ujpest doza Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Plenty of skill, shite attitude,waste of talent, waste of time at virtually every club he went to. But of course its never his fault. But on his day unplayable when he could be arsed. Could have achieved a hell of a lot in his career, but ultimately he’s achieved fuck all. He's underachieved, absolutely no doubt about that, but no way has he achieved fuck all, like. He's won a lot. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatem_Ben_Arfa#Honours Very misleading when you look at how many games he actually played in those seasons when "he" won the league mind. 9,12 and 13 for the 1st 3 titles. Nearly half the season then. Doesn't mean a lot tbh, he definitely contributed and was seen as the next big thing at that point. 9 games, 12 games and 13 games is not nearly half the season man. He's a very talented footballer but just seems like he can't be arsed which is both annoying and frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I tried searching for it BUT no joy (might just be Tapatalk), I recall someone posting stats of Ben Arfa showing his goals/assists per minutes ratio in comparison to Ginola and Robert, anyone know where to find it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I tried searching for it BUT no joy (might just be Tapatalk), I recall someone posting stats of Ben Arfa showing his goals/assists per minutes ratio in comparison to Ginola and Robert, anyone know where to find it? Don’t know where to find them but pretty sure it was a goal or assist every 79mins I think. Or was it 179mins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I'd imagine it's nearer the latter like. Even that seems a low ratio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 https://www.whoscored.com/Players/10194/History/Hatem-Ben-Arfa Someone work it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 https://www.whoscored.com/Players/10194/History/Hatem-Ben-Arfa Someone work it out. Every 192 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I can't wrap my head around the fact the most appearances he's actually made for a single club is us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Plenty of skill, shite attitude,waste of talent, waste of time at virtually every club he went to. But of course its never his fault. But on his day unplayable when he could be arsed. Could have achieved a hell of a lot in his career, but ultimately he’s achieved fuck all. He's underachieved, absolutely no doubt about that, but no way has he achieved fuck all, like. He's won a lot. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatem_Ben_Arfa#Honours Very misleading when you look at how many games he actually played in those seasons when "he" won the league mind. 9,12 and 13 for the 1st 3 titles. Nearly half the season then. Doesn't mean a lot tbh, he definitely contributed and was seen as the next big thing at that point. 9 games, 12 games and 13 games is not nearly half the season man. He's a very talented footballer but just seems like he can't be arsed which is both annoying and frustrating. Them stats aren’t even starts either. 9 games being classed as ‘nearly half a season’ ffs The point is in relation to achieving fuck all - he has because a player of his talent should regularly be competing at the top of worthwhile leagues rather than the French league and regularly playing in and competing in the CL and for his national country. ‘Winning’ a few French titles as a bit part player is pathetic for a player of his talent and indicative of his cant be arsed attitude. An utter waste and he’s only got himself to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 https://www.whoscored.com/Players/10194/History/Hatem-Ben-Arfa Someone work it out. Every 192 minutes. Need to find stats for Ginola/Robert now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 ‘Winning’ a few French titles as a bit part player is pathetic for a player of his talent and indicative of his cant be arsed attitude. An utter waste and he’s only got himself to blame. Can blame Pardew for wasting his talent here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Still didn't win 'fuck all' though did he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 ‘Winning’ a few French titles as a bit part player is pathetic for a player of his talent and indicative of his cant be arsed attitude. An utter waste and he’s only got himself to blame. Can blame Pardew for wasting his talent here If we had Rafa during the same period, do we think the end result would have been different? Who would we blame then? Rafa or Ben Arfa? It’d be like choosing between your parents during a divorce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 What does that have to do with Pardew treating him terribly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Still didn't win 'fuck all' though did he? Never said that. Achieved fuck all, yes - because he’s massively underachieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 What does that have to do with Pardew treating him terribly? Well his time here would have ended in the same way, so his talent would have been wasted here as you said it was under Pardew. His time here ended like his time has everywhere - with him throwing a strop and acting a cunt. So is Pardew to blame? Yes. Is Ben Arfa to blame? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Still didn't win 'fuck all' though did he? Never said that. Achieved fuck all, yes - because he’s massively underachieved. Okay, he still didn't achieve fuck all then. Because he obviously did achieve a lot despite underachieving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 What does that have to do with Pardew treating him terribly? Well his time here would have ended in the same way, so his talent would have been wasted here as you said it was under Pardew. His time here ended like his time has everywhere - with him throwing a strop and acting a c***. So is Pardew to blame? Yes. Is Ben Arfa to blame? Yes. Bringing Rafa into it is pretty pointless. I think Pardew was more to blame for his time ending sourly here then HBA himself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 https://www.whoscored.com/Players/10194/History/Hatem-Ben-Arfa Someone work it out. Every 192 minutes. Thauvin currently at 165 fwiw Pogba 219 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 He literally falls out with every club or manager he played for except Nice. He must have to share most of the blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 He literally falls out with every club or manager he played for except Nice. He must have to share most of the blame. Nope. Every manager and chairman he's ever had was a prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norseman Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 What is this guy doing atm anyway? Just wasting his career with PSG reserves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 He literally falls out with every club or manager he played for except Nice. He must have to share most of the blame. Nope. Every manager and chairman he's ever had was a prick. I don't think anyone really argues against him being a problem, yet this argument always gets trotted out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 He literally falls out with every club or manager he played for except Nice. He must have to share most of the blame. Nope. Every manager and chairman he's ever had was a prick. tbf the other 100+ players under their management were fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 We should re-sign him. If only to raise my hate levels towards stratosphere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 We’d be deed without it mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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