Tiresias Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 My biggest worry was if we could find a decent manager who could live with ashley's philosopy, that reassures me he would survive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Maybe venables is being sounded out as a DOF? In NUFC DOF means Defender Of Fatty, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Why are people talking about Venables man, because he was watching Chelsea play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Why are people talking about Venables man, because he was watching Chelsea play? His body language suggested he was thinking about something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 This shit is killing me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 He hasn't been in management for over a decade fwiw. Will Should not happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 They will give Carver the job if he beats Southampton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 There's no rush, like. We're still ten points above the drop zone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Oh ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 and still in the January window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 It's Lee Ryder. He had no clue about Pardew nearing the door weeks ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 True Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The club also didn't confirm Pardew was going until DAYS later and I assume they'll do the same about the manager until it's signed and in stone and they can tell people it's complete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Sky sports have just said we have spoken to him and two other potential candidates. We haven't offered him the job yet as we are to speak to one more candidate in the next 24 hours. f*** that man, just get Garde in. Disagree tbh. It surely depends who the other candidates are. I'd be pleased with Garde, but if the other 3 we're interviewing are even better then I'm happy to wait. To be realistic about Garde, he took over Lyon 3 years after they'd won Ligue 1 for SEVEN consecutive years. His win record of 51% is good, but not spectacular. In the years before Garde took over and after their streak of 7 titles, Lyon finished 3rd, then 2nd, then 3rd again. Then the Garde years: 2011-2012 - 4th - 64pts - Europa League group stages 2012-2013 - 3rd - 67pts - CL qualification 2013-2014 - 5th - 61pts - Only just qualifying for the Europa League To mitigate that, of course he had boatloads of players sold. But the overall trajectory seems to be (very slowly) downwards and currently, without Garde, Lyon are 2nd. Don't misunderstand me, I'd be happy with him. But I don't see him as some kind of miracle appointment who we just MUST get. That said, I know virtually nothing of French football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Exactly, Lee Ryder just repeats what he may hear elsewhere, where as SSN is no longer the standard bearer for footballing news. Foreign and (some) social media outlets are becoming far more reliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Sky are just trying to spice up what's probably quite a boring story to them. Reminds me of one of the January transfer windows where they claimed a mystery club had activated Diame's West Ham release clause and then nothing happened and nothing more was said. If there were other candidates they'd have named them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 You do realize this coincided with (1) PSG takeover and massive investment in players and Ancelotti and Blanc (2) THAT Lille team that had Cabaye, Hazard, Debuchy, Sow and Gervinho led by Rudi Garcia (3) THAT Montpellier team that had Giroud, Cabella, Belhanda, Stamboulli and MYM led by Rene Girard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Sky sports have just said we have spoken to him and two other potential candidates. We haven't offered him the job yet as we are to speak to one more candidate in the next 24 hours. f*** that man, just get Garde in. Disagree tbh. It surely depends who the other candidates are. I'd be pleased with Garde, but if the other 3 we're interviewing are even better then I'm happy to wait. To be realistic about Garde, he took over Lyon 3 years after they'd won Ligue 1 for SEVEN consecutive years. His win record of 51% is good, but not spectacular. In the years before Garde took over and after their streak of 7 titles, Lyon finished 3rd, then 2nd, then 3rd again. Then the Garde years: 2011-2012 - 4th - 64pts - Europa League group stages 2012-2013 - 3rd - 67pts - CL qualification 2013-2014 - 5th - 61pts - Only just qualifying for the Europa League To mitigate that, of course he had boatloads of players sold. But the overall trajectory seems to be (very slowly) downwards and currently, without Garde, Lyon are 2nd. Don't misunderstand me, I'd be happy with him. But I don't see him as some kind of miracle appointment who we just MUST get. That said, I know virtually nothing of French football. That's kinda the point isn't it? Before Garde they were paying big money for top players Afterwards they developed all the talent from within and sold them as soon as they became good. Also ask any french journo and they will tell you that they are doing well this season as a result of Garde's good work. No one is saying he's some kind of miracle appointment, just that he fits exactly what we need and miles better than anything we believed to be possible under Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 The club are probably not happy that their meeting Garde has got out and I can imagine that they will put out different stories to try and deflect attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Pretty even point haul over 3 years too. despite no spending and all sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Never realized Lyon had won Ligue 1 7 years in a row, staggering. There were always some good French teams too, Marseille, Monaco, PSG in spurts too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 seem like the only thing could delay garde's appointment is waiting till the transfer window shuts. only thing that could possibly stop it altogether would be his wage demands or his choice of coaching team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 You do realize this coincided with (1) PSG takeover and massive investment in players and Ancelotti and Blanc (2) THAT Lille team that had Cabaye, Hazard, Debuchy, Sow and Gervinho led by Rudi Garcia (3) THAT Montpellier team that had Giroud, Cabella, Belhanda, Stamboulli and MYM led by Rene Girard. This basically. Brillant. People tend to look at results and statistics without taking into account all of the elements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Pretty standard practice to interview more than one candidate. Let's not panic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I love the internet. People somehow managing to turn what I wrote into some kind of anti-Garde piece when I clearly said, twice, that I'd be happy with him. For absolute clarity: I'd be happy with him. To further clarify what I was trying to say: I don't mind if the appointment process takes longer, provided we appoint the best candidate. If that's not Garde because we find someone better, then fucking great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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