Guest palnese Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Says the Swede. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Says the Swede. ...who having maintained that Brazil would support Argentina in the end because South Americans stick together, promptly celebrated them losing the final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Says the Swede. Except I'm a Brazilian citizen. It was a genuine question, I don't know if maybe on of his parents is English or his connection to England. Always thought he was pure German which makes it interesting, especially now that they've won the WC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Says the Swede. ...who having maintained that Brazil would support Argentina in the end because South Americans stick together, promptly celebrated them losing the final. Didn't I say that Argentina would be the only team no one would support? I was actually cheering for Argentina until we were beaten tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Says the Swede. Except I'm a Brazilian citizen. It was a genuine question, I don't know if maybe on of his parents is English or his connection to England. Always thought he was pure German which makes it interesting, especially now that they've won the WC Only jesting, marra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 German team arrived home and now driving through Berlin with an open-top bus. Incredible scenes. You're more of an England fan than a Germany fan, aren't you? Yeah, sure. Was supporting Germany in the final but I didn't go crazy or anything. Still, great scenes all over the country and nice to see Löw proving his critics wrong. Are you German though? Doesn't make any sense really, if you're German why would you support England? Yes I am. Well, no I suppose it doesn't really make sense tbf. Thing is, I don't care as much about international football as I do about club football. (Attending games etc..) - I just love watching the games. At the World Cup (or EURO) I started supporting England a bit which obviosuly came through supporting Newcastle more than 10 years back. But as I said, it's not a "hardcore super fan" thing or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 German team arrived home and now driving through Berlin with an open-top bus. Incredible scenes. You're more of an England fan than a Germany fan, aren't you? Yeah, sure. Was supporting Germany in the final but I didn't go crazy or anything. Still, great scenes all over the country and nice to see Löw proving his critics wrong. Are you German though? Doesn't make any sense really, if you're German why would you support England? Yes I am. Well, no I suppose it doesn't really make sense tbf. Thing is, I don't care as much about international football as I do about club football. (Attending games etc..) - I just love watching the games. At the World Cup (or EURO) I started supporting England a bit which obviosuly came through supporting Newcastle more than 10 years back. But as I said, it's not a "hardcore super fan" thing or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 First half of Brazil v Chile is the best half of international football I can remember watching. Hmm, from what I remember I enjoyed Germany v Ghana second half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 First half of Brazil v Chile is the best half of international football I can remember watching. from what perspective? remember brazil pressuring the fuck out of them and chile not really getting into the game bar the goal, preferred the second half of that game when chile found their feet The sheer pace of it mainly with both teams looking dangerous, the better players coming to the fore, having no idea which way it was going to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 First half of Brazil v Chile is the best half of international football I can remember watching. from what perspective? remember brazil pressuring the fuck out of them and chile not really getting into the game bar the goal, preferred the second half of that game when chile found their feet The sheer pace of it mainly with both teams looking dangerous, the better players coming to the fore, having no idea which way it was going to go. Was a good match aye, just thought it got better after Chile scored myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 First half of Brazil v Chile is the best half of international football I can remember watching. Hmm, from what I remember I enjoyed Germany v Ghana second half The second half of that match was easily the best of the tournament, imo, anyway. Two strong teams that just continually exploited each others weaknesses ruthlessly and gave everything. Was typified by Ayew yelling for a maniac for about five minutes after his goal, Kroos looking completely exhausted over the free-kick at the end, and Muller sprawled out the pitch covered in bllod after the whistle. This was my favourite day of the tournament (second Saturday) in general, tbf. Argentina-Iran nearly being the biggest upset in the history of the WC, probably (and terrifying me in terms of the group), aforementioned German-Ghana match, and Nigeria-Bosnia an open, exciting match between two strong, talented, but ultimately flawed sides decided by thinnest of margins. I also thoroughly enjoyed the first Saturday with four matches. Dominant Colombia, stunning Costa Rica, two European powers battling with traditional English fall/hysteria, and CIV coming back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 http://www.espnfc.us/fifa-world-cup/4/blog/post/1951202/moving-from-the-world-cup-to-the-premier-league We're Italy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 http://www.benefoot.net/belgiums-world-cup-hype-and-reality/ The benefit of tournament football is that it is very temporary. For those people who were experts on Belgian football for a few days are now too busy being experts on Brazil or Germany to remember their original views. For many the Belgian national team disappointed at this World Cup, which is both fair and unfair in equal measures. For the team they made their goal, the quarterfinals of the World Cup is not to be sniffed at and while they never really amazed, they did what needed to be done which is more than can be said for many teams whose hopes were dashed extremely early. No one particularly likes to point out the failings of others but some of the comments in the build up to Belgium’s World Cup campaign were just flat out wrong and misleading. A lot was made about Belgium being the tournaments ‘dark horses’ a phrase used so often it became totally irrelevant and superfluous. The dark horse tag wasn’t issued by Vincent Kompany or Marc Wilmots. It was a comment associated with them by media outlets prior to the tournament. Of course there are ‘dark horses’ at every tournament and in this case it was most likely Costa Rica or Algeria. How underrated can a team full of players plying their trade in Europe’s top leagues be? Vincent Kompany just won another English Premier League title with Manchester City, Dries Mertens plays in Serie ‘A’ with Napoli, Eden Hazard cost Chelsea over £30m when he joined from Lille. What people meant is that Belgium had the makings of a team that could do well. However, their young players had a massive lack of international tournament experience. Nothing compares quite like the World Cup. When you lose in a domestic cup you continue with the league, you don’t leave and go home. The Belgian team would look to Kompany to lead them in Brazil but even he had never played in a World Cup or European Championship – only Daniel van Buyten had back in 2002. It was a new experience for every other player and that cannot be overlooked. So the much deplored dark horse tag was coined not by the Belgians themselves. But the people on the outside looking in. To anyone who heard our writers Bjorn De Cock or Gary Niblock on a smorgasbord of media outlets prior to the tournament will know that we made a rather more dispassionate assessment of Belgium’s chances. Our words were those of warning. Stop overrating this side. Stop expecting miracles. Stop telling us Eden Hazard is the danger man, of course he is talented but his performances for les Diables Rouges have never matched those in a Chelsea strip. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but looking at the names on Belgium’s squad and assuming the goals would flow was only going to be tantamount to disaster. Belgium qualified for the tournament scoring 18 goals and conceding just four. They were grouped with Croatia, Serbia, Scotland, Wales and the Former Yugoslavia Republic of Macedonia. A potentially tricky group but hardly one that should prove difficult to break down. Belgium didn’t lose a single match of their ten, a great feather in their cap that probably added to their reputation to other countries, but the facts are there to see: 18 goals in 10 games isn’t a great return. That people are surprised Belgium played a relatively rigid and cautious brand of football just highlights that some people didn’t really do their homework. The real surprise came in how calm and composed Daniel van Buyten was after a few jittery moments against Algeria and not only was he the model professional on and off the pitch, he also reaped the maximum benefit from his prior tournament experience and was one of the best defenders in a tournament that saw other oft-criticised veterans (Vlaar, Yepes) excel at the heart of defence. Belgium are a team that contain their opponents and put men behind the ball when possible. With centre backs playing at either flank of the defence their is not a lot of call from Wilmots to let his defenders maraud forward in a gung ho style, he wants to keep his team relatively tight at the back and curbs Axel Witsel’s box-to-box tendencies by making his fuzzy haired midfielder lay anchor in front of the defensive line. The main disappointment, you’d suspect, for most people is the seeming lack of a cutting edge from the attacking players. Belgium succeeded in the World Cup by outlasting opponents, bringing on fresh, powerful players such as Origi, Lukaku and Mertens to torment tired defenders but the decisions could hardly be called tactical masterstrokes from Wilmots. Wilmots failed to get the best out of Eden Hazard, again. Although he isn’t the first coach and probably won’t be the last to struggle with the Hazard conundrum at international level. 6 goals in 50 appearances is hardly the fear inducing form of the player Hazard is capable of being. But again, it’s the failings of preparation that people assumed Hazard would be so potent when clearly the figures dictate that he wouldn’t be. Without wanting to blow our own trumpet too much in one article, we constantly dismissed Hazard in favour of Kevin De Bruyne but people didn’t seem to want to hear it. De Bruyne isn’t the name player Hazard is but the child-like attacking midfielder is Wilmots’ go-to guy when it comes to creating chances, the ten chances made against the United States of America a glimpse of the talent he wields. Unfortunately for the nation the creativity was too inconsistent for Belgium. It turned out Algeria were much more a difficult proposition than people were ready to give them credit for, but Belgium managed to outlast them in their first game of the tournament – a match that would have been a sin to lose. Russia and South Korea both play a relatively unambitious style of football that is hardly condusive to Belgium’s counter attacking style of play where they look to catch teams out high up the pitch and hit them quickly on the break. When Belgium did get the chance to play the ball they were ponderous in possession and bereft of ideas for the most part and struggled to really unlock teams like you’d expect. The United States were rightly lauded for their open approach but it did play into Belgium’s hands and only Tim Howard ensured one of the most memorable of extra-time periods. In summary Belgium’s World Cup was a relatively successful adventure but with definite room for improvement. They come out the battle with a good deal of experience but visible scars or injuries. The European Championships in France in 2016 will be a good test of this team’s real ability. With Adnan Januzaj set to play a bigger role in the squad if he matures sufficiently and the emergence of Divock Origi’s emergence giving Christian Benteke and Romelu Lukaku some much needed extra competition, the young squad will be richer for the Brazil experience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Excellent article. The point I was trying to get across earlier in this thread. Saying they failed and that Wilmots failed was shenanigans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 German team arrived home and now driving through Berlin with an open-top bus. Incredible scenes. You're more of an England fan than a Germany fan, aren't you? Yeah, sure. Was supporting Germany in the final but I didn't go crazy or anything. Still, great scenes all over the country and nice to see Löw proving his critics wrong. Are you German though? Doesn't make any sense really, if you're German why would you support England? I know a few Germans who support England. England's usually shit, like, but they also (mostly) have a "go for the win, play fair, and fight for every ball" attitude that is appealing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/O8mjQub.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Lahm retires from international football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 That's a strange one. There's still plenty of mileage in him. Suppose he went out on a high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Got a strange but very safe feeling that he's preparing to be the first player to be outing himself while still playing. "Imposible" to do while still captain of Germany. We'll have to wait and see but I suppose it's happening and it's not too far away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Love Philipp Lahm, best FB in the world by a fucking mile - has been for years too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Got a strange but very safe feeling that he's preparing to be the first player to be outing himself while still playing. "Imposible" to do while still captain of Germany. We'll have to wait and see but I suppose it's happening and it's not too far away. Really? What suggests that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I sometimes forget about how good Lahm is at taking people on. Such a class player like, not just a class fullback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Got a strange but very safe feeling that he's preparing to be the first player to be outing himself while still playing. "Imposible" to do while still captain of Germany. We'll have to wait and see but I suppose it's happening and it's not too far away. Whoa, really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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