toontownman Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Hoping he continues to improve with fitness. He can be useful for us. That said. Fucking horrific miss that should have given us 3 hugely important points. Let's hope those two or three points that would have been gained on relegation teams/villa won't cost us our premiership status come may. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 3 starts and written off. Classic. Hyperbolic wummery. This man is keeping our best player out of the team when we are in a relegation battle and people are calling to continue giving this guy time to get used to the league Aye, let's ensure he's used to it by the time the season ends and it's a clusterfuck. Perez should definitely be picked ahead of him but there's no way I'm going to write SDJ off after a small amount of games. There's room for all three. He shouldn't be keeping him out. Perez & De Jong behind Mitrovic, with Wijnaldum, Sissoko and one of Colback/Anita in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 not the worst player on the pitch today but cost us the game today with that shocking miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 He's had 3 starts in God knows how long, first run of games in what, 18 months potentially? In the first two starts they weren't games where we were battering the opposition and him getting onto things. Today was the first real sniff of a goal (apart from Cisse's bastard head last week), he's had. I'll forgive him for being a bit rusty in those sorts of positions at this stage of this come back. I think he'd benefit from Ayoze & Mitrovic in the same side as him rather than instead of him, and I think the other two would benefit over a full 60-70 minutes from having De Jong's intelligence and vision there with them too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 doesn't excuse that shocking miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Siem de Jong @siemdejong 3 hours ago I know I'm shit. I should have scored😡 need to keep improving and keep getting results! #NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 It'd be madness to write him off, he's going to need time to get used to the league, but he doesn't deserve to start the next one after today. He was tidy and linked up decently at times, but we need more urgency there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 doesn't excuse that shocking miss. It's not an excuse it was a shocking miss. But that's not dropworthy man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 There's just no urgency about him, and I'm not sure I see that changing however many chances he is given. Perez is better, so should play instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 There's just no urgency about him, and I'm not sure I see that changing however many chances he is given. Perez is better, so should play instead. If he had a better midfield 2 behind him I think he'd be more effective. But yes he looks like he's trying to run in a swimming pool at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 If he'd nodded that chance in I would've been pretty happy with his performance TBH. He interchanged well with people around him and almost never makes a mistake in possession. I think a lot of the criticism is amplified because he's keeping Perez out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 If he'd nodded that chance in I would've been pretty happy with his performance TBH. He interchanged well with people around him and almost never makes a mistake in possession. I think a lot of the criticism is amplified because he's keeping Perez out. It was a massive, massive moment in the game, and indeed the season, and he blew it. Those 2 points could be huge in May, no excuses at all for that miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 No course not, it was a bad miss. What I'm saying is the other 9 times out of 10, when he puts it away, I would be relatively happy with how he played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 He's had 3 starts in God knows how long, first run of games in what, 18 months potentially? In the first two starts they weren't games where we were battering the opposition and him getting onto things. Today was the first real sniff of a goal (apart from Cisse's b****** head last week), he's had. I'll forgive him for being a bit rusty in those sorts of positions at this stage of this come back. I think he'd benefit from Ayoze & Mitrovic in the same side as him rather than instead of him, and I think the other two would benefit over a full 60-70 minutes from having De Jong's intelligence and vision there with them too. Dat intelligence. Dat vision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Not saying he should start over Perez. But he just came back and offers something else. We need 2 quality players in all positions and he can be quality imo...he just needs game time! no problem with that. Think McClaren had to make important changes. It had nothing to do with perez performing bad...it was just something that had to be done! It worked, he played well and he needs minutes! It makes the squad stronger. Sick of people screaming for Perez! (He is my favorite as well) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 If he'd nodded that chance in I would've been pretty happy with his performance TBH. He interchanged well with people around him and almost never makes a mistake in possession. I think a lot of the criticism is amplified because he's keeping Perez out. Yep. Singling him out for 'He cost us the game with that miss!!!' type stuff in particular when good chances were missed by others, and he wasn't responsible for giving Ayew space to strike, doesn't really make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 If he'd nodded that chance in I would've been pretty happy with his performance TBH. He interchanged well with people around him and almost never makes a mistake in possession. I think a lot of the criticism is amplified because he's keeping Perez out. It was a massive, massive moment in the game, and indeed the season, and he blew it. Those 2 points could be huge in May, no excuses at all for that miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 If he'd slotted in that chance in I would've been pretty happy with his performance TBH. It was a massive, massive moment in the game, and indeed the season, and Gini blew it. Those 2 points could be huge in May, no excuses at all for that miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Rather leave de jong in for link up play and dump Colback to get Perez in the team personnally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Rather leave de jong in for link up play and dump Colback to get Perez in the team personnally I think we need to put Thauvin in personally to get a balanced team. All of our attaches on down our Right wing which makes it easier for the opposition to defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Rather leave de jong in for link up play and dump Colback to get Perez in the team personnally I think we need to put Thauvin in personally to get a balanced team. All of our attaches on down our Right wing which makes it easier for the opposition to defend. Just think he's too weak to play every game, he appears to play so much better when he comes off the bench. Wasn't sure why it was Anita who made made for him though, we lost our legs in the middle after that because he was all over the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Should have scored, tried too hard to place the header instead of just heading it straight. I'd still have him in the team though, but instead of Colback. He has a uncanny knack of putting efforts just the wrong side of the post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I actually like him as a player. Yeah he's not very quick, but he's very intelligent and is a good organizer. As others have said, the lad just needs a run of games. If anything, it shows how badly off we are in midfield and it's stupid how many players we have, that can play the no.10 role. Perez will be sold next month, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Having a number 10 that doesn't create much seems a bit pointless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Having a number 10 that doesn't create much seems a bit pointless Well, it still works if he scores goals consistently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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