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He always gave a shit imo. Just played poorly last season.

 

Nah I remember quite a few times when someone stole in behind him to get a free header and then he'd look round in surprise with a "Huh? Where did you come from?" expression.

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Janmaat was one of a handful of proven Premier League players we had left. Our squad is weaker without him. He's been sold for less than his market value.

 

Not a disaster but no need to try and spin those facts.

 

Proven in what way?

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Janmaat was one of a handful of proven Premier League players we had left. Our squad is weaker without him. He's been sold for less than his market value.

 

Not a disaster but no need to try and spin those facts.

 

Proven in what way?

 

Proven to be shite for at least a year now.

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Anyone else think Yedlin will offer us much more?  Wants to be here for a start.  He's certainly much quicker and seems to be improving, he definately got better at the Mackems over the course of the season.  Someone with blistering pace is what we need, not arsed in the slightest Jaanmat is gone. 

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Anyone else think Yedlin will offer us much more?  Wants to be here for a start.  He's certainly much quicker and seems to be improving, he definately got better at the Mackems over the course of the season.  Someone with blistering pace is what we need, not arsed in the slightest Jaanmat is gone.

 

For those two bits alone I think it's worth the punt. Yedlin surely can't be any worse at defending, and at least he has pace in his locker to recover from mistakes. Janmaat seems to have wanted out for the last 12 months and it shows in his performances.

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It is weird to say so but i prefer a defensive reliable but s*** for other aspect right back aka Simpson more than Janmaat.

Me too and it's not weird. Janmaat is good for FF but in real life he's cost us way more goals than he created in his time here. Defenders that can defend. Wingers that can attack properly and do enough the other way, CM partnership that can do both, attackers that can score and assist. Then you upgrade for players that can do more but not at the cost of the basic functionality

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G Nev made a point that in his day most FB's were CB's that couldn't make the grade. They then learnt how to attack. Nowadays most FB's are failed wingers and then they learn how to defend.

 

For better sides (us in this division) the ex-winger is probably the best option. But weaker sides need to stick to fundamentals.

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I dont think failed is the correct word like. It just turns out that their style is perhaps more suited to being a full back as they get older in the same way that players often start out as strikers in youth and junior teams. They're just noticed more there.  Ashley Cole was a winger in his youth, you can hardly say he 'failed' at anything, he was just more suited to full back. In the same way that some players will never be suited to playing full back (Robert, Giovinco, Ben Arfa, Ritchie)

 

 

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I dont think failed is the correct word like. It just turns out that their style is perhaps more suited to being a full back as they get older in the same way that players often start out as strikers in youth and junior teams. They're just noticed more there.  Ashley Cole was a winger in his youth, you can hardly say he 'failed' at anything, he was just more suited to full back. In the same way that some players will never be suited to playing full back (Robert, Giovinco, Ben Arfa, Ritchie)

 

 

 

Aye it's not entirely accurate but it's close enough. If you're so good at beating ya man and putting in shots or crosses you would be a winger. Often a FB needs more space to attack into to be a effective. Bale started at FB for Spurs. Too good going forward to be a defender. Then he was a winger. Too good going forward to have to worry about opposition fullbacks - he's now a forward.

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  • 2 months later...

when we tally up the money in during the window I always forget about Janmaat, tells you everything

 

Yup. From cult hero to completely forgettable in the matter of months. Became such an irritating cunt by the end of it. Was back to his very best against Spurs at home but that was obviously a farewell performance.

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