KaKa Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 If he had a say our squad would be worse far worse Bents and Sidwells everywhere! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Shearer's not wrong about the folly of our behaviour in the transfer market. Doesn't excuse Pardew though. Exactly this. I don't believe for a second that Pardew has no say in who comes in. He obviously has no say when Ashley decides to cash in on our best players, that's what he signed up for, he was brought in as a yes man. But, he was clearly involved in bringing in the players we did this summer. If he had his way we'd be buying mediocre English players rather than foreign bargains just for resale value purposes. Not saying we would be better off mind. Edit: what KaKa said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Even if he doesn't have a say who comes in,when your given an experienced International right back who played in the World Cup semi-final,and a creative French International midfielder,it must make things so much harder. Poor 'ol Pards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 And that has been my argument against this charlatan for years - no matter if he hasn't got the players he wants he's been supplied with players that are good enough to put together a team that has some sort of shape and actually look like they know each other. Instead we've had season upon season of random results mixing a win based on nothing but individual skill with complete collapses like today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Not surprised Shearer said that though. These guys don't follow other leagues, and know about players outside the prem. Archaic approach to the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Obvs didn't watch today as it was nice out and didn't want to ruin my day but how was it in terms of last season as a barometer? MOTD looked almost as bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Actually think it was worse Seemed like all their goals were just scored at a leisurely pace with hardly any sweat involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Yeah it was horrendous. We looked totally rattled from the get-go and they pressed us very high, meaning we never settled. Koeman did good tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Our players need a massive lift and they'll not get that from Pardew, his position is untenable and I don't think he'll see out the month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Yeah it was horrendous. We looked totally rattled from the get-go and they pressed us very high, meaning we never settled. Koeman did good tactics. you'd be a daft manager not to do that to us these days. Average players who have nen confidence in an awful system should be done in every week. Palace should've done it at SJP instead of sitting back all, hopefully Hull don't do the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Yeah it was horrendous. We looked totally rattled from the get-go and they pressed us very high, meaning we never settled. Koeman did good tactics. you'd be a daft manager not to do that to us these days. Average players who have nen confidence in an awful system should be done in every week. Palace should've done it at SJP instead of sitting back all, hopefully Hull don't do the same. Although it did seem laughable that Pardew blamed the fans for the performance, we looked totally shot and it did probably have something to do with it. Good on all those who went down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 It was worse than last year. It honestly looked like Colo and Williamson were trying to throw the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 It felt like watching that infamous Souness game all over again to me. The players looked done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Player revolt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/hEGRuPY.jpg Turns out it was Habib Beye carrying a Wii remote, tackled by Ashley himself in one of those novelty Scottish wigs. :lol: I've just woken up me dad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 The players are disgustingly average and have probably hopped on the I can't be chewed bang bus rather than any revolt like thus making them look like a bunch of amateurs. Club is an absolute horrorshow from top to bottom and it couldn't be more obvious in everything it does currently. As a normal fan it's fucking rank, as a sane man it's so enjoyable watching Pardew and to a lesser extent Ashley squirm like little boys who've shat their pants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 If Ashley is saying he's not selling at any price until 2016 or whatever, then he has to make a move now, surely? He may soon be left with no option but to sell at a loss if we go down. If he's any kind of businessman he's got to be thinking about his future potential income now, he's fucked big time if we go down. He has to either change manager or sell up, trouble with the former is he's currently stating he wants to promote from within (so he doesn't have to spend, the tight, fat cunt) which doesn't leave him with many options and not much hope of staying up. His man, his loyal little fuckwit, is doing him over big time at the minute and looks set to continue doing so. Ashley doesn't seem to have a move to make at present, even though everyone else knows. It's a colossal mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 In this business Ashley has proven himself to be a total moron though and will think that throwing money at the problem in January will save us again or we will come straight back up again when we're relegated as it happened the last time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/hEGRuPY.jpg Turns out it was Habib Beye carrying a Wii remote, tackled by Ashley himself in one of those novelty Scottish wigs. :lol: I've just woken up me dad Laughed out very loud at this :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 It was worse than last year. It honestly looked like Colo and Williamson were trying to throw the game. By that standard they've been trying to throw most of our games since late 2012. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Whoever that commentator was p*ssed me off more than the game did. What a f***ing idiot. He thinks we don't like Pardew because "he's not from the North East" and that we expect to finish 5th every season. f*** off and look at the facts. A complete idiot and fully-paid up member of the Footballing Brotherhood that believes fans are only there to pay his wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Even if they players are not good enough, the team should a least look organized and not a shambles... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 What gets me is that he supposedly works on defensive shape four days a week in training and that's the end product Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I don't want to defend the bloke one bit because he sets us up all wrong and clearly can't motivate the players, but a lot of 'us' for a long time have been in utter denial about just how bad our defenders are. Coloccini, Williamson and Haidara (at this extremely raw stage of his career) wouldn't get into many if any PL teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Another example of how this useless individual and his 'coaching' staff have produced a team totally unsuited to PL football. How anyone can defend Pardew on the grounds that Ashley keeps him short of money clearly either hasn't looked at Pardew's past record as a manager(initial modicum of success followed by predictable mediocrity and hostility from the supporters of whichever unfortunate club he happens to have conned into giving him a job) or has a vested interest in keeping the club on track for a return to the Championship - a place from which they may take a long time to exit. Today's game was a total shambles and Pardew has clearly lost the Dressing Room - Williamson was unbelievably bad, responsible for 3 goals, Colo went through the motions and for me, only Haidara looked anything like a threat or as if he was trying as a Pro. Sissoko appears on the scene now and again and you have to say that there IS a player in there...but NOT under this manager, a description you could use for many of the team. Cabella looks lightweight at this level and Riviere missed an easy chance for which we may turn out to be grateful ; Janmaat IS decent but again, would benefit from a manager who was more tactically astute and capable of organising a side. We all know that the club is going nowhere under Ashley, but we could at least be seeing better and more successful football if the players were motivated properly which they clearly aren't now. Nevertheless, I will be surprised if Ashley fires the main culprit any time soon - at least, until the bookies start giving better odds and he can make some pocket money by firing Pardew when his odds to survive creep back up. Such are the people running Newcastle United...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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