issue with the club although the fans regularly discussed it (as do West Ham fans). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Looked trim as fuck last season I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Funny how Nolan's weight issues were never a problem. Yep - I would say that Nolan was a fair bit more overweight than HBA. I'd also say that Nolan's weight issues were often discussed and criticised on here. That's not my point - my point is whether Nolan was fined by the club for it and it was used as a reason not to pick him. The answer to that is that it wasn't. That was my point as well. It never seemed to be an issue with the club although the fans regularly discussed it (as do West Ham fans). Nolan, as much as I was never much of a fan, has a much bigger frame naturally than Hatem. He was captain, leading goalscorer for most of his time here and basically ran the first team prior to Pardew coming in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Funny how Nolan's weight issues were never a problem. Yep - I would say that Nolan was a fair bit more overweight than HBA. I'd also say that Nolan's weight issues were often discussed and criticised on here. That's not my point - my point is whether Nolan was fined by the club for it and it was used as a reason not to pick him. The answer to that is that it wasn't. That was my point as well. It never seemed to be an issue with the club although the fans regularly discussed it (as do West Ham fans). Nolan, as much as I was never much of a fan, has a much bigger frame naturally than Hatem. He was captain, leading goalscorer for most of his time here and basically ran the first team prior to Pardew coming in. And? The point was always another and everyone got it except you...but I know, you like to be different! :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Funny how Nolan's weight issues were never a problem. Yep - I would say that Nolan was a fair bit more overweight than HBA. I'd also say that Nolan's weight issues were often discussed and criticised on here. That's not my point - my point is whether Nolan was fined by the club for it and it was used as a reason not to pick him. The answer to that is that it wasn't. That was my point as well. It never seemed to be an issue with the club although the fans regularly discussed it (as do West Ham fans). Nolan, as much as I was never much of a fan, has a much bigger frame naturally than Hatem. He was captain, leading goalscorer for most of his time here and basically ran the first team prior to Pardew coming in. I bet you that their body fat levels were very similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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