Guest awaymag Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Well, took my 3 kids (8,6 and 4 years old) to their first Newcastle game (and mine since the man city game about 2 years ago) and we had a great day with the little one asking all the time - who wins and why dont they show the replays. Think I need to stop him watching the tv so much Have to say I think the team is weak as p*ss. We were so poor in the tackle and Riveire? never won a header or held the ball up once. It is so clear that we need strikers and defenders.....and some midfielders that are direct and actually run at the opposing team (Ben Arfa anyone). Aaron did that and CP went on the back foot and the crowd showed their support. Oh and the atmosphere at St James park has gone to the dogs.........CP were singing from the 1st minute (goal helps obviously) but we couldnt be bothered to respond and drown them out. I think most are turning up out of duty and habit but have had the hope and excitement drained out of them the last couple of years. I'll be back with the kids as they loved it but I have to say - it will be another season of nothingness unfortunately. Mid to low table and you can forget about any cup - as soon as this side meets a top 8 team or a premiership side at home - its bye-bye!. If only Mike would splash £50M of the TV money in the next 3 days - we could then get 2 strikers and 2 defenders. That would make a hell of a difference. My final prediction - I bet Ben Arfa is back in the 1st team by end of Sept.........Pardew will be begging him to save his Newcastle job! Haway the Lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Agree. I'm not his biggest fan or biggest hater but he's an important player for sure. Has his weaknesses but today nobody just sat in front of the defence and took responsibility to protect the back four and retain possession. Colback and Sissoko seemed intent on who could cover more ground, neither offered us much really, suppose Colback at least put a few tackles in, same can't be said for Sissoko, soft as shite! A rare agree on this one although Colback even when he did put a tackle in rarely made the foul or came away with the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Just give us a new manager and I'll be happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Sissoko doesn't have the disciple to play as a central midfielder in our team in my opinion. Can't remember a single good game he's had there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Our defense was poor but Sissoko and Colback can not control a game. Said before the game this would happen. Neither of them know how to drop deep, recycle possession and make themselves available for a pass. Anita is the best we have at that but Tiote is much better at it than the two who played today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Sissoko doesn't have the disciple to play as a central midfielder in our team in my opinion. Can't remember a single good game he's had there Jesus likes this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Predictive text Discipline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Just listened to the total sport interview. Talk of finance and losing a few to make room. Bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 When was the last time three Newcastle players scored their first goals for the club in the same game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Just listened to the total sport interview. Talk of finance and losing a few to make room. Bollocks. We could do with losing a few. Jonas Gutierrez, Haris Vučkić and Shane Ferguson for example. Pardew probably means Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Back from the game. Abominable defending. Absolutely gutless game and lucky to get a point. We just don't know how to play football at this level and unless a significant improvement is made we will be in a relegation fight. Our defense was poor but Sissoko and Colback can not control a game. Colback is alright but does not dominate and we were vulnerable to too many counter attacks. Anita needs to be in the middle and Sissoko should not be in the holding pair, too much of a liability for losing possession. What is this love in with Anita I don't know, he is better than Colback but honestly he is not the answer either. He creates nothing, does not score goals and is as weak as p*ss and is easily outmuscled. As with Colback it takes nothing to be able to pass the ball 10 to 15 yards forward and backwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 He keeps possession better than sissoko and that keeps our defense safer. I agree he creates nothing but we have no midfielders who can create from deep anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Where was Mehdi Abeid today? Apparently he was one of our best players against Gillingham but he didn't make the match squad today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Predictive text Discipline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 There's no love in ffs, he's just a lot better at sitting deep, recycling possession and making himself available for a pass than either Sissoko or Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 He keeps possession better than sissoko and that keeps our defense safer. I agree he creates nothing but we have no midfielders who can create from deep anymore. I am not Sissoko's biggest fan either for me our centre midfield should be Tiote and a playmaking goal scoring new signing - won't happen though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Where was Mehdi Abeid today? Apparently he was one of our best players against Gillingham but he didn't make the match squad today. Is there need for him & Anita on the same bench? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 There's no love in ffs, he's just a lot better at sitting deep, recycling possession and making himself available for a pass than either Sissoko or Colback. Do you really think he does as I don't see it as I said anyone can pass the ball 10 - 15 yards it's not going to win you games and he is just too easily outmuscled for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Back from the game. Abominable defending. Absolutely gutless game and lucky to get a point. We just don't know how to play football at this level and unless a significant improvement is made we will be in a relegation fight. Our defense was poor but Sissoko and Colback can not control a game. Colback is alright but does not dominate and we were vulnerable to too many counter attacks. Anita needs to be in the middle and Sissoko should not be in the holding pair, too much of a liability for losing possession. What is this love in with Anita I don't know, he is better than Colback but honestly he is not the answer either. He creates nothing, does not score goals and is as weak as p*ss and is easily outmuscled. As with Colback it takes nothing to be able to pass the ball 10 to 15 yards forward and backwards. Anita is a good footballer in the totally wrong system, he is good at ticking things over and would be great in a team that plays football, passing the ball and moving - basically not us. You need players like that as much as fancy fuckers creating - it takes a healthy balance to win games. I have actually been impressed by how accurate Colback is with his passing and availability for the ball, I thought he was total garbage but has been our best player (Mind that says a lot) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 There's no love in ffs, he's just a lot better at sitting deep, recycling possession and making himself available for a pass than either Sissoko or Colback. Do you really think he does as I don't see it as I said anyone can pass the ball 10 - 15 yards it's not going to win you games and he is just too easily outmuscled for me. Sissoko can't, neither can half our team judging by today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Williamson was fucking tripe apart from his goal. This will be the summation of his NUFC career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 There's no love in ffs, he's just a lot better at sitting deep, recycling possession and making himself available for a pass than either Sissoko or Colback. Do you really think he does as I don't see it as I said anyone can pass the ball 10 - 15 yards it's not going to win you games and he is just too easily outmuscled for me. Sissoko can't, neither can half our team judging by today Shankly transformed an ordinary Liverpool team into legends due to his pass and move philosophy. Do you think Pardew would have done that with the same players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 There's no love in ffs, he's just a lot better at sitting deep, recycling possession and making himself available for a pass than either Sissoko or Colback. Do you really think he does as I don't see it as I said anyone can pass the ball 10 - 15 yards it's not going to win you games and he is just too easily outmuscled for me. Never said it does, but the midfield has to be balanced. The two today like to run a lot aimlessly but no one who dictates the tempo from deep. It's fine to have one of Colback and Sissoko but not both, they need to have Anita or Tiote behind them to give them the ball when things are going well and slow it down when things are not. Not saying the situation is perfect and we can't improve on the current options, but one of Tiote or Anita should always play until we are able to acquire better options. Having two midfielders who don't understand how to play deep is asking for trouble and moronic on the managers behalf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 There's no love in ffs, he's just a lot better at sitting deep, recycling possession and making himself available for a pass than either Sissoko or Colback. Do you really think he does as I don't see it as I said anyone can pass the ball 10 - 15 yards it's not going to win you games and he is just too easily outmuscled for me. Sissoko can't, neither can half our team judging by today I agree and with Colback, Anita and Sissoko in the middle of the pitch in whatever two play together, you will not win games as in my opinion they offer nothing offensively and defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 There's no love in ffs, he's just a lot better at sitting deep, recycling possession and making himself available for a pass than either Sissoko or Colback. Do you really think he does as I don't see it as I said anyone can pass the ball 10 - 15 yards it's not going to win you games and he is just too easily outmuscled for me. Never said it does, but the midfield has to be balanced. The two today like to run a lot aimlessly but no one who dictates the tempo from deep. It's fine to have one of Colback and Sissoko but not both, they need to have Anita or Tiote behind them to give them the ball when things are going well and slow it down when things are not. Not saying the situation is perfect and we can't improve on the current options, but one of Tiote or Anita should always play until we are able to acquire better options. Having two midfielders who don't understand how to play deep is asking for trouble and moronic on the managers behalf. Isn't Colback supposed to be a deep lying midfielder? I was under the impression that's the position he's been picked to play for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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