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Pata Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 9 hours ago, Yorkie said: One for the Daft Questions thread but why is the population of a country stacked against the success of its national team? I don't really see how it has any relevance. Croatia is a developed country where football is massively popular and is also surrounded by countries where it's massively popular there too. How is it astonishing that out of a pool of 4 million they've found 11 who are really good? Because they are competing with countries that have 10-20x the population and it's just mathematics, extremely talented player is much more likely to be born in the countries with that much bigger population. Brazil that they knocked out have over 200 million people. Croatia is also really good at many other team sports (basketball, handball, water polo) so it's not a sure thing that the most talented kids choose football. I honestly have no idea how they can be as good as they are in so many sports. It's just really hard for smaller countries that also have to compete with other sports. Teemu Pukki is easily Finland's best footballer after the golden generation of Litmanen, Hyypiä and co. At the same time period we have produced a lot of world class ice hockey players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) Never understand the hate ronaldo gets its insane i hope he gets a club who can still fight for titles etc because he isn't done he has a different personalty agreed but thats what makes him,Messi never got wrote off when he failed at psg in his first season and isn't even psgs best player. Yet Ronaldo has been wrote off after being the 2nd top goal scorer in an elite league and saved man u time and time again at the age of 36/37,Yet messi has had what 5 finals with Argentina and spat his dummy out after losing.I Rate messi i'd be a fool to not but what Ronaldo has done for Portugal is unreal he is the goat...Bring of the hate p.s..I also think Ronaldo gets a lot of hate for playing in England,We have very toxic media here and Ronaldo always sells Edited December 11, 2022 by astraguy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, astraguy said: Never understand the hate Rolando gets its insane i hope he gets a club who can still fight for titles etc because he isn't done he has a different personalty agreed but thats what makes him,Messi never got wrote off when he failed at psg in his first season and isn't even psgs best player. Yet Rolando has been wrote off after being the 2nd top goal scorer in an elite league and saved man u time and time again at the age of 36/37,Yet messi has had what 5 finals with Argentina and spat his dummy out after losing.I Rate messi i'd be a fool to not but what Rolando has done for Portugal is unreal he is the goat...Bring of the hate p.s..I also think Rolando gets a lot of hate for playing in England,We have very toxic media here and Rolando always sells Rolando is on loan at Motherwell and has played under 60 minutes in the past two seasons, think he's done at the top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 These no matchdays have been absolutely disgusting. I can't remember my life before 5am kickoffs, but I know it wasn't better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) I went to a few games at the CONIFA World Cup in London a few years ago. Basically a tournament for unrecognised national teams. As the teams were paying/being funded to travel so far to play in the tournament they had a playout system for those knocked out to decide every single placing from 1-16 and to keep them involved. I feel like a similar system for the World Cup would be desirable for the likes of Mike and Wullie who suffer severe withdrawal symptoms. Edited December 11, 2022 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Pata said: Rolando is on loan at Motherwell and has played under 60 minutes in the past two seasons, think he's done at the top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Whaaaaaatttt?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 13 hours ago, Mike said: These no matchdays have been absolutely disgusting. I can't remember my life before 5am kickoffs, but I know it wasn't better. This avatar man, please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Magpie said: Whaaaaaatttt?? He was a fucking joke him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I know I'm in the minority here, but I thought Sampaio was fine. He just about got all the major decisions correct (with the assistance of VAR) and while he did miss the odd foul, he wasn't particularly bad at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I know I'm in the minority here, but I thought Sampaio was fine. He just about got all the major decisions correct (with the assistance of VAR) and while he did miss the odd foul, he wasn't particularly bad at all. He was absolutely atrocious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Can't knock the world class trolling from Mike. What a piece of shit. In other news; despite my frustration re England I'm still very excited for the conclusion of the tournament. Absolutely salivating at the prospect of an Argentina/Morocco final. What a story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I know I'm in the minority here, but I thought Sampaio was fine. He just about got all the major decisions correct (with the assistance of VAR) and while he did miss the odd foul, he wasn't particularly bad at all. Also the two (2!) penalties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Magpie said: He was absolutely atrocious Don't get me wrong, I didn't think he was particularly good, but he wasn't atrocious either. Just didn't really notice him other than one tackle on Saka that he missed. Obviously he should have given the second penalty without the help of VAR, but in the first instance it did look like Mount went down rather easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Magpie said: That and the first goal were two blatant fouls and the worst of it, like. No idea why he seemed to single out Saka as someone who was gonna get no protection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 If Newcastle had scored the first goal, I'd be absolutely fizzing if it was disallowed. It was just weak from Saka, who'd potentially already lost his footing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, The Prophet said: If Newcastle had scored the first goal, I'd be absolutely fizzing if it was disallowed. It was just weak from Saka, who'd potentially already lost his footing. Nah that's utter shite like, blatant foul that should have been given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Magpie said: Nah that's utter shite like, blatant foul that should have been given. Where's the foul though? The defender doesn't put his hands on him, lean into him or trip him. Saka loses his balance, then when he realises he's lost the ball, flops to that ground in an attempt to win the free kick. It didn't look a foul in the first instance and it certainly wasn't enough to overturn at VAR. I was far more annoyed with the lack of pressure from our midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I can't get my head around how you'd not see the challenge on Saka before their goal as a foul like. He goes through the man to get the ball. That gets given as a foul 9 times out of 10. The others on Kane and Saka were even worse. He was shocking yet still not as bad as the Argentina v Netherlands ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I’d be annoyed if it was Newcastle because pulling goals back from things that happened half a minute earlier is shite, but it was blatantly a foul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) The defender doesn't go through Saka though. I'll not labour the point, as it's obviously subjective, but the defender just puts him under a bit of pressure. It certainly isn't clear or blatent. Edited December 12, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 18 hours ago, astraguy said: Never understand the hate ronaldo gets its insane i hope he gets a club who can still fight for titles etc because he isn't done he has a different personalty agreed but thats what makes him,Messi never got wrote off when he failed at psg in his first season and isn't even psgs best player. Yet Ronaldo has been wrote off after being the 2nd top goal scorer in an elite league and saved man u time and time again at the age of 36/37,Yet messi has had what 5 finals with Argentina and spat his dummy out after losing.I Rate messi i'd be a fool to not but what Ronaldo has done for Portugal is unreal he is the goat...Bring of the hate p.s..I also think Ronaldo gets a lot of hate for playing in England,We have very toxic media here and Ronaldo always sells The point is Man-U got worse even though Ronaldo individually had some decent numbers on the surface, there were large periods where he was poor and so were Man-U What has Ronaldo done with Portugal that Messi hasn't with Argentina? Messi's best tournaments with Argentina surpass the best Ronaldo has managed for Portugal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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