Nobody Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Just don't think that Guardiola has been in the game long enough to be considered as great as Ancelotti. Didn't know he had more league titles tbh, but even so, they have "only" been at Barcelona and Bayern Munich, the latter being pretty much a walk over and the former with arguably the best team ever (which he deserves massive amounts of credit for). Like I said, Guardiola looks like he'll become one of the all time greats, but he's not there yet IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Just don't think that Guardiola has been in the game long enough to be considered as great as Ancelotti. Didn't know he had more league titles tbh, but even so, they have "only" been at Barcelona and Bayern Munich, the latter being pretty much a walk over and the former with arguably the best team ever (which he deserves massive amounts of credit for). Like I said, Guardiola looks like he'll become one of the all time greats, but he's not there yet IMO. Fair enough I guess. What I like about him is the fact that he came to Bayern and could've easily just rode the success of Heynckes and play the same football which was obviously killing it. He still decided to change and dare I say they're better now than they've been before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'm very surprised you'd put Ancelotti over Ferguson like, that justification is quite flaky. Ferguson lasted 25 years at one of the biggest clubs in the world because he was the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I don't want to keep harping on about Ancelotti but the bloke's absolute class from head to toe. Every inch the younger more astute version of Keegan. Think Sir Bobby is a better comparison. Great managers who are/were successful pretty much wherever they went. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I'm very surprised you'd put Ancelotti over Ferguson like, that justification is quite flaky. Ferguson lasted 25 years at one of the biggest clubs in the world because he was the best. You only have to look at what has happened to Man Utd since to see how good a manager he was. GOAT for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Ancelotti is a true great like, think what's happening to Madrid at the moment is more the way the culture of that rotten club is setup. Long-term success and continuity isn't ingrained into the way they are setup. They're desperately short of options in the squad at the moment and that's telling as a lot of the team look burnt out, or Ancelotti isn't in the position to leave out some of his out of form players as he doesn't have people ready to come in for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Just don't think that Guardiola has been in the game long enough to be considered as great as Ancelotti. Didn't know he had more league titles tbh, but even so, they have "only" been at Barcelona and Bayern Munich, the latter being pretty much a walk over and the former with arguably the best team ever (which he deserves massive amounts of credit for). Like I said, Guardiola looks like he'll become one of the all time greats, but he's not there yet IMO. Fair enough I guess. What I like about him is the fact that he came to Bayern and could've easily just rode the success of Heynckes and play the same football which was obviously killing it. He still decided to change and dare I say they're better now than they've been before. Another way to look at it is that he changed a winning formula and for that reason got destroyed in the champions league last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Just don't think that Guardiola has been in the game long enough to be considered as great as Ancelotti. Didn't know he had more league titles tbh, but even so, they have "only" been at Barcelona and Bayern Munich, the latter being pretty much a walk over and the former with arguably the best team ever (which he deserves massive amounts of credit for). Like I said, Guardiola looks like he'll become one of the all time greats, but he's not there yet IMO. Fair enough I guess. What I like about him is the fact that he came to Bayern and could've easily just rode the success of Heynckes and play the same football which was obviously killing it. He still decided to change and dare I say they're better now than they've been before. Another way to look at it is that he changed a winning formula and for that reason got destroyed in the champions league last season Destroyed in the semi's sure, but that was a lot down to the game panning out the way Real wanted it. Pure counters. Result wasn't fair in comparison to the performances over two legs. Real loves an early goal from a set piece so they can just counter all day. Real Madrid is a top two team on paper in Europe without a doubt, the depth they have shows that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 That game, man. Taking off Mandzukic and bringing on Javi Martinez when 3 down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 That game, man. Taking off Mandzukic and bringing on Javi Martinez when 3 down Innovative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Ancelotti is second to none in KO formats, less so in a league format (as his 3 league titles in 20+ years shows) It completely depends how you evaluate managers, if you want CL success then he's the one you want but if you want league titles there's quite a few who are more likely to bring you success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Ancelotti is second to none in KO formats, less so in a league format (as his 3 league titles in 20+ years shows) It completely depends how you evaluate managers, if you want CL success then he's the one you want but if you want league titles there's quite a few who are more likely to bring you success. Agreed. Madrid are looney like. Stick with Carlo for the net couple years and they'll get to another final imo. Sack him - where do they turn? Zidane? I know their biggest rivals have had huge success with former midfielders becoming managers but it sounds ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Ancelotti is second to none in KO formats, less so in a league format (as his 3 league titles in 20+ years shows) Fair enough if that's your opinion, but why is he second to none in KO formats though? I mean, he has the most CL wins (equal to Paisley) and all. But I mean, he's managed very good sides since 99 while someone like Guardiola who has won two already and might win another one has in far less amount. Mourinho started later as well. Heynckes and Hitzfeld have good competition records and Del Bosque probably has the best CV when it comes to KO format. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 It's pretty much a given that Real Madrid's next manager will be Zinedine Zidane; Florentino Pérez loves him and he's been groomed for the role. They won't sack Ancelotti now, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 It's pretty much a given that Real Madrid's next manager will be Zinedine Zidane; Florentino Pérez loves him and he's been groomed for the role. They won't sack Ancelotti now, though. First year with Castilla no? Perez should give Ancelotti another season regardless of results to give Zidane more time to prepare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Quite like that PSG kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Most expensive defence ever? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Bye Zlatan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Never a red ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Chelsea are the jammiest bunch of fucks going. fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Look at John Terry's reaction man, absolute wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 You can see why he gave it but that was harsh based on the replay IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 palnese is going to love that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Not even a booking that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 How is that a red man. Game's gone to the durgs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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