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If he'd slotted in that chance in I would've been pretty happy with his performance TBH.

 

It was a massive, massive moment in the game, and indeed the season, and Gini blew it. Those 2 points could be huge in May, no excuses at all for that miss.

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Rather leave de jong in for link up play and dump Colback to get Perez in the team personnally

 

I think we need to put Thauvin in personally to get a balanced team.  All of our attaches on down our Right wing which makes it easier for the opposition to defend.

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Rather leave de jong in for link up play and dump Colback to get Perez in the team personnally

 

I think we need to put Thauvin in personally to get a balanced team.  All of our attaches on down our Right wing which makes it easier for the opposition to defend.

Just think he's too weak to play every game, he appears to play so much better when he comes off the bench. Wasn't sure why it was Anita who made made for him though, we lost our legs in the middle after that because he was all over the place.

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I actually like him as a player. Yeah he's not very quick, but he's very intelligent and is a good organizer. As others have said, the lad just needs a run of games. If anything, it shows how badly off we are in midfield and it's stupid how many players we have, that can play the no.10 role.

 

Perez will be sold next month, anyway.

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A lot of this talk about De Jong with his pace and urgency is very similar to what I was reading from Arsenal fans about Ozil last season. Wenger wasting his money on a player not suited to the PL and not adapting to it. Now he's the top assister in Europe and Arsenal fans now loving him.

 

I'm not saying De Jong is in Ozil's class but style of play is similar and needs pace/runners around him to be most effective along with linking up the teams play. He slotted Sissoko/Janmaat in a couple of times when they ran beyond him and that's what he needs but more of it. Perez should be in the team with him but if it's one or the other, Perez it should be as he's currently more suited to our style of play.

 

Things just aren't going for De Jong at the minute. He was unlucky not to be on scoresheet last week after Cisse's cock up and he should have been on it again today but for a horrendous miss. At least he's popping up in the right areas and it's not by chance because he's very good at finding the space around the pitch. He'll not adapt to the league and gain confidence by sitting on the bench. McClaren needs to find a formation to get his best players on the pitch. At the moment, he's far off doing so.

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I'd be interested to see how he worked with Perez. I think they could link up well, but we wouldn't have much of a focal point up top for Dummet to aim at.

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A lot of this talk about De Jong with his pace and urgency is very similar to what I was reading from Arsenal fans about Ozil last season. Wenger wasting his money on a player not suited to the PL and not adapting to it. Now he's the top assister in Europe and Arsenal fans now loving him.

 

I'm not saying De Jong is in Ozil's class but style of play is similar and needs pace/runners around him to be most effective along with linking up the teams play. He slotted Sissoko/Janmaat in a couple of times when they ran beyond him and that's what he needs but more of it. Perez should be in the team with him but if it's one or the other, Perez it should be as he's currently more suited to our style of play.

 

Things just aren't going for De Jong at the minute. He was unlucky not to be on scoresheet last week after Cisse's cock up and he should have been on it again today but for a horrendous miss. At least he's popping up in the right areas and it's not by chance because he's very good at finding the space around the pitch. He'll not adapt to the league and gain confidence by sitting on the bench. McClaren needs to find a formation to get his best players on the pitch. At the moment, he's far off doing so.

 

Not sure how much you've seen of De Jong but his style is nothing like Ozil's.

 

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Compare him to Nolan or something, not fucking Ozil  [emoji38]

No idea why I'm being fair to Brett, but tbf to Brett he heavily caveated his post and said he wasn't comparing them as players.

He does say they have a similar style of play which I wouldn't say is the case

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The Ozil comparison is weird. Nothing alike. Ozil needs runners to thread passes too. De Jong needs runners because he can't run.

 

The Nolan comparison is fair and not unkind. Nolan scored a dozen goals for us in the PL in his final season. You would hope De Jong is an upgrade in overall ability in a similar style although a proper 10 rather than a CM.

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Finds space really impressively but like Dave I fear he might be too slow particularly for a team who play predominately on back foot as we do.

 

Nailed it.

 

Well, I'd hate to see him in a team playing front-foot football then, as the man can't run for shit.

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Finds space really impressively but like Dave I fear he might be too slow particularly for a team who play predominately on back foot as we do.

 

Nailed it.

 

Well, I'd hate to see him in a team playing front-foot football then, as the man can't run for s***.

 

Ajax. And not only domestically, in the Champions League.

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