AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I try to forget what he's capable of, softens the blow a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 People were saying Liverpool would be in for him. It is clear that Ben Arfa has been told he has no future at NUFC and he has been told to find another club. It wouldn't be that difficult for a side who want Ben Arfa to get him (that isn't taking Ben Arfa's wage demands and choice of club/league into account). Ben Arfa has fallen out with every manager he has ever played for. That must be off putting to other clubs. It's obvious Pardew/NUFC want Ben Arfa out. As Pardew isn't going anywhere it is in the interest of all parties for Ben Arfa to move on. He is in the last year of his NUFC contract after all. It will be interesting to see where he ends up. It wouldn't do him any good staying at NUFC and not playing for a season. I'd rather he left (along with Jonas, Obertan and the like) to be replaced by players Pardew will play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 na rather he stayed tried to get into better shape, then when we are in the relegation zone after a month and the king gets the chop he might get a look in. I think this is his plan but I cant understand why he didn't hire a personal trainer and come back in top shape for the pre season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I try to forget what he's capable of, softens the blow a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I try to forget what he's capable of, softens the blow a bit. thomas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Seeing as Marv came back at the right weight and was immediately told to train with the kids, i think Hatem's weight was just bullshit anyways. Pardew has no intention of involving Hatem whatever Hatem did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Seeing as Marv came back at the right weight and was immediately told to train with the kids, i think Hatem's weight was just bullshit anyways. Pardew has no intention of involving Hatem whatever Hatem did. Negative stories leaked to press to undermine popular player they want rid of - fans believe it - player sold and hated - guess who wins again? etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Seeing as Marv came back at the right weight and was immediately told to train with the kids, i think Hatem's weight was just bullshit anyways. Pardew has no intention of involving Hatem whatever Hatem did. It's just a convenient excuse. We were all saying at the end of last season that we'd seen the end of Ben Arfa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Both of you are spot on, still baffled by how many fall for it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Seeing as Marv came back at the right weight and was immediately told to train with the kids, i think Hatem's weight was just bullshit anyways. Pardew has no intention of involving Hatem whatever Hatem did. agreed that he will never play Ben Arfa again he wouldn't when the squad was in tatters last season rather play Gosling so got no chance now but its annoying that he's gave them that excuse with his weight instead of turning up in top shape and Pardew having to say I wont play him because I am an arrogant pig-headed piece of shite that holds a grudge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 He's an idiot for coming back overweight. He's been badly mishandled but there's no good reason for coming back from holiday overweight. If he had an ounce of sense about him he'd have done what Marveaux did and come back in top condition and they wouldn't have had anything to throw at him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I'm sure Ben Arfa did return overweight. Why lie about it when NUFC/Pardew want Ben Arfa gone anyway? He could have come back fighting fit and they'd still want him gone. I'd rather he left and was replaced. He isn't going to play and he won't be getting a new contract. Either way he'll be gone in a year at the latest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 He's an idiot for coming back overweight. He's been badly mishandled but there's no good reason for coming back from holiday overweight. If he had an ounce of sense about him he'd have done what Marveaux did and come back in top condition and they wouldn't have had anything to throw at him. I don't believe he did come back overweight, i have chosen to not to believe the regular bullshitting cunts who want players out and would do and say anything to make that happen. Marv did come back in good shape and got exactly the same treatment as Hatem got anyway. It's spiteful treatment toward Hatem and especially Marv from a manager who freezes nobody out. I don't believe the club, simple as that for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I'm sure the club could put out a lot of true stories about Ben Arfa if they wanted to. For example, they've never officially commented on the story from last season when Colo and the like weren't happy that Ben Arfa got back into the team. They didn't comment on the dressing room bust up. The fact is, for whatever reason Ben Arfa is finished at NUFC. I'd think less of him if he decided to waste a year of his playing career sitting out the last year of his contract. I definitely don't think Ben Arfa is blameless. He has fallen out with every manager he has ever played for. Ironically Pardew probably got more out of Ben Arfa that his previous managers did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I try to forget what he's capable of, softens the blow a bit. thomas? no, but he may have the other half of this amulet... Pardew is an unprofessional fuckwit. Feel bad for Hatem in all this. He may not be guiltless either but this is shoddy treatment by a petty organization. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I'm sure the club could put out a lot of true stories about Ben Arfa if they wanted to. For example, they've never officially commented on the story from last season when Colo and the like weren't happy that Ben Arfa got back into the team. They didn't comment on the dressing room bust up. The fact is, for whatever reason Ben Arfa is finished at NUFC. I'd think less of him if he decided to waste a year of his playing career sitting out the last year of his contract. I definitely don't think Ben Arfa is blameless. He has fallen out with every manager he has ever played for. Ironically Pardew probably got more out of Ben Arfa that his previous managers did. Who do you think leaked it though ? For me i have chosen not to believe a club that has lied to us over and over again about countless things. And when you read (if you believe it of course) that Hatem turned down a new contract on less money and since then the club and Pardew have treated him appallingly. They want him sold as he's in the last year of his contract. I believe that, not the bullshitting cunts who run, own and manage us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I will add i don't think Hatem is completely blameless, he's proven in the past he has a problem with managers. Now as much as i hate Pardew, you still have to do what he wants you to do as he is in charge. But i suppose the line for Hatem was crossed when Pardew starting blaming him for losses that simply weren't Hatem's fault. That when the manager's tactics, team selections and poor coaching were cowardly blamed on Hatem, Marv and MYM and the younger players. It's never Pardew's fault remember. Even then Hatem should have bit his lip, by not doing so he has played right into Pardew's hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The Club admitted to the Tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The Club admitted to the Tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United. And that's only the stuff they got caught doing, since then they've lied over and over and got away with it. From Llambias over what we've spent and Pardew on just about anything he says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The Club admitted to the Tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United. And that's only the stuff they got caught doing, since then they've lied over and over and got away with it. From Llambias over what we've spent and Pardew on just about anything he says. Indeed. 3 months ago the fans forum reiterated our desire to finish midtable. Fast forward to now and Alan is talking about champions league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 The Club admitted to the Tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United. And that's only the stuff they got caught doing, since then they've lied over and over and got away with it. From Llambias over what we've spent and Pardew on just about anything he says. Indeed. 3 months ago the fans forum reiterated our desire to finish midtable. Fast forward to now and Alan is talking about champions league Quite, they see season tickets down, they spend the money we recoup from sales and bang....bullshit spews forth. Now watch as when as i suspect we sit mid table around christmas, Pardew will go on about not being able to compete etc. Rinse and repeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I find it strange that nobody has been linked with Barfa even on loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I find it strange that nobody has been linked with Barfa even on loan I don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I find it strange that nobody has been linked with Barfa even on loan I don't. You wouldn't though, you lap up every bit of shit the club peddles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Seeing as Marv came back at the right weight and was immediately told to train with the kids, i think Hatem's weight was just bullshit anyways. Pardew has no intention of involving Hatem whatever Hatem did. agreed that he will never play Ben Arfa again he wouldn't when the squad was in tatters last season rather play Gosling so got no chance now but its annoying that he's gave them that excuse with his weight instead of turning up in top shape and Pardew having to say I wont play him because I am an arrogant pig-headed piece of shite that holds a grudge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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