Andymc1 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 It's an absolute scandal what they've been doing at Rangers. It's an absolute scandal what they've been doing at Newcastle. But, we welcome them with open arms and even allow them to attend games with not a word muttered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Apparently they have to pay us £500k if they go up. :yao: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 It's an absolute scandal what they've been doing at Rangers. No, no, perfectly OK to leverage your stooge onto the board of another company of which you're a minority shareholder, and then arrange deals that are heavily structured against that company in order to push them closer to requiring your financial backing and tighten your grip on said company. Everyone does it man, just business, can't see the problem. /TCD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 It's an absolute scandal what they've been doing at Rangers. It's an absolute scandal what they've been doing at Newcastle. But, we welcome them with open arms and even allow them to attend games with not a word muttered. SUPORT DA TEEM NOT DA REGEEYM PAL! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Best part is they only get 350k prize money for promotion as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Apparently they have to pay us £500k if they go up. http://i.imgur.com/K222mw9.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 We are probably still paying their wages and Rangers I'm sure didn't pay a loan fee, so it's basically 100k per player IF they get promoted. If they don't get promoted which is highly likely, then they pay nowt, for 5 players of a higher quality than most of your squad for 6 months. The fact that are all bar Vuckic injured is unfortunate but I have little sympathy for Rangers tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 It's not really "unfortunate" if we knew they were fucked from day 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 played them like a cheap fucking banjo man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 It's not really "unfortunate" if we knew they were f***ed from day 1. No such thing as a free lunch, amateurs !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 They are/were basically controlled by the same people we're controlled by. Of course they're amateurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 From a Rangers forum (someone with common sense for a change): 1. If someone had said in Jan when promotion was looking like a distant dream that we could get 5 loan players in with no upfront loan fee's but the cost would be £500k and that would only be payable if we achieved promotion, then I can guarantee that most of us would have been happy to take the gamble and at that point it would have been madness to even consider saying no with the increased revenue that promotion will bring being way in excess of the £500k. Just keep the deal in that context and I'm sure we would all have been very happy and seen it as a good bit of business. 2. The second issue is where we have the real problem and that's the suitability and availability of the five players themselves but even then its not something we can fully appraise until the end of the season. Three of the loans will probably never kick a ball, one may come back from injury but who knows but what if that last player is the difference between promotion and another year in this league! Is it a price worth paying if one of those loans actually makes the difference and gets a hat-trick against Hibs in the play-off and scores a last minute wonder goal against Motherwell to send us up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I don't really like Rangers but the way Ashley has fucked them over is a disgrace tbh. He's taken advantage of every single situation possible purely for his own good. The only good coming out of the shambles is that even more people know exactly what Ashley is capable of and his selfish motives for every decision he makes. Don't have a good enough vocabulary to even begin to describe the bloke, "cretinous scum" doesn't even get close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I think targeting Rangers was a strategic error from Ashley really, although TBF that's in hindsight. At the time I expected him to have rolled his Sports Direct mugs onto their lawn by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 From a Rangers forum (someone with common sense for a change): 1. If someone had said in Jan when promotion was looking like a distant dream that we could get 5 loan players in with no upfront loan fee's but the cost would be £500k and that would only be payable if we achieved promotion, then I can guarantee that most of us would have been happy to take the gamble and at that point it would have been madness to even consider saying no with the increased revenue that promotion will bring being way in excess of the £500k. Just keep the deal in that context and I'm sure we would all have been very happy and seen it as a good bit of business. On the 31st Jan they were 2nd, 16pts from 1st and 6pts from 5th (with 3 games in hand) (wouldn't get in playoffs) http://www.statto.com/football/stats/scotland/championship/2014-2015/table/2015-01-31 Today they are 3rd, 26pts from 1st and 9pts from 5th (1 game in hand) http://www.statto.com/football/stats/scotland/championship/2014-2015/table/2015-03-28 What a turnaround! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 From a Rangers forum (someone with common sense for a change): 1. If someone had said in Jan when promotion was looking like a distant dream that we could get 5 loan players in with no upfront loan fee's but the cost would be £500k and that would only be payable if we achieved promotion, then I can guarantee that most of us would have been happy to take the gamble and at that point it would have been madness to even consider saying no with the increased revenue that promotion will bring being way in excess of the £500k. Just keep the deal in that context and I'm sure we would all have been very happy and seen it as a good bit of business. On the 31st Jan they were 2nd, 16pts from 1st and 6pts from 5th (with 3 games in hand) (wouldn't get in playoffs) http://www.statto.com/football/stats/scotland/championship/2014-2015/table/2015-01-31 Today they are 3rd, 26pts from 1st and 9pts from 5th (1 game in hand) http://www.statto.com/football/stats/scotland/championship/2014-2015/table/2015-03-28 What a turnaround! At the end of January they were in a tailspin and looking like very probably dropping out of even the playoff places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 From a Rangers forum (someone with common sense for a change): 1. If someone had said in Jan when promotion was looking like a distant dream that we could get 5 loan players in with no upfront loan fee's but the cost would be £500k and that would only be payable if we achieved promotion, then I can guarantee that most of us would have been happy to take the gamble and at that point it would have been madness to even consider saying no with the increased revenue that promotion will bring being way in excess of the £500k. Just keep the deal in that context and I'm sure we would all have been very happy and seen it as a good bit of business. On the 31st Jan they were 2nd, 16pts from 1st and 6pts from 5th (with 3 games in hand) (wouldn't get in playoffs) http://www.statto.com/football/stats/scotland/championship/2014-2015/table/2015-01-31 Today they are 3rd, 26pts from 1st and 9pts from 5th (1 game in hand) http://www.statto.com/football/stats/scotland/championship/2014-2015/table/2015-03-28 What a turnaround! Aye but the team was depleted and they looked awful. Recent events off the pitch and the win over Hibs has really boosted morale. Things are looking much better now than they were in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I don't really like Rangers but the way Ashley has f***ed them over is a disgrace tbh. He's taken advantage of every single situation possible purely for his own good. The only good coming out of the shambles is that even more people know exactly what Ashley is capable of and his selfish motives for every decision he makes. Don't have a good enough vocabulary to even begin to describe the bloke, "cretinous scum" doesn't even get close. Has he really fucked them over or did he save them ?? Where'd they be without his loans ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I don't really like Rangers but the way Ashley has f***ed them over is a disgrace tbh. He's taken advantage of every single situation possible purely for his own good. The only good coming out of the shambles is that even more people know exactly what Ashley is capable of and his selfish motives for every decision he makes. Don't have a good enough vocabulary to even begin to describe the bloke, "cretinous scum" doesn't even get close. Has he really f***ed them over or did he save them ?? Where'd they be without his loans ?? He's fucked them man. Long term contracts that they can't get out of and loans came with massive benefits to him. King could have been in a lot earlier if it wasn't for Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Imagine taking time out of your day to stick up for Mike fucking Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I don't really like Rangers but the way Ashley has fucked them over is a disgrace tbh. He's taken advantage of every single situation possible purely for his own good. The only good coming out of the shambles is that even more people know exactly what Ashley is capable of and his selfish motives for every decision he makes. Don't have a good enough vocabulary to even begin to describe the bloke, "cretinous scum" doesn't even get close. I'd feel for them but if theres any club where karma owes them a good smackdown it is rangers so fuck em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I don't really like Rangers but the way Ashley has f***ed them over is a disgrace tbh. He's taken advantage of every single situation possible purely for his own good. The only good coming out of the shambles is that even more people know exactly what Ashley is capable of and his selfish motives for every decision he makes. Don't have a good enough vocabulary to even begin to describe the bloke, "cretinous scum" doesn't even get close. Has he really f***ed them over or did he save them ?? Where'd they be without his loans ?? He's f***ed them man. Long term contracts that they can't get out of and loans came with massive benefits to him. King could have been in a lot earlier if it wasn't for Ashley. Toon Pack says: King HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Invisible when they were in Admin, made their situation worse by encouraging the "stay away", he held the door open for Ashley man!. Oh aye, King was also on the board that led them to oblivion. Why shouldn't loans have benefits, why didn't King offer them loans which were being sought in a panic WAAAAY before Ashley. Why didn't King underwrite the last share issue (that was under subscribed) he could have been in control back then. Facts are: Ashley lent them money interest free but nailed the retail on the back of that, yet, last Rangers Retail accounts show the retail profit doubled from the year before. Oh aye, he's got them screwed down for his benefit BUT without him they'd have been fucked months ago. We know Ashley's a cunt, but he's not a glib and shameless convicted criminal. It's pretty plain to see if you can look at it dispassionately and ignore the spin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Don't you have better things to do with your time, Derek? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maybe_next_year Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 The only thing that has surprised me about the rangers situation is that, Ashley has found a way to fuck them up for his own benefit in a way that's even more obvious than it is with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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