HawK Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 How hard would it be to design shirts in a way that shows a certain design when a group of people wearing these shirts are sitting together? Might be one way to circumvent the stadium bans on banners. Design it on MS Paint in a grid of 10x10, then go find 100 people to wear said colour t-shirts in that 10x10 grid in stadium. tldr; bloody hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Chant Hatem Ben Arfa continuously on the 10th and 26th minute - then for the rest of the match. Better than a banner surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavo Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 great video, such a talent. why wouldn't you want that in your team ffs :idiot2: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 God, that makes for depressing viewing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 sigh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Its like winning £100million on the lottery and then gambling it away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 That's a great video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Just a thought. It doesn't have him terrorising Enrique. Probably the only thing missing that I can think of. He was outstanding that day and it was one of the more enjoyable days in recent years. Having the debate on HBA on another forum is like pulling teeth. So many just point to the clichéd bollocks about work rate, luxury player, inconsistent, lazy, his previous with managers. Oh and that he should apologise to Pardew in the hope it will somehow all blow over and he'll get back in the team. :anguish: Fuck off and watch Gateshead or Berwick if you want to watch a bunch of cloggers who like to get STUCK IN and TRACK BACK. But don't have an ounce of skill or flair. No offence intended to the clubs mentioned This saga is one of many reasons I have fallen out of love with NUFC of late. But arguably the main one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I never get the workrate argument anyway - I don't actually think HBA is even that lazy or defensively neglectful. It is just a lazy argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Just a thought. It doesn't have him terrorising Enrique. Probably the only thing missing that I can think of. He was outstanding that day and it was one of the more enjoyable days in recent years. Having the debate on HBA on another forum is like pulling teeth. So many just point to the clichéd bollocks about work rate, luxury player, inconsistent, lazy, his previous with managers. Oh and that he should apologise to Pardew in the hope it will somehow all blow over and he'll get back in the team. :anguish: f*** off and watch Gateshead or Berwick if you want to watch a bunch of cloggers who like to get STUCK IN and TRACK BACK. But don't have an ounce of skill or flair. No offence intended to the clubs mentioned This saga is one of many reasons I have fallen out of love with NUFC of late. But arguably the main one. I reckon the Heed move the ball around better than us Completely agree with what you're saying though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 From what little I saw of Gateshead last season (their playoffs) they looked miles better than us tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I take it all back. I am sorry Gateshead! Go and watch Seaham Red Star instead! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Wonderful video that, Sewelly, great work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I take it all back. I am sorry Gateshead! Go and watch Seaham Red Star instead! Sadly I think you'll find if you want to watch a north east side with no plan but RUN FASTER, KICK IT LONGER, GET STUCK IN then NUFC is your best bet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I never get the workrate argument anyway - I don't actually think HBA is even that lazy or defensively neglectful. It is just a lazy argument. he's awful defensively imho, even during that period when he was doing what pardew wanted he did little more than stand in front of the guy with the ball...can barely remember him ever making a tackle but during that period he did get back in position well enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 We don't play him for his defensive contribution though. Well, we do, but we shouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I take it all back. I am sorry Gateshead! Go and watch Seaham Red Star instead! Hebburn battered them 4-0 last night! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Anyone struggling with a defensive contribution argument should just point them to one of our greatest ever managers, Kevin Keegan, and how he handled Ginola. The difference with Keegan is that when players complained (Rob Lee) about Ginola's work rate, Keegan took him to one side and told him that yes he wouldn't track back, he's not going to do much when we don't have the ball, but when he does, he could win us the league. With Pardew, as he's spineless, he bends to the whims of the players and won't protect or use the talent at his disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 There's a healthy middle ground between Keegan & Pardew when it comes to work rate from attacking wide players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 How much did Laurent Robert track back? Under a great manager, Sir Bobby Robson, he was one of the most unpredictable, effective left wingers we've ever had, I rate him higher than Ginola personally. Under a crap manager, Souness, he couldn't even get in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I blame them both to be honest. Deeply gutted he isnt playing, but if all it requires is for him to be fit, and work for the team, why isnt he doing it?not trying to be a WUM, but honest question (devils advocate) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I blame them both to be honest. Deeply gutted he isnt playing, but if all it requires is for him to be fit, and work for the team, why isnt he doing it?not trying to be a WUM, but honest question (devils advocate) Because that's not all it takes as evidenced by Marveaux who was in shape BUT was cast aside The problem is Ben Arfa plays a style of football Pardew is not comfortable or capable of playing, it requires Pardew to change his philosophy/attitude not Ben Arfa Credit to Ben Arfa he even played as a secondary right back BUT he was still kicked out of the team and in a way blamed for our awful defending, which was just a way for Pardew to mask his own clear coaching inadequacies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I never get the workrate argument anyway - I don't actually think HBA is even that lazy or defensively neglectful. It is just a lazy argument. he's awful defensively imho, even during that period when he was doing what pardew wanted he did little more than stand in front of the guy with the ball...can barely remember him ever making a tackle but during that period he did get back in position well enough I'd agree that from a tactical and technical point of view, he isn't a good defender, but I think he does pressurise people and puts the effort in to track back. To be honest, I can't think of many wingers who are good tacklers of the ball, so in my view it isn't really relevant. As long as he is putting in the effort to be a nuisance and close people down, Pardew shouldn't have any complaints at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I don't want my wingers or flare players tackling to be honest. As you say applying pressure and generally being busy when we don't have the ball is a different kettle of fish imo. Just one of the utter lame excuses tht poor managers will make when they can't handle a talent or 'maverick' or imbed him into a team. I'm not the lads biggest fan tbh, certainly wouldn't use the words 'legend' or 'great' about him. In fairness we haven't seen enough of him to compare him with a Robert, Ginola or Waddle lets say, but it's as clear as the nose on Phil Thomsons face that the lad has buckets of natural ability and class. He's maybe the only one we have capable of that moment of genius that can win games from nothing. The fact that the utter cretin we have in charge has treat ,and is treating him this way says far more about him than it ever will about HBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think one attacking player in a team is just about allowable. I've thought about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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