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Even at this early stage it's hard to pick out the 3 teams we need to finish above. Burnley look technically poor but at least they're a unit and the graft will see them pick up a few points at home. That said if we had Burnley at the weekend I'd expect to lose. QPR don't look great but could spend in January, Leicester look fairly good and have a goalscorer, Palace have already had a few decent results too. Sunderland look poor but they'll take 6 points from us yet again this season, WBA started poorly but have won 3 in a row and we're already playing catch-up. 

 

It's looking really, really ominous for us and I don't understand why he's still here. Three points out of 18 and we've only played one of the top teams in City. You can write off Arsenal x2, Man U x2, Chelsea x2, Liverpool x2, Everton x2, Spurs x2 as well as City x1. That leaves another 20 other games to get another 37 points just to stay up.

 

We're fucked. Proper fucked.

 

 

Im not even sure we can bounce straight back as easy as last time either.

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Even at this early stage it's hard to pick out the 3 teams we need to finish above. Burnley look technically poor but at least they're a unit and the graft will see them pick up a few points at home. That said if we had Burnley at the weekend I'd expect to lose. QPR don't look great but could spend in January, Leicester look fairly good and have a goalscorer, Palace have already had a few decent results too. Sunderland look poor but they'll take 6 points from us yet again this season, WBA started poorly but have won 3 in a row and we're already playing catch-up. 

 

It's looking really, really ominous for us and I don't understand why he's still here. Three points out of 18 and we've only played one of the top teams in City. You can write off Arsenal x2, Man U x2, Chelsea x2, Liverpool x2, Everton x2, Spurs x2 as well as City x1. That leaves another 20 other games to get another 37 points just to stay up.

 

We're f***ed. Proper f***ed.

 

I did a full league predictor earlier today and had us on 33 points.  Miraculously we stayed up, but we were in the relegation zone all season till the last few games and I doubt in reality 33 points is enough.  We'd need those and to get a few good shock wins, which I don't see how we'll ever get.  When I see a game with Liverpool I just see a game where I wonder how many we'll lose by.  People like Pardew just make football a painful experience for fans.  He's everything that's wrong with the game in England.

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Even at this early stage it's hard to pick out the 3 teams we need to finish above. Burnley look technically poor but at least they're a unit and the graft will see them pick up a few points at home. That said if we had Burnley at the weekend I'd expect to lose. QPR don't look great but could spend in January, Leicester look fairly good and have a goalscorer, Palace have already had a few decent results too. Sunderland look poor but they'll take 6 points from us yet again this season, WBA started poorly but have won 3 in a row and we're already playing catch-up. 

 

It's looking really, really ominous for us and I don't understand why he's still here. Three points out of 18 and we've only played one of the top teams in City. You can write off Arsenal x2, Man U x2, Chelsea x2, Liverpool x2, Everton x2, Spurs x2 as well as City x1. That leaves another 20 other games to get another 37 points just to stay up.

 

We're fucked. Proper fucked.

 

Even with a new manager?

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If Pardew is still here at christmas, we're down. that simple

 

Last season Sunderland had 13 points on the board on Boxing Day and needed a miracle to stay up. I honestly can't see where the next win is coming from, we'll grind a few draws out but actually beating someone seems highly unlikely atm. The fixtures after Burnley at the start of December are automatic losses so unless we can win 4 of the next 6 or something daft like that then we'll be in a worse position than the mackems were last year.  :lol:

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If Pardew is still here at christmas, we're down. that simple

 

Every time I've worried about relegation I've always thought we had enough to get clear of it, apart from when we actually went down.  I knew in the pit of my stomach that nothing at the club was right.  It just felt like a relegation season I'd seen before at so many teams that have gone down.  I feel that exact way right now.  So much is rotten at the club.  The manager is a coward, who couldn't organise himself well enough to put the right amount of sugar in his tea.  Along with that, we have major weaknesses in the team.  We don't score goals and we let them in for fun.  Sooner or later that turns from a decent number of 1-0 wins and 4-0 losses to every game being a 2-1 loss instead.  That's what's happening for the most part this season.  We never look like solidly winning a game.

 

Ingredients for a relegation season:

 

1) Owner who riles up the fans and is ignorant to their needs

2) Manager who very rarely picks the right team, or gets the right tactics

3) Players who look like they know relegation means they'll actually get the move they want, so are not even trying

4) Strikers who don't score goals

5) Midfielders who don't create chances

6) Midfielders who leave the defence exposed

7) Defenders who don't communicate and make idiotic errors

8) Lack of any real team captain/leader

 

We have all those flaws and then some.  It'll take a miracle to sort it all out and we might even go down with a new manager if something isn't done soon.  We'll need to actually appoint someone good to get it fully worked out.  Moyes would get it sorted out in time, if he'd ever come here.  Not sure who else could sort this ramshackle bunch of misfits into a plausible team, but anyone could do better than "We lack someone to run past people because I loaned out Ben Arfa" Pardew.

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Even at this early stage it's hard to pick out the 3 teams we need to finish above. Burnley look technically poor but at least they're a unit and the graft will see them pick up a few points at home. That said if we had Burnley at the weekend I'd expect to lose. QPR don't look great but could spend in January, Leicester look fairly good and have a goalscorer, Palace have already had a few decent results too. Sunderland look poor but they'll take 6 points from us yet again this season, WBA started poorly but have won 3 in a row and we're already playing catch-up. 

 

It's looking really, really ominous for us and I don't understand why he's still here. Three points out of 18 and we've only played one of the top teams in City. You can write off Arsenal x2, Man U x2, Chelsea x2, Liverpool x2, Everton x2, Spurs x2 as well as City x1. That leaves another 20 other games to get another 37 points just to stay up.

 

We're f***ed. Proper f***ed.

 

I think Burnley are the one guaranteed place. They've scored one goal all season, cups included. Their forwards are Marvin Sordell & Ashley Barnes. Togetherness or no, they're gone. The other two relegation spots are anybody's, within reason.

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Even at this early stage it's hard to pick out the 3 teams we need to finish above. Burnley look technically poor but at least they're a unit and the graft will see them pick up a few points at home. That said if we had Burnley at the weekend I'd expect to lose. QPR don't look great but could spend in January, Leicester look fairly good and have a goalscorer, Palace have already had a few decent results too. Sunderland look poor but they'll take 6 points from us yet again this season, WBA started poorly but have won 3 in a row and we're already playing catch-up. 

 

It's looking really, really ominous for us and I don't understand why he's still here. Three points out of 18 and we've only played one of the top teams in City. You can write off Arsenal x2, Man U x2, Chelsea x2, Liverpool x2, Everton x2, Spurs x2 as well as City x1. That leaves another 20 other games to get another 37 points just to stay up.

 

We're f***ed. Proper f***ed.

 

I think Burnley are the one guaranteed place. They've scored one goal all season, cups included. Their forwards are Marvin Sordell & Ashley Barnes. Togetherness or no, they're gone. The other two relegation spots are anybody's, within reason.

 

Aye, I think they'll go but I'm not convinced we, under this fucking clownshoe cunt, could finish above them. The rot's well and truly set in and it'll take months, maybe years, to get things back to what they 'should' be imo.

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Brummie and leffe are great posters we are lucky to have you guys on here :thup:

 

Proper footy fans, even though I like neither of the clubs they support, I wouldn't want them doing awful because I'd feel for these guys. Mind I love Villa Park, my fave away ground. Passed it the other day when working in Wolverhampton, lovely stadium.

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Brummie and leffe are great posters we are lucky to have you guys on here :thup:

 

Proper footy fans, even though I like neither of the clubs they support, I wouldn't want them doing awful because I'd feel for these guys. Mind I love Villa Park, my fave away ground. Passed it the other day when working in Wolverhampton, lovely stadium.

 

Cheers, love you too :lol:.

 

At the risk of this becoming a pathetic love-in, though, it's not entirely luck that we're here. This is a cracking fan site, with a nice mix of ages and attitudes. I can only speak for myself, of course...

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I still think he will be gone by the weekend he looked wrecked last night and I think we all know if he was offered a deal to go you wouldnt see him for dust

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I still think he will be gone by the weekend he looked wrecked last night and I think we all know if he was offered a deal to go you wouldnt see him for dust

 

You'd see flames off the back of his shoes he'd be gone so quick.  Every interview now there's a subtext of behind his "I won't quit I'm a professional football manager."  Basically he's implying "Pay me off, because I'll ride this till I get my money."

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Brummie and leffe are great posters we are lucky to have you guys on here :thup:

 

Proper footy fans, even though I like neither of the clubs they support, I wouldn't want them doing awful because I'd feel for these guys. Mind I love Villa Park, my fave away ground. Passed it the other day when working in Wolverhampton, lovely stadium.

 

Cheers, love you too :lol:.

 

At the risk of this becoming a pathetic love-in, though, it's not entirely luck that we're here. This is a cracking fan site, with a nice mix of ages and attitudes. I can only speak for myself, of course...

 

fuck off

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Brummie and leffe are great posters we are lucky to have you guys on here :thup:

 

Proper footy fans, even though I like neither of the clubs they support, I wouldn't want them doing awful because I'd feel for these guys. Mind I love Villa Park, my fave away ground. Passed it the other day when working in Wolverhampton, lovely stadium.

 

Cheers, love you too :lol:.

 

At the risk of this becoming a pathetic love-in, though, it's not entirely luck that we're here. This is a cracking fan site, with a nice mix of ages and attitudes. I can only speak for myself, of course...

 

f*** off

 

was going to say the same, tbh.

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For me now, this forum is Newcastle United.  f*** the actual club.  f*** the matches.  f*** the staff.  This  forum is the only thing decent about this plague-ridden club.

 

...well, this forum and the fantastic city the club resides in.

 

Aye same here, proper love this place and most posters like me.

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I still think he will be gone by the weekend he looked wrecked last night and I think we all know if he was offered a deal to go you wouldnt see him for dust

 

You'd see flames off the back of his shoes he'd be gone so quick.  Every interview now there's a subtext of behind his "I won't quit I'm a professional football manager."  Basically he's implying "Pay me off, because I'll ride this till I get my money."

 

He also keeps mentioning that he has a contract in interviews which always sounds as if he is reminding Ashley that he won't walk and so will have to be sacked.

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I still think he will be gone by the weekend he looked wrecked last night and I think we all know if he was offered a deal to go you wouldnt see him for dust

 

You'd see flames off the back of his shoes he'd be gone so quick.  Every interview now there's a subtext of behind his "I won't quit I'm a professional football manager."  Basically he's implying "Pay me off, because I'll ride this till I get my money."

 

Definitely!  He looks like someone who will be the world's most relieved man when he eventually gets sacked.  He looked to be in more pieces than a box of broken biscuits last night.

 

I can't believe he's seeing this through really.  I feel like his family and friends would have stepped in and mentioned that he already has money and this can't be good for his health.  It can't be good for anyone physically or mentally to go through this.  It really is a bit of a car crash how the situation has got this far.

 

He also keeps mentioning that he has a contract in interviews which always sounds as if he is reminding Ashley that he won't walk and so will have to be sacked.

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I still think he will be gone by the weekend he looked wrecked last night and I think we all know if he was offered a deal to go you wouldnt see him for dust

 

You'd see flames off the back of his shoes he'd be gone so quick.  Every interview now there's a subtext of behind his "I won't quit I'm a professional football manager."  Basically he's implying "Pay me off, because I'll ride this till I get my money."

 

He also keeps mentioning that he has a contract in interviews which always sounds as if he is reminding Ashley that he won't walk and so will have to be sacked.

 

Definitely!  He looks like someone who will be the world's most relieved man when he eventually gets sacked.  He looked to be in more pieces than a box of broken biscuits last night.

 

I can't believe he's seeing this through really.  I feel like his family and friends would have stepped in and mentioned that he already has money and this can't be good for his health.  It can't be good for anyone physically or mentally to go through this.  It really is a bit of a car crash how the situation has got this far.

 

Made a bit of a cock up with the quote tags on the post before.

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"Alan Pardew will NOT be sacked..."

 

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"...no matter what the result against Swansea...."

 

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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/martin-hardy-mike-ashley-must-act-now-and-end-the-alan-pardew-reign-9765825.html

 

Martin Hardy: Mike Ashley must act now and end the Alan Pardew reign

 

COMMENT: This situation cannot go on any longer. Enough is enough

MARTIN HARDY  Tuesday 30 September 2014

 

“He loves football but he sometimes can’t understand how it works and it confuses and upsets him, and when he is upset he does things that aren’t brilliant for the football club.”

 

These are the words of the Newcastle United manager, Alan Pardew, talking about the club’s owner, Mike Ashley, in October last year on the Goals on Sunday programme. They now feel more relevant than ever.

 

Ashley fumed at the indiscretion back then, but the nature of Newcastle means that Pardew’s point was not addressed. A year later, there is a new, all-engulfing crisis and while Rome burns, Ashley stands defiant. Even his greatest supporter cannot argue that the current situation is brilliant for the football club.

 

There is an isolation to clubs in the North-east. Newcastle has one football team. Sunderland, 13 miles away, has one football team. Middlesbrough, another 20 miles further south, has one football team, and the sense of remoteness and uniqueness – the next nearest big league side is Leeds United – adds to the significance inside each community. The football club is a symbol of regional pride. With that in mind, this situation cannot go on any longer. Enough is enough. Mike Ashley looks on during the game between Stoke City and Newcastle Mike Ashley looks on during the game between Stoke City and Newcastle

 

There have been damaging periods in the seven years that Ashley has been in control at St James’ Park. This new one, however, has left heads being scratched everywhere. Newcastle’s players have forgotten how to play for Pardew. Their record is one win in 14 Premier League games – none this season. Red Adair would usually be expecting a call in such a situation.

 

There have been admirable shows of support towards the manager from Ashley in the near four years Pardew has been in charge. Ashley was gung-ho on his entrance into football in 2007. Sam Allardyce was sacked after a draw at Stoke and Harry Redknapp had agreed to take his place, only to change his mind and Kevin Keegan came in. Along with the decision to appoint Alan Shearer for the final games of the 2008-09 season, they have been the last two populist calls made by Ashley.

 

There is a danger here that, as Pardew suggested, the current policy is a bloody-minded approach to defy public opinion. In that, Ashley denies the brilliant instinct that has made his Sports Direct company such a huge and successful business. Within 72 hours of the Tesco profit error last week, Ashley and Sports Direct had agreed a £43m “bet” (a put-option agreement) to buy shares in Tesco through Goldman Sachs (essentially meaning that Ashley believes the share price will rise). There is instinct in retail and there is inertia in football. Tyneside is incandescent as a result.

 

It has, in all truth, not helped Pardew, who will be stained by this run for the rest of his career, wherever that may be.

 

What has caused such consternation is the lack of desire at least to identify that there is a problem. Newcastle’s bad run started when they sold Yohan Cabaye in January and did not replace him. Everything revolved around the playmaker and loan striker Loïc Rémy. But since Pardew’s headbutt on David Meyler at Hull in March they have won just twice. From a possible 48 points they have mustered nine. They have scored 11 goals in 16 Premier League games and have failed to score on 10 occasions. Newcastle’s players are no longer hearing Pardew’s message. Surely this is apparent.

 

The only belief now inside the boardroom must be that there are worse sides than Newcastle and that at some point the club’s fortunes will turn. Pardew looks likely to remain in charge at Swansea on Saturday. The international break comes next and then they face Leicester at home.

 

There must be dignity. Ashley and Pardew should be discussing a parting of the ways this week. The current situation is crushing him and will be remembered for years.

 

Newcastle have had good times under Pardew. There was an unexpected push for the Champions League. It was only two years ago. They finished fifth, Pardew won awards, the club was back on the European stage. They signed just Vurnon Anita, who is still not a regular in a side second bottom of the Premier League. There was no appetite to kick on.

 

Now there must be a desire to hold on to the Premier League status that sees St James’ Park awash with Sports Direct logos. Change will now surely come – that it should be sooner rather than later looks beyond question.

 

 

 

I think the line in bold sums up where we are at present - anger and frustration that the club seemingly refuse to accept that we are sleepwalking our way into a relegation.

 

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