Ikon Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Like King Joffrey the fucking cunt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Funny how Nolan's weight issues were never a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Elliot is overweight imo. without a shadow of a doubt. This is the worst bit for me, the hypocrisy of Pardew with one of his hoop lickers, The Blob, carrying far too much timber being allowed a free pass. If HBA took it to tribunal there's surely a case for descrimination there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Does a keeper really need to be as slim as a pacey, tricky winger though? Not that I'm defending Pardew or the club but perhaps there are different weight requirements for certain positions. Doesn't really matter because HBA clearly isn't overweight anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Elliot's BMI will be close to the obese range, won't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Does a keeper really need to be as slim as a pacey, tricky winger though? Not that I'm defending Pardew or the club but perhaps there are different weight requirements for certain positions. Doesn't really matter because HBA clearly isn't overweight anyway. A keeper needs to be nimble, quick on his feet and able to get low, fast. So maybe not AS strict however still needs to be in shape and by shape I don't mean round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Do players not have a measurement set and a set weight they can't go above? I am sure players are told before they go off for preseason that they have to stick under a certain weight etc for when they return, something that the physio's/dietitian/medics will all be involved in. I can't see it just being Pardew having a look at him and saying (you look fat, I'm fining you, you tubby b******). He probably did turn up over his allocated weight limit. Judging by the photo though, he seems to be in good shape now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Funny how Nolan's weight issues were never a problem. Yep - I would say that Nolan was a fair bit more overweight than HBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Do players not have a measurement set and a set weight they can't go above? I am sure players are told before they go off for preseason that they have to stick under a certain weight etc for when they return, something that the physio's/dietitian/medics will all be involved in. I can't see it just being Pardew having a look at him and saying (you look fat, I'm fining you, you tubby b******). He probably did turn up over his allocated weight limit. Judging by the photo though, he seems to be in good shape now. Exactly. It will have been a scientific weight test of his fat and muscle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 You'd still want your keeper to be in good shape. Elliot is in awful shape for a pro footballer. I can't see a future here for HBA even if he does lose the weight and gets himself in shape. He just doesn't fit in with Pardew's idealistic view of a Premiership team that keeps clean sheets regularly and views goals as something to defend, no matter what time of the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Not the best example perhaps, but compare Elliot to someone like David James and the difference is laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 You'd still want your keeper to be in good shape. Elliot is in awful shape for a pro footballer. I can't see a future here for HBA even if he does lose the weight and gets himself in shape. He just doesn't fit in with Pardew's idealistic view of a Premiership team that keeps clean sheets regularly and views goals as something to defend, no matter what time of the match. Pardews ruined Gouffran's natural game and dropped HBA because he won't play residual right back, I fear for Cabella unless he has the stamina of a horse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 You'd still want your keeper to be in good shape. Elliot is in awful shape for a pro footballer. I can't see a future here for HBA even if he does lose the weight and gets himself in shape. He just doesn't fit in with Pardew's idealistic view of a Premiership team that keeps clean sheets regularly and views goals as something to defend, no matter what time of the match. Pardews ruined Gouffran's natural game and dropped HBA because he won't play residual right back, I fear for Cabella unless he has the stamina of a horse. Pardew doesn't seem to realise that if you let your winger be a winger, then the opposition then have to worry about dropping their man in midfield back for cover. But we plan that way from the start of most games. It's frustrating. It's totally brain dead management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Are there any pictures around of Elliot looking in awful shape? Can't say I've really ever paid attention to him but he always just looked in normal shape to me. Not that it takes anything away from him being a slimy fucker, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 So many armchair strength and conditioning coaches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 So many armchair strength and conditioning coaches A load of porky unfit pillocks (including me) telling Hatem he's unfit and know exactly why and exactly what he's thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Not wearing official Wonga gear, fined 2 weeks wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 So many armchair strength and conditioning coaches Plenty armchair Peter Taylor's too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Wish I could attend these random games just to show support for HBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 You'd still want your keeper to be in good shape. Elliot is in awful shape for a pro footballer. The way Elliot dived (belly flop more like) yesterday and at the end of last season, he would have been expected to get rid of his excess baggage and get into better shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Fair play to hba mind you, whatever is going on he's keeping his mouth shut and not publicly rocking any boats. Just hope he see's off the king, signs a new contract and we see the best of him with cabella etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Funny how Nolan's weight issues were never a problem. Yep - I would say that Nolan was a fair bit more overweight than HBA. I'd also say that Nolan's weight issues were often discussed and criticised on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Are there any pictures around of Elliot looking in awful shape? Can't say I've really ever paid attention to him but he always just looked in normal shape to me. Not that it takes anything away from him being a slimy fucker, though. Petre Shilton always looked tubby and it didn't stop him being a good keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Funny how Nolan's weight issues were never a problem. Yep - I would say that Nolan was a fair bit more overweight than HBA. I'd also say that Nolan's weight issues were often discussed and criticised on here. They were, like all of the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Are there any pictures around of Elliot looking in awful shape? Can't say I've really ever paid attention to him but he always just looked in normal shape to me. Not that it takes anything away from him being a slimy fucker, though. Petre Shilton always looked tubby and it didn't stop him being a good keeper. Elliott has a hell of a way to go to beat off Neville Southall to the fat keeper crown. Not even sure he's less dainty than a Mike Hooper to be fair to the lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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