mrmojorisin75 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 i refuse to believe aarons could be half as bad as atsu was on saturday like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 When was the last time he played? Was it the home game against Man City? Pretty sure he started in that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Aye unless there is some logic to it that I'm not seeing, it feels daft and needlessly harsh. Although I guess it gets the message across. Rafa can be cutthroat AF at times. I thought his treatment of Colback last season was also far more harsh than necessary. Giving someone thirty appearances in a season, and then immediately telling them that are unwanted and banishing them from the squad because they didn't take a move away just made no sense to me in terms of man management. Obviously no one cared since Colback is almost universally despised on here. Fwiw, it is best Aarons leaves this year for Newcastle and Rolando himself. He'll be 23 soon and has never played a full first team season. He probably needs to drop down two levels, so he can just play as much as his apparently frail body will let him and find his feet as a professional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Aye unless there is some logic to it that I'm not seeing, it feels daft and needlessly harsh. Although I guess it gets the message across. Rafa can be cutthroat AF at times. I thought his treatment of Colback last season was also far more harsh than necessary. Giving someone thirty appearances in a season, and then immediately telling them that are unwanted and banishing them from the squad because they didn't take a move away just made no sense to me in terms of man management. Obviously no one cared since Colback is almost universally despised on here. Fwiw, it is best Aarons leaves this year for Newcastle and Rolando himself. He'll be 23 soon and has never played a full first team season. He probably needs to drop down two levels, so he can just play as much as his apparently frail body will let him. Colback had a go at Rafa and told him to fuck off in front of the rest of the squad. Only one way that was going to end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Aye unless there is some logic to it that I'm not seeing, it feels daft and needlessly harsh. Although I guess it gets the message across. Rafa can be cutthroat AF at times. I thought his treatment of Colback last season was also far more harsh than necessary. Giving someone thirty appearances in a season, and then immediately telling them that are unwanted and banishing them from the squad because they didn't take a move away just made no sense to me in terms of man management. Obviously no one cared since Colback is almost universally despised on here. Fwiw, it is best Aarons leaves this year for Newcastle and Rolando himself. He'll be 23 soon and has never played a full first team season. He probably needs to drop down two levels, so he can just play as much as his apparently frail body will let him. Colback had a go at Rafa and told him to fuck off in front of the rest of the squad. Only one way that was going to end. Is that verified? I hadn't heard that account before, tbf, his actions toward would make perfect sense in that context. I thought the original account was that he had turned down a move away that Rafa had arranged for him after deciding he was no longer in his plans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Champo player at best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I still think its a little silly to leave players unregistered when you have space. Saivet's proven useful enough when played to have his number. I thought he’d been sold? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Saivet is apparently on the verge of a permanent move to Bursaspor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Aye unless there is some logic to it that I'm not seeing, it feels daft and needlessly harsh. Although I guess it gets the message across. Rafa can be cutthroat AF at times. I thought his treatment of Colback last season was also far more harsh than necessary. Giving someone thirty appearances in a season, and then immediately telling them that are unwanted and banishing them from the squad because they didn't take a move away just made no sense to me in terms of man management. Obviously no one cared since Colback is almost universally despised on here. Fwiw, it is best Aarons leaves this year for Newcastle and Rolando himself. He'll be 23 soon and has never played a full first team season. He probably needs to drop down two levels, so he can just play as much as his apparently frail body will let him. Colback had a go at Rafa and told him to f*** off in front of the rest of the squad. Only one way that was going to end. Is that verified? I hadn't heard that account before, tbf, his actions toward would make perfect sense in that context. I thought the original account was that he had turned down a move away that Rafa had arranged for him after deciding he was no longer in his plans. Not in that specific detail as that doesn't happen but was reported by Craig Hope and a few others (not posting links to the likes of the Daily Mail use Google). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Okay, if Saivet's off then it makes sense. But still, same goes for Lazaar. Surely you make as many players available as possible for worst case scenario? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Aye unless there is some logic to it that I'm not seeing, it feels daft and needlessly harsh. Although I guess it gets the message across. Rafa can be cutthroat AF at times. I thought his treatment of Colback last season was also far more harsh than necessary. Giving someone thirty appearances in a season, and then immediately telling them that are unwanted and banishing them from the squad because they didn't take a move away just made no sense to me in terms of man management. Obviously no one cared since Colback is almost universally despised on here. Fwiw, it is best Aarons leaves this year for Newcastle and Rolando himself. He'll be 23 soon and has never played a full first team season. He probably needs to drop down two levels, so he can just play as much as his apparently frail body will let him. Colback had a go at Rafa and told him to fuck off in front of the rest of the squad. Only one way that was going to end. what a little scrotum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 It'll be attitude problems as well as fitness, same with Lazaar, heard murmurings he's an absolute slice. Rafa doesn't tolerate that shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 On the contrary a friend of a friend is his neighbour and apparently he is a very nice young lad (albeit may not see all that much). Said friend of a friend brought along free tickets he got off him for one game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 To avoid confusion, I was talking about Lazaar being a clem, though I do think talent is clearly not the reason Aarons is getting the boot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 To avoid confusion, I was talking about Lazaar being a clem, though I do think talent is clearly not the reason Aarons is getting the boot. Perhaps he's just never recovered from his injuries? As when he's been on the pitch since Pardew did his best to ruin his career he's never really shown anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 A bit harsh on Aarons really, could've kept him around as a back up and i'm sure he's not on high wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Could it be an attitude based decision? Obviously he got charged with assault after a bar brawl (albeit eventually pleaded guilty to affray) and through a combination of injuries and being out of the team just hasn't pushed on anywhere near as much as people expected. Maybe Rafa felt there was something about him detrimental to the rest of the squad? He's proven before if for whatever reason he doesn't want you at the club he'll freeze you out (Colback, Mitrovic) so just seems another example of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Maybe an Mbemba situation where he's not learning/understanding Rafa's tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Or he's just not quite good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rafa-benitez-tells-wantaway-isaac-15043457 “Rolando is one of these young players who needs to play, and Sterry is another one who we can allow to go on loan because they need minutes,” Benitez continued. “They need to play. Rolando is more of a winger and we can manage the situation at left-full-back with the other players we have here; with Clark or Kenedy, which is why Sterry can go. “Still we have [Christian] Atsu, [Jacob] Murphy and [Matt] Ritchie, so we have some wingers. We don’t have another specialist left-back, but we can manage the situation. “At the moment, Saivet and Lazaar are trying to find solutions, while Sterry and Rolando are the other ones who can go, “Lazaar is in Genoa at the moment, in Italy trying to do a deal. It is very close. I don’t have the details of the deal, but they are talking.” https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rafa-benitez-snubs-loan-bids-15043592 “We can allow Rolando Aarons out on loan. Cal Roberts too. “The players that will not play too many minutes and be on the bench.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 He's absolutely shit, just accept it. He showed promise early on but injuries and maybe other things meant that he'll never be a good player at Premier League level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 He's absolutely shit, just accept it. He showed promise early on but injuries and maybe other things meant that he'll never be a good player at Premier League level. Harsh but fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Yep, from my memory he had decent games against City & Palace and not much more in what, 5 years?. He's not good enough by my estimations. Looked god awful this pre-season too, although you can forgive that, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 If only there was anything at all in between 'a good player at Premier League level' and 'absolutely shit'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Championship / League 1, where he'll probably end up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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