Newintoon Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 How long before Hatem gets the "like a new signing" tag I'd rather have him back in the team regularly than see us sign any player we've been linked with that's for sure. Oh and this whole "he refused to sign a new contract" thing that keeps getting mentioned, can you imagine if he had? Stuck in limbo under this utter twat of a "manager" on a 5 year contract Same here, under Pardew hes never going to be happy when we go 1-0 up hes hauled off to protect our lead instead of trying to kill off the opposition and when we go 1 or 2 down hes hauled off made a scapegoat eg Southampton Everton last season. Add in his 10 minute cameos he gets off the bench when Pardews in the shit. Its just a fucking joke. Pardew and Ben Arfa will never work one has to go and for fucks sakes please be Pardew and SOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Slim love banner Michael. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 You know what? Just ONCE, I love to see us play a 4303 with Ben Arfa, Cabella, and Riviere all stood on the halfway line (ok just inside to be onside) and told NOT to trackback while we were defending with 7 players. Id bet one whole english pound that EVERY team would leave at least five players back to defend against that, and wouldnt dare hold a high line. Its total bullshit, that every player has to defend. We dont ask Williamson to make runs down the wing ffs. This, every word. It is ridiculous how some people can't see that defending with 11 men simply invites pressure actually makes it harder to defend and clear your lines. 'Attack is the best form of defense', a mantra that did Alex Ferguson no harm not many other managers. Keegan and Robson both created fantastic teams here using the same philosophy and it was always a pleasure to watch them. That pleasure is utterly gone these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 You know what? Just ONCE, I love to see us play a 4303 with Ben Arfa, Cabella, and Riviere all stood on the halfway line (ok just inside to be onside) and told NOT to trackback while we were defending with 7 players. Id bet one whole english pound that EVERY team would leave at least five players back to defend against that, and wouldnt dare hold a high line. Its total bullshit, that every player has to defend. We dont ask Williamson to make runs down the wing ffs. Double edged sword. As soon as we concede from the very first corner doing that, people will bitch about the 3 players stood up the pitch watching on. Teams generally have 5 players in the box to attack a corner, that would leave them with 5 to play with elsewhere, they wouldnt need 5 to deal with those 3, maybe 3 with one a bit deeper outside the box if it gets headed clear. With NUFC's 5 man marking, and 3 on the half way line stood watching, we'd only have 2 to play with, sacrificing men on the post to pick up the other teams "extra" men Not worth it imo. Seen a stat that with more men in the box you're however more likely to NOT concede on a corner, just cause of numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 You know what? Just ONCE, I love to see us play a 4303 with Ben Arfa, Cabella, and Riviere all stood on the halfway line (ok just inside to be onside) and told NOT to trackback while we were defending with 7 players. Id bet one whole english pound that EVERY team would leave at least five players back to defend against that, and wouldnt dare hold a high line. Its total bullshit, that every player has to defend. We dont ask Williamson to make runs down the wing ffs. This, every word. It is ridiculous how some people can't see that defending with 11 men simply invites pressure actually makes it harder to defend and clear your lines. 'Attack is the best form of defense', a mantra that did Alex Ferguson no harm not many other managers. Keegan and Robson both created fantastic teams here using the same philosophy and it was always a pleasure to watch them. That pleasure is utterly gone these days. English mentaility though of everyone has to track back/get stuck in, show their passion etc.....even the fans over here.....I remember the fans slating the likes of L.Robert etc for not putting in the effort to help defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 You know what? Just ONCE, I love to see us play a 4303 with Ben Arfa, Cabella, and Riviere all stood on the halfway line (ok just inside to be onside) and told NOT to trackback while we were defending with 7 players. Id bet one whole english pound that EVERY team would leave at least five players back to defend against that, and wouldnt dare hold a high line. Its total bullshit, that every player has to defend. We dont ask Williamson to make runs down the wing ffs. What a novel idea. It'll never catch on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaron Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Besiktas make a move for Ben Arfa according to Graeme Baily Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Besiktas make a move for Ben Arfa according to Graeme Baily The Ba-BA partnership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 He'd literally tear that league up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 would immediately buy B&W besiktas ben arfa jersey for $1,000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 You know what? Just ONCE, I love to see us play a 4303 with Ben Arfa, Cabella, and Riviere all stood on the halfway line (ok just inside to be onside) and told NOT to trackback while we were defending with 7 players. Id bet one whole english pound that EVERY team would leave at least five players back to defend against that, and wouldnt dare hold a high line. Its total bullshit, that every player has to defend. We dont ask Williamson to make runs down the wing ffs. Fecking cracking post! Almost jumped out my seat at work and fist-pumped! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 would immediately buy B&W besiktas ben arfa jersey for $1,000 Fucking genius idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 would immediately buy B&W besiktas ben arfa jersey for $1,000 Fucking genius idea. I'll buy a couple for £50 each and sell them on to you lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 DEAL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 They don't play in stripes anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 ffs. Fine. I'll get last season's kit with a new player name on the back. I don't care if it makes nee sense. http://www.besiktasshop.com/en/kits-2014-15/kits-2013-14-en-2/besiktas-home-jersey-13-14-en.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I've been to the Besitkas club shop in Istanbul, didn't buy anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I've been to the Besitkas club shop in Istanbul, didn't buy anything. Thanks for sharing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I've been to the Besitkas club shop in Istanbul, didn't buy anything. Thanks for sharing that. I was thinking of adding a Milner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 If Besiktas wanted Ben Arfa surely they wouldn't have waited until after their CL qualifiers to make a move? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Read on Goal.com Demba Ba recommended him to the manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 nee chance, every player hates hatem and wants him dead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 nee chance, every player hates hatem and wants him dead Might as well just find the best black & white jersey on the market and just get Hatem's name on that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 But the 4303 formation could be perfect for Pardew's front foot football. Mike Williamson would look like Stevie G. hoofing the ball over the heads of their midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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