Lush Vlad Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 James. Injuries seem to have already improved under Rafa. I really don't get what your angle is here? You are using probably the most injury prone player in recent team history. To try and make some point about Catterson not being experienced enough in Football to do his job on his own?!?! Tenuous link at best Feel for Aarons. I've just come back from the same, but with a few optional extras thrown in. It isn't fun, the rehab is really boring and repetitive and whilst I only play at a decent amateur level and nowhere near pro, like Aarons. I have lost a lot of agility and power and I am contemplating packing in 11 a side. Obviously he'll get great medical treatment and his rehab will be spot on. But for someone who gets injured when the wind blows. It's a huge concern for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 As I said a few posts up I've seen ACL's follow a fair few foot injuries with footballers in the past I suppose if you can't twist or flex a foot then the knees are going to do a fair amount of the twisting and take the strain. Obviously I don't have the data in front of me but questions need to be asked on whether Aarons was truly ready to return to training. Whilst Rafa has put much more faith and responsibility in Dr Paul Catterson his experience in football is very limited and if we could bring in a second more experienced doctor to work alongside him and give a second opinion I think it would be highly preferable. If by very limited you mean 8 years as a doctor at an elite level football club and previously working for the FA, yes very limited football experience. Obviously that is still quite a small period of time in the career of a doctor but to say he is very inexperienced in football is wrong. The club also works very closely with the Nuffield (where Dr. Catterson is also a consultant) so they won't be short on second or third opinions if required. Clearly I don't have the scientific data or knowledge of the medical conditions but as an outsider looking it it looks very bad. Firstly there is a lot of anecdotal evidence of footballers doing in their ACL after coming back from a foot injury. Crumpy gave one example. Then Aarons on return from a foot injury does his ACL, as an outsider with that anecdotal knowledge it looks like he was signed off when he wasn't ready and if that was the case that is a serious error. Take a step back and think about the long term effects for a sec. Aarons career is now on a knifes edge. We may have to spend millions on a winger, and if Aarons never fully recovers it will again cost us millions on lost potential. It was therefore an error that was extremely bad for this football club. We may be an elite club but we have had a tin pot back room for years. This is not an environment to develop good experience he may as well only have one years experience. Work for England youth does not count as the role does not require managing the players over a fifty game season. Nuffield can not offer that either. I'm not saying we bin Catterson but we can't rely on someone like that to work on their own and do a great job. We need a doctor with a good track record and 15-20 years of experience working in professional contact sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Clearly I don't have the scientific data or knowledge of the medical conditions Probably should have just ended your post there, TBH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Once you suffer multiple injuries one after the other, that's it! You are totally written off and deemed not good enough to ever play for this club. Ask anyone..... Given the constant series of injuries he's had. it's not entirely surprising. Nobody's said he's not good enough, just that his injury problems make it likely for him to be successful here. Hamstring problems and rupturing his ACL probably means his pace will be affected if he comes back too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Even if he recovers i think you'll see a significant difference in his game, ACL is a f***ing horrible injury and most never come back the same. Especially those who rely on pace and play with a lot of explosion. There is no reason a 21 year old cannot come back from one ACL tear, it is a very common serious injury. Depending on the severity, there is every chance that he is back running full speed and cutting by next pre-season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 The old adage 'When a ruptured ACL doesn't kill you, it only makes you stronger' gives me hope. Restez forts young Roly. Restez forts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 James. Injuries seem to have already improved under Rafa. I really don't get what your angle is here? You are using probably the most injury prone player in recent team history. To try and make some point about Catterson not being experienced enough in Football to do his job on his own?!?! Tenuous link at best I was bored yesterday and looked at some of the first team doctors in the Premier League. Arsenal's had been in his job since 2009 (same as Catterson), Eva Carneiro only had 6 years experience before leaving Chelsea and Liverpool's first team doctor only joined Liverpool in 2013. Didn't look at any others It's extremely strange to say he's had 'very limited experience' and then blame it on him for Aarons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 RIP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Even if he recovers i think you'll see a significant difference in his game, ACL is a f***ing horrible injury and most never come back the same. Especially those who rely on pace and play with a lot of explosion. There is no reason a 21 year old cannot come back from one ACL tear, it is a very common serious injury. Depending on the severity, there is every chance that he is back running full speed and cutting by next pre-season. Didn't say he wouldn't come back from it, just that he'll likely be severely effected by it and there's evidence to suggest that. Honestly considering the type of player he is it's probably the worst type of injury he could have got imaginable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Just send him to the NY Knicks and be done with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Even if he recovers i think you'll see a significant difference in his game, ACL is a f***ing horrible injury and most never come back the same. Especially those who rely on pace and play with a lot of explosion. There is no reason a 21 year old cannot come back from one ACL tear, it is a very common serious injury. Depending on the severity, there is every chance that he is back running full speed and cutting by next pre-season. Didn't say he wouldn't come back from it, just that he'll likely be severely effected by it and there's evidence to suggest that. Honestly considering the type of player he is it's probably the worst type of injury he could have got imaginable. A severed leg is probably worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSC26 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Shows signs of being a good player, gets injured. Rinse and repeat. A shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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midds Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I like his attitude, I think he's got talent but ultimately he's only going to be of use to us when he's fit and he seldom is. I feel for the lad but a tough decision needs to be made sooner or later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 https://www.instagram.com/p/BPHcNeahxBy/?taken-by=rizz_16&hl=en Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Think I know Frank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 That's ace. Is the lad a Muslim btw? Not that it matters, just used the Islamic phrase 'God Willing', which is quite surprising since I thought he was of Jamaican heritage? Not really that many Muslims in that neck of the woods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I think he's proper Christian. Never heard him shouting 'Allah Akbar' tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Fair enough, could be the phrase is just becoming part of popular culture amongst the mates he hangs around with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 How is 'god willing' a muslim phrase? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 How is 'god willing' a muslim phrase? I work with plenty of Muslims, and the term Inshallah translates directly to 'God willing' and is quite numerous across the Khoran, not so much in any other religion that I know of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 It's a common term in English Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 It's a common term in English Really? Never heard it said by a non-Muslim in my life, whether they be religious or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I've heard it loads. You're from Britain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I've heard it loads. You're from Britain? England, currently living near Leeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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