AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 It doesn't make me feel anything, I hate the way we don't focus on the cups. IMO it should be our number one priority. But it's a problem first with PL football in general, second with Mike Ashley, and only lastly with Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Why would it make me feel better? What an odd thing to say. And players not being arsed/manager performing poorly doesn't equate to the club not being arsed with it. That's a relatively recent phenomenon*. * 2010 I'll give you, difference is we were attempting to actually achieve something in the league that season, win it, and the potential costs of not getting promoted meant it kinda made sense to most. Even then if it wasn't for a laughably slanted refereeing performance we'd have potentially not lost to West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I wasn't talking to you Ian. It makes you feel better to believe Alan Pardew ordained the "cups negatively affect league status" mantra and then we suddenly decided to stop bothering. Because he's gone someone else might come in and say "sod that" and change tact. I fear the reality is - it's been a top down approach for a very long time. Any new manager will have to go against directions from above to make any dent in the cups. Which if having a decent season should be easy enough, surely? But for some reason managers don't do it. Not just ours. We say Pocchettino last year inexplicably play a weaker side in the FA Cup despite easily being the 8th best side in the division for the whole season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Pardew was prepared to go along with the de-prioritisation of the cups but I don't see any reason to believe he was the originator of it. We've been s*** in the cups for my entire lifetime, and certainly haven't cared as long as Ashley has been owner. We first started playing ridiculously weakened teams in the FA cup at Brighton in 12/13 on Pardew's watch. Since then it has been an officially announced club policy. There's a big difference between being shit in the cup as previously and not deciding to bother with it at all Obviously since then the board have taken it to a stupid degree by calculating the bare minimum expense to stay up then uf they fuck everything else off it = maximum profit!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I wasn't talking to you Ian. It makes you feel better to believe Alan Pardew ordained the "cups negatively affect league status" mantra and then we suddenly decided to stop bothering. Because he's gone someone else might come in and say "sod that" and change tact. I fear the reality is - it's been a top down approach for a very long time. Any new manager will have to go against directions from above to make any dent in the cups. Which if having a decent season should be easy enough, surely? But for some reason managers don't do it. Not just ours. We say Pocchettino last year inexplicably play a weaker side in the FA Cup despite easily being the 8th best side in the division for the whole season. No, I completely agree that the policy is unfortunately here to stay under Ashley. I cant ever see a manager capable of saying "sod this I'm going to change this culture" (or with the balls to do it) being employed by this regime. They must've got the idea from somewhere and the only 2 football people we know who Ashley listens to were Pardew and Kinnear, the second was completely discredited and hoyed out on his arse at the end of that season. The whole thing pisses me right off mind. The added bonus to Ashley being that a free weekend in January = players being rested and not at risk of injury coming up to the end of the transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Although I disagree strongly and don't like it, I could get why you would rest players in the league cup because those games are played midweek but I don't get why players need to be rested for the FA Cup (unless perhaps you are in a relegation battle) and why Ashley would be happy with the team having so many 2 week breaks when they could be out there generating some income for him. The one thing that has been proved in the last 2 seasons, is that going out in the 3rd round of the FA Cup allows the team to drift for the rest of the season with nothing to play for. It increases the unrest amongst the fans. At least a cup run would help with that and the likelihood of us getting to a final (and the "dreaded" Europa League) is still quite small. I guess the near relegation when we played in the Europa League hasn't helped but really would a cup run put us in danger. Look at the momentum it created for Sunderland and it probably saved them from relegation. It is a ludricous policy and to continue it will be to kill the season every year in January unless we are in a relegation battle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Dwayne Johnson @TheRock 2 minutes ago Dope & double breasted. (sounds slightly inappropriate) #1Shark #OnSet #BALLERS #HBO Premieres June. The Rock is seemingly a Pardew fan too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I thought the bellend wasn't a fan of "emotional crowds"! “It is an emotional ground. I hope they will be able to transfer that to the Olympic Stadium - I think that is going to be important to West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I see he's still going on about how hard the Europa League is, and how Thursday to Sunday 'isn't fair'. Wednesday to Saturday is perfectly fine of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I see he's still going on about how hard the Europa League is, and how Thursday to Sunday 'isn't fair'. Wednesday to Saturday is perfectly fine of course. I love how this is essentially making excuses for a season that happened 3 years ago. Good riddance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I see he's still going on about how hard the Europa League is, and how Thursday to Sunday 'isn't fair'. Wednesday to Saturday is perfectly fine of course. Yes but he also told us that the Europa League was tougher than the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 When he first went to Crystal Palace he was full of praise for their fans and the atmosphere they create. Now he's reduced to begging them to turn up to watch his team. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2967729/Crystal-Palace-struggle-sell-away-tickets-televised-Premier-League-match-West-Ham-Alan-Pardew-urges-fans-leave-sofa-one.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Allardyce vs Pardew "Whoever wins, we lose" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Allardyce vs Pardew "Whoever wins, we lose" Actually we've won, seen both of those detestable cunts off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 West ham have to win this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Pardew usually chokes against the 'Ammers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Eagles boss Alan Pardew talking to Sky Sports: "The team did so well against Arsenal but I felt the changes were necessary. The captain Jedinak has been knocking on the door and his leadership, experience and guidance is vital. "Glenn Murray coming in? When you have two wide players who can penetrate like we have, you need an experienced finisher in there. It was a tough choice between him and Dwight Gayle, but Murray's experience just edged it for me today. "The agenda for West Ham is to get back to winning ways. It is the same for us. We are both chasing the win. I don't think either of us will settle for a draw." Cuntfeatures is absolutely desperate for West Ham to come at them so he can play counter-attack, because god knows his sides can't break down a side that sits in front of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Blaming the Icelandic group for his mismanagement of Tevez and Mascherano! Saying the group were uncomfortable with the deal! Such a liar :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 How creepy is Steve Parish?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 There are only 3 teams I have mobile score updates turned on: FC Barcelona, Newcastle... and now Crystal Palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I hate that I check their forums on match day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 West ham have to win this Aye. The lower down the league palace are, the more likely the excuse that the players were not good enough, pardle has free reign in the transfer market, hastening theirs and parlde's demise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Not that bothered really, Palace need to go down next season not this one, otherwise it someone else's fault and not Pardew's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 West ham have to win this Aye. The lower down the league palace are, the more likely the excuse that the players were not good enough, pardle has free reign in the transfer market, hastening theirs and parlde's demise. I'd be uncomfortable with Pardle being out of work again until we have sorted our own manager situation out 100%. I couldn't face having him back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 3-0 to the Pards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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