Figures 1-0 Football Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Jesus wept, this lad is made out of bloody Quavers. He's shown some real glimpses of quality, but we cant keep this lad on the books if he cant make it onto a football pitch. Feel for him but like De Jong, it gets pretty frustrating after the 70th injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Sickener for him, might as well start his coaching badges Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 As I said a few posts up I've seen ACL's follow a fair few foot injuries with footballers in the past I suppose if you can't twist or flex a foot then the knees are going to do a fair amount of the twisting and take the strain. Obviously I don't have the data in front of me but questions need to be asked on whether Aarons was truly ready to return to training. Whilst Rafa has put much more faith and responsibility in Dr Paul Catterson his experience in football is very limited and if we could bring in a second more experienced doctor to work alongside him and give a second opinion I think it would be highly preferable. How do you define 'very limited'? He's been here for nearly 8 years and according to his website Paul has previously worked for the Football Association as team doctor for England Futsal, England U17, England U16 and at the World University Games with the Great Britain University Football Team in 2005. which doesn't suggest 'very limited' experience in football. With exception to working with us, none of those roles consist of managing a large group of players over a 50-game season. Our medical department has been so poorly run for eight years that I do not count this as good experience either. We need someone else who can offer a lot more thorough experience in working in the kind of setup Rafa prefers and then eventually by working with this new doctor over a period of time he will have the experience to lead. Anyway the stakes of the sport are to high to rely on the word of one doctor, we need two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Poor lad, highly unlikely to fulfill his potential now. If I was him I might start thinking about a career in coaching Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Feel bad for him. Looked a great prospect when he came on the scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Feel bad for him. Looked a great prospect when he came on the scene. Me too Beren. Another great point. Have a nice day mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Real shame as this lad looks a great talent. He's basically Siem De Jong II though. Without the abuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 What a shiter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Poor lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Feel bad for the lad. Has had no luck, for whatever reason. Be very surprised if he comes back from this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Be very surprised if he comes back from this one. Fucking hell, he hasn't been captured by ISIS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Feel bad for him. Looked a great prospect when he came on the scene. stupidest thing ive read all day imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Real shame as this lad looks a great talent. He's basically Siem De Jong II though. Without the abuse. And the fact De Jong made something of his career before he broke down Edit : Not blaming Aarons for that of course, just stating the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 As I said a few posts up I've seen ACL's follow a fair few foot injuries with footballers in the past I suppose if you can't twist or flex a foot then the knees are going to do a fair amount of the twisting and take the strain. Obviously I don't have the data in front of me but questions need to be asked on whether Aarons was truly ready to return to training. Whilst Rafa has put much more faith and responsibility in Dr Paul Catterson his experience in football is very limited and if we could bring in a second more experienced doctor to work alongside him and give a second opinion I think it would be highly preferable. What has Aarons tearing his ACL got to do with Catterson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Seen it a few times when people have done in their ACL when about to recover from foot injuries. Injury after injury takes its toll and the ACL is the killer. Given his position, attributes and standing within the game the impacts of an ACL means his career is on a knifes edge. Didn't that shithouse Michael Owen do his ACL recovering from a metatarsal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Even if he recovers i think you'll see a significant difference in his game, ACL is a fucking horrible injury and most never come back the same. Especially those who rely on pace and play with a lot of explosion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Be very surprised if he comes back from this one. Fucking hell, he hasn't been captured by ISIS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Sienaldo de Jongrons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Man, this is ridiculous. Get him fit and out on loan next season. Not likely to ever make it here. Was incredibly disappointing at the start of the season when he had a chance to nail down a starting spot prior to the initial injury. Not sure he's even that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Once you suffer multiple injuries one after the other, that's it! You are totally written off and deemed not good enough to ever play for this club. Ask anyone..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Be very surprised if he comes back from this one. Fucking hell, he hasn't been captured by ISIS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Outside of friendlies he's managed about 6 games worth of first team football in 3 years, it's not surprising that people are skeptical about him. Even fistpumps had a better record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 As I said a few posts up I've seen ACL's follow a fair few foot injuries with footballers in the past I suppose if you can't twist or flex a foot then the knees are going to do a fair amount of the twisting and take the strain. Obviously I don't have the data in front of me but questions need to be asked on whether Aarons was truly ready to return to training. Whilst Rafa has put much more faith and responsibility in Dr Paul Catterson his experience in football is very limited and if we could bring in a second more experienced doctor to work alongside him and give a second opinion I think it would be highly preferable. If by very limited you mean 8 years as a doctor at an elite level football club and previously working for the FA, yes very limited football experience. Obviously that is still quite a small period of time in the career of a doctor but to say he is very inexperienced in football is wrong. The club also works very closely with the Nuffield (where Dr. Catterson is also a consultant) so they won't be short on second or third opinions if required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 James. Injuries seem to have already improved under Rafa. I really don't get what your angle is here? You are using probably the most injury prone player in recent team history. To try and make some point about Catterson not being experienced enough in Football to do his job on his own?!?! Tenuous link at best Feel for Aarons. I've just come back from the same, but with a few optional extras thrown in. It isn't fun, the rehab is really boring and repetitive and whilst I only play at a decent amateur level and nowhere near pro, like Aarons. I have lost a lot of agility and power and I am contemplating packing in 11 a side. Obviously he'll get great medical treatment and his rehab will be spot on. But for someone who gets injured when the wind blows. It's a huge concern for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 As I said a few posts up I've seen ACL's follow a fair few foot injuries with footballers in the past I suppose if you can't twist or flex a foot then the knees are going to do a fair amount of the twisting and take the strain. Obviously I don't have the data in front of me but questions need to be asked on whether Aarons was truly ready to return to training. Whilst Rafa has put much more faith and responsibility in Dr Paul Catterson his experience in football is very limited and if we could bring in a second more experienced doctor to work alongside him and give a second opinion I think it would be highly preferable. If by very limited you mean 8 years as a doctor at an elite level football club and previously working for the FA, yes very limited football experience. Obviously that is still quite a small period of time in the career of a doctor but to say he is very inexperienced in football is wrong. The club also works very closely with the Nuffield (where Dr. Catterson is also a consultant) so they won't be short on second or third opinions if required. Clearly I don't have the scientific data or knowledge of the medical conditions but as an outsider looking it it looks very bad. Firstly there is a lot of anecdotal evidence of footballers doing in their ACL after coming back from a foot injury. Crumpy gave one example. Then Aarons on return from a foot injury does his ACL, as an outsider with that anecdotal knowledge it looks like he was signed off when he wasn't ready and if that was the case that is a serious error. Take a step back and think about the long term effects for a sec. Aarons career is now on a knifes edge. We may have to spend millions on a winger, and if Aarons never fully recovers it will again cost us millions on lost potential. It was therefore an error that was extremely bad for this football club. We may be an elite club but we have had a tin pot back room for years. This is not an environment to develop good experience he may as well only have one years experience. Work for England youth does not count as the role does not require managing the players over a fifty game season. Nuffield can not offer that either. I'm not saying we bin Catterson but we can't rely on someone like that to work on their own and do a great job. We need a doctor with a good track record and 15-20 years of experience working in professional contact sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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