Mr. Slugworth Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 We'll only sell Cisse if they get the price they want for him. This lot don't care about having a balanced squad, only value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 That's the shit thing about signing Austin, we'll just sell Cisse so it isn't much of an addition. Austin, Mitrovic & Ayoze would be enough to go in to the season with. Cisse would be an added bonus, but he's shown he cannot be relied on as a main striker. If I had to choose one it would be Austin all day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Does anyone know how many of Austin's goals were from the penalty spot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberts Mustache Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Does anyone know how many of Austin's goals were from the penalty spot? Three according to this: http://www.transfermarkt.com/charlie-austin/elfmetertore/spieler/129627/plus/?saison_id=2014&wettbewerb_id=GB1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 We won't keep Cisse if we sign Austin. I doubt it too and question whether its an upgrade, but I think we could offload Cisse at very short notice if Austin goes close to the deadline. Which means that we can wait for QPR to lower the price. Other clubs interested in him mightn't have that option. The all-too-imaginable Ashley-era mistake would be to sell Cisse first and then fail to buy Austin or anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gomez Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Does anyone else think it'd be strange to spend the best part of £30 million on two similar players? Would they even play together? Makes me wonder if it isn't all the typical "WE TRIED" smokescreen. Shame we couldn't have gone after squad depth like this in 2012 when we were actually in a position to capitalise on in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Does anyone else think it'd be strange to spend the best part of £30 million on two similar players? Would they even play together? Makes me wonder if it isn't all the typical "WE TRIED" smokescreen. Shame we couldn't have gone after squad depth like this in 2012 when we were actually in a position to capitalise on in. Agree, exactly why i don't want it to happen. Would much rather see a different type of player come in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaron Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 This going to drag to the last week or maybe transfer deadline day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Rolan seems far more plausible than Austin. Can't see us playing with both Austin and Mitrovic on the pitch. Rolan could fit in a number of different places though and brings some much needed pace into out attack. That is unless we get both Austin and Rolan and shift cisse out. Which seems highly unlikely. Every team needs a decent pool of 4/5 strikers to compete on all fronts, an unknown concept for us recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 That's the shit thing about signing Austin, we'll just sell Cisse so it isn't much of an addition. We'll sell Cisse wether we sign Austin or not IMO, as long as we get a decent offer. Two years left on his deal, won't want to let him get to only one year left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Rolan seems far more plausible than Austin. Can't see us playing with both Austin and Mitrovic on the pitch. Rolan could fit in a number of different places though and brings some much needed pace into out attack. That is unless we get both Austin and Rolan and shift cisse out. Which seems highly unlikely. Every team needs a decent pool of 4/5 strikers to compete on all fronts, an unknown concept for us recently. I agree that Rolan ( from the little i have seen) is a better fit, although i don't think he's good enough. Maybe harsh based on youtube scouting but he doesn't look any better than Gouffran was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 The whole "purples" system with an automatic first choice for every position and an understudy/reserve behind each one was/is incredibly flawed. It ignores injuries, and your purples have no competition for places, so half your purples play like pinks. Ignoring the obvious undroppable star players, and I honestly thing we don't have any other than maybe Janmaat and Kruul, you really need a squad of at least 18 players who can realistically offer competition for each place. There is no reason given the money available in the league that we should not have Mitrovic, Cisse, Perez and Austin as our available strikers, complemented by De Jong. We should be selling Gouffran and Rivière, not Cisse. It's probably the same in terms of wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Are we still dong the purples thing? hoped that would have been written off by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 The whole "purples" system with an automatic first choice for every position and an understudy/reserve behind each one was/is incredibly flawed. It ignores injuries, and your purples have no competition for places, so half your purples play like pinks. Ignoring the obvious undroppable star players, and I honestly thing we don't have any other than maybe Janmaat and Kruul, you really need a squad of at least 18 players who can realistically offer competition for each place. There is no reason given the money available in the league that we should not have Mitrovic, Cisse, Perez and Austin as our available strikers, complemented by De Jong. We should be selling Gouffran and Rivière, not Cisse. It's probably the same in terms of wages. This would be nice if it wasn't obvious that we would play with both Mitrovic and Austin(which probably wouldn't work anyway), drop a more deserving midfield player leading to the team to be completely unbalanced for moar strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Or maybe we try and not be as rigid and predictable and pick a team based on tactics and form and the oppositions weaknesses. One up front might be the best choice with some teams, two first choice strikers will be better with others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Or maybe we try and not be as rigid and predictable and pick a team based on tactics and form and the oppositions weaknesses. One up front might be the best choice with some teams, two first choice strikers will be better with others. Two strikers with different skillsets yeah, no one should be stupid enough is to play with two strikers who do practically all their work inside the box. Besides it's quite hopeful to think this would happen, if we spend 10m+ on a player he's starting all the time it's amazing how 3 signings make people forget who the owner is. There is no way in hell that Mitrovic or Austin should he sign spend any sort of time watching games from the bench, i wouldn't be against it otherwise but it's clearly not gonna to happen like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I agree Ashley wouldn't be signing a player for that kind of money with the intention of him being anything but a first team regular. But in the end its down to the head coach who plays. If that wasn't the case we'd never have seen Cabella, Yanga-Mbiwa, Ben Arfa ect left out so often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I still think it's incredibly optimistic to think we're going to suddenly be good enough as a team to be able to choose to leave a proven goalscorer out (or not sign one). Demanding our strikers be 'compatible' and need to be able to form an effective partnership of poaching and link up play is going way beyond where we are at the moment IMO. The more the merrier if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 We all know that Dave but whilst not accepting it as right, it's where we're at with these twats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Doing get me wrong, I know it's being incredibly optimistic, I always get that way in the close season. Especially with no Pardew. But two box based strikers might not be so daft, if you're also starting with Aaron's and Cabella for instance. Shearer and Ferdinand didn't too badly with Gillespie and Ginola. Wouldn't work every game obviously, just a bit tired of seeing us start games against weaker opposition as if we're playing Chelsea away every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 We all know that Dave but whilst not accepting it as right, it's where we're at with these twats. Nah I mean Mole implying he wouldn't want Austin because he doesn't see him and Mitrovic/Cisse making a partnership, that's what I'm on about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I doubt either would come without some sort of first team assurance tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Ah. Fair enough. Then I'm with you up til we resign shefki kuqi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Wants £85k a week according to preferred media partner :- http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/charlie-austin-qpr-departure-stalls-6139343 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Wants £85k a week according to preferred media partner :- http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/charlie-austin-qpr-departure-stalls-6139343 Would be our highest earner? Nee chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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