Hatem Ben Arfa (now retired?)

[Kanj]

Back to France...or Spain / Italy for HBA.

[Hughesy]

I don't really get how the fact that HBA hasn't done that well at Hull is somehow relevant to his time here or whether it was the right decision to get rid of him.  We know how good he was and the direct effect he had in terms of goals and assists, how useful he would be to have in the squad now and how exaggerated his lack of work rate actually was.

[Guest Alyosha]

Nobody in the Hull team is playing well.

[Dave]

I don't really get how the fact that HBA hasn't done that well at Hull is somehow relevant to his time here or whether it was the right decision to get rid of him.  We know how good he was and the direct effect he had in terms of goals and assists, how useful he would be to have in the squad now and how exaggerated his lack of work rate actually was.

 

See also Robert, Laurent.

[tgarve]

Ok ok that was immature but it also is when people blindly ignore weaknesses!

 

You know you can only use the 'I was mortal when I posted that' excuse once, right?

 

Very true though this was the case again!

[Guest]

Robert was 30 tbf and was naturally going to start declining whether he stayed he or not. Ben Arfa should be in his prime now. Needs a good move in the summer.

[tgarve]

Robert was 30 tbf and was naturally going to start declining whether he stayed he or not. Ben Arfa should be in his prime now. Needs a good move in the summer.

 

The main thing is he needs a manager who trusts him

[Ronaldo]

His career's just going to peter out now, sadly. Not sure he'll care too much.

[sempuki]

Really sad this. Needs to get away from England ASAP.

[Ronaldo]

The reason he ended up here in the first place was because nobody else really wanted him. He was a better player then, too.

[Dinho lad]

HBA loves being a big fish in a small pond. It's a contributing factor as to why he joined us. (And Hull.)

 

He doesn't care that much about his career, he nearly left it all behind to join some Muslim nutheads.

[Elliottman]

Sound familiar?....

 

Pretty ****e, he's pretty much solely been used in a 5-4-1 playing just in front of the midfield 3 with absolutely no support, no one to work with and left to do everything on his own. Showed brief glimpses of what he's capable of but as he's often the only player even halfway up the pitch, he's shut out by an entire defence before he gets very far.

 

Looked absolutely explosive, if extremely rusty, playing centrally in a 4-5-1 on his debut against WBA in the cup but ever since he's been a victim to an ultra defensive system which really just hasn't let him play at all.

 

You can see he has quality (at RARE times) it's just a shame our manager refuses to play too his strengths. He's being played in behind the main striker in a supporting role, with NO ONE else around him!! Our managers tactics are so negative its ridiculous.

 

Ben Arfa is a class player, but you need to set up your team around him.

 

It doesn't look like we are going to do that.

 

So if it's just an everyday attacking midfielder we want there are much better options.

 

he has had brief moments of quality - but being generous to him he has been playing with a team with their heads caught in the headlights . A type of football we wasnt playing when he was getting up to match sharpness :/

 

defo can't put all the blame on him

 

As the OP suggests, he's a lot better cutting in off the right and his best game was probably against Tottenham where he played on the right of a 4-2-3-1 and we attacked them for 45 minutes. He should have out us 2 up but missed a sitter mind.

 

However, Bruce does have a thing about playing wingers as strikers and that combined with our recent tactic of 'everyone back at all times' thwarts not just Ben Arfa but all of our attacking players.

 

 

[Wullie]

They need to get rid of that potato headed fool.

[DJ_NUFC]

HBA loves being a big fish in a small pond. It's a contributing factor as to why he joined us. (And Hull.)

 

He doesn't care that much about his career, he nearly left it all behind to join some Muslim nutheads.

 

Fell out with ISIS as well, then? What a guy.

[mrmojorisin75]

Sound familiar?....

 

Pretty ****e, he's pretty much solely been used in a 5-4-1 playing just in front of the midfield 3 with absolutely no support, no one to work with and left to do everything on his own. Showed brief glimpses of what he's capable of but as he's often the only player even halfway up the pitch, he's shut out by an entire defence before he gets very far.

 

Looked absolutely explosive, if extremely rusty, playing centrally in a 4-5-1 on his debut against WBA in the cup but ever since he's been a victim to an ultra defensive system which really just hasn't let him play at all.

 

You can see he has quality (at RARE times) it's just a shame our manager refuses to play too his strengths. He's being played in behind the main striker in a supporting role, with NO ONE else around him!! Our managers tactics are so negative its ridiculous.

 

Ben Arfa is a class player, but you need to set up your team around him.

 

It doesn't look like we are going to do that.

 

So if it's just an everyday attacking midfielder we want there are much better options.

 

he has had brief moments of quality - but being generous to him he has been playing with a team with their heads caught in the headlights . A type of football we wasnt playing when he was getting up to match sharpness :/

 

defo can't put all the blame on him

 

As the OP suggests, he's a lot better cutting in off the right and his best game was probably against Tottenham where he played on the right of a 4-2-3-1 and we attacked them for 45 minutes. He should have out us 2 up but missed a sitter mind.

 

However, Bruce does have a thing about playing wingers as strikers and that combined with our recent tactic of 'everyone back at all times' thwarts not just Ben Arfa but all of our attacking players.

 

 

 

  hard to believe he's jumped from pardew to that man, he must surely have had better fucking options out of england

[KaKa]

Sound familiar?....

 

Pretty ****e, he's pretty much solely been used in a 5-4-1 playing just in front of the midfield 3 with absolutely no support, no one to work with and left to do everything on his own. Showed brief glimpses of what he's capable of but as he's often the only player even halfway up the pitch, he's shut out by an entire defence before he gets very far.

 

Looked absolutely explosive, if extremely rusty, playing centrally in a 4-5-1 on his debut against WBA in the cup but ever since he's been a victim to an ultra defensive system which really just hasn't let him play at all.

 

You can see he has quality (at RARE times) it's just a shame our manager refuses to play too his strengths. He's being played in behind the main striker in a supporting role, with NO ONE else around him!! Our managers tactics are so negative its ridiculous.

 

Ben Arfa is a class player, but you need to set up your team around him.

 

It doesn't look like we are going to do that.

 

So if it's just an everyday attacking midfielder we want there are much better options.

 

he has had brief moments of quality - but being generous to him he has been playing with a team with their heads caught in the headlights . A type of football we wasnt playing when he was getting up to match sharpness :/

 

defo can't put all the blame on him

 

As the OP suggests, he's a lot better cutting in off the right and his best game was probably against Tottenham where he played on the right of a 4-2-3-1 and we attacked them for 45 minutes. He should have out us 2 up but missed a sitter mind.

 

However, Bruce does have a thing about playing wingers as strikers and that combined with our recent tactic of 'everyone back at all times' thwarts not just Ben Arfa but all of our attacking players.

 

 

 

What a disgusting read 

 

So unfortunate for the guy.

[Ronaldo]

You absolutely cannot play him in a central role, like. He's completely ineffective there. Stupid.

[Cookie1892]

i think its evident that the kid is a lazy t***

 

i wouldnt build my team around him if it meant positionally sacrificing players like sissoko who offer far more on the pitch.

 

6/7 weeks ago we were all calling pardew on this and quite frankly he could turn round and say "i told you so" to a lot of us, me included

 

we dont miss him (except that we are short on numbers in current situation) and i dont want him back if he cant be arsed

 

[Ronaldo]

Aye. 'I told you so' when Gouffran is starting games.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Bit racist, ignorant and doesn't like Ben Arfa, surprising.

[KaKa]

When will someone just play this guy on the right, and let him terrorize defences to his heart's desire.

[Hanshithispantz]

i think its evident that the kid is a lazy t***

 

i wouldnt build my team around him if it meant positionally sacrificing players like sissoko who offer far more on the pitch.

 

6/7 weeks ago we were all calling pardew on this and quite frankly he could turn round and say "i told you so" to a lot of us, me included

 

we dont miss him (except that we are short on numbers in current situation) and i dont want him back if he cant be arsed

 

The state of this, man.

[Hughesy]

i think its evident that the kid is a lazy t***

 

i wouldnt build my team around him if it meant positionally sacrificing players like sissoko who offer far more on the pitch.

 

6/7 weeks ago we were all calling pardew on this and quite frankly he could turn round and say "i told you so" to a lot of us, me included

 

we dont miss him (except that we are short on numbers in current situation) and i dont want him back if he cant be arsed

 

 

So much wrong in one post.

[Wullie]

'I told you I could win a few games 1-0 and bore the arse off everyone'

 

Cheers Alan, I already knew that.

[oldtype]

Guy's had a lot of bad luck with shit managers but at the end of the day it's his own fault that he's underachieved massively despite having as much natural talent as any footballer in the past fifteen years.