Dancing Brave Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 41 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Maguire must have dodgy pics of Southgate. Didn't Southgate say he would pick players in form ? Maybe he was fibbing when he said it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 And if Dan Burn is out on the basis of age, what the hell has Fikayo Tomori gotta do to get a call up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Maguire has been genuinely awful as well. Mings has been up and down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Maguire has been consistently excellent for England. Burn will get his chance if he keeps this up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, Sean said: Maguire and Mings Yeah I think Dan Burn deserves a call looking at that Maguire has always been good for England. Mings? man.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Literally never heard of Marc Guehi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: And if Dan Burn is out on the basis of age, what the hell has Fikayo Tomori gotta do to get a call up? Out on basis of age? What- where’s this from? Maguire, Coady, Mings are all 29, currently the same as Burn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Think Targett's more unlucky to miss out than Burn. At least a centre back there are actually options, but we've only got a bang out of form Luke Shaw in there for left back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Guehi Is a great call up. Connor Coady over Tomori Is criminal tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Burn is too good for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Everytime I start to believe in Southgate he ends up doing something dumb that paints him as part of the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Etienne Green of the greens of St-Etienne in the U21s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I don't think I've ever been as disinterested in international football as I am just now, I'm a two faced bastard though cos I'll be all in come the world Cup, I've even got a special glass for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 We will never win anything with Southgate in charge. We might have had a chance had they employed Howe instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, PeepShow4life said: We will never win anything with Southgate in charge. We might have had a chance had they employed Howe instead. We got to two tournament semifinals and were spot-kicks away from winning one… that’s having a chance surely under Southgate? Edited March 22, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Ben said: I don't think I've ever been as disinterested in international football as I am just now, I'm a two faced bastard though cos I'll be all in come the world Cup, I've even got a special glass for it. International football, especially England, has been my god send the last few years having switched off from NUFC due to Ashley and Bruce, and under Southgate and with these players, I’m loving England again, even friendlies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Love the talent in this England squad now; we’ve been crying out for technically gifted players for a while and I feel like we have that now. In saying that, I believe our recent success may (in some ways) be in spite of Southgate. Seemingly a very good man-manager, but I really don’t see him having the tactical nous to outfox the truly elite managers in world football. For that reason, despite the cornucopia of talented youngsters at our disposal, I don’t think we’ll ever truly achieve greatness with Gareth at the helm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Southgate has never been a success at anything. He got the job because he doesn't rock the boat and comes over as squeaky clean. He is more concerned about and puts more effort into other issues like LGBT, racism, equality, free school dinners etc. They are issues not to be ignored by any means but he is a football manager and not a politician. We have the best selection of players that we have ever had but with him in charge we will win nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, jackyboy said: Southgate has never been a success at anything. He got the job because he doesn't rock the boat and comes over as squeaky clean. He is more concerned about and puts more effort into other issues like LGBT, racism, equality, free school dinners etc. They are issues not to be ignored by any means but he is a football manager and not a politician. We have the best selection of players that we have ever had but with him in charge we will win nothing Despite all that, while in the role of football manager, two semi-finals at tournaments and a final which we were a spot kick or two away from winning. I agree tactically he isn’t on a par with say Mancini, but on form, stats wise etc. this is the best we’ve ever performed. He’s done a great job, is a great man and I think what he’s achieved can’t be measured by trophies, international football is more of a lottery than domestic football, it’s knock out football in the end and often spot kicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dembacha Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 33 minutes ago, jackyboy said: Southgate has never been a success at anything. He got the job because he doesn't rock the boat and comes over as squeaky clean. He is more concerned about and puts more effort into other issues like LGBT, racism, equality, free school dinners etc. They are issues not to be ignored by any means but he is a football manager and not a politician. We have the best selection of players that we have ever had but with him in charge we will win nothing I'd argue that making it to World Cup semi final and a European cup final is being pretty successful. He also as a player managed to play for his national team more than once which once again would point to him being successful. What makes you say he puts more effort into other issues over football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Ben said: I don't think I've ever been as disinterested in international football as I am just now, I'm a two faced bastard though cos I'll be all in come the world Cup, I've even got a special glass for it. I think Newcastle being in such disarray for so long when England came around in a tournament we all went all in. A few Toon players in the squad would soon change that in terms of it being a second thought currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Ben said: I don't think I've ever been as disinterested in international football as I am just now, I'm a two faced bastard though cos I'll be all in come the world Cup, I've even got a special glass for it. Mainly because anything before a tournament is utterly pointless. It’s almost impossible for us not to get out of the qualifying groups we get drawn in and international friendlies are also a waste of time mid season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 43 minutes ago, jackyboy said: Southgate has never been a success at anything. He got the job because he doesn't rock the boat and comes over as squeaky clean. He is more concerned about and puts more effort into other issues like LGBT, racism, equality, free school dinners etc. They are issues not to be ignored by any means but he is a football manager and not a politician. We have the best selection of players that we have ever had but with him in charge we will win nothing Ironically one of the things Southgate's most praised for is the culture shift he's fostered amongst a national team that has often times seemed disinterested and detached from the general public. The pesky caring about the community is probably a big part of that. And as if he can't take an interest in social issues at the same time as being an international football manager . I'm not a great fan of Southgate, he clearly has his tactical limitations and I wouldn't ever want him in charge at NUFC. But I find it strange how so many people love to imply he's wasted a generation of footballers with World Cup semi and Euros final runs when the country's not had a sniff of anywhere near that for 30 odd years, including a previously-touted 'Golden Generation'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Friendlies and qualifiers are not a waste of time on the scale of previous England regimes. One of the reasons why Southgate is the most successful manager in most of our lifetimes - - ahem, sorry, a politician whose only interested in LGBT crap and other woke stuff (I always forget!) - - is the togetherness, spirit and 'club feel' that he's fostered during his time. That vibe wouldn't be as ingrained without these occasions. The matches themselves are probably less important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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