Lazarus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: So many parallels between this England team and Newcastle prior to the takeover. Aye those cup finals at wembley are great memories Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, GWN said: Actually biggest worry I have is they come looking for Eddie There’s no chance of any practicing PL manager being poached by England. It’s a much worse job, especially for someone young. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Southgate is a plan A guy. If plan A doesn't work - he looks lost as what to do. Cant change it this close to the world cup but he needs to get his plan A working again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 This is Southgate’s worst run of results since he took over, in glorified friendlies, following a Semi and a Final. He deserves to be given the benefit of the doubt and maybe it’s a good things it’s happened already and we can get over it. We won’t win the WC, but no team will fancy playing us, apart from Hungary of course… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I reckon Howe would fancy it during his career and be good at it. I dont think he'd see it as something he'd do any time soon, though. Hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Someone on BBC text was suggesting Bielsa for the England job earlier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, HTT II said: It’s one of the best groups in terms of their spirit and togetherness, but talent wise it’s way below many a squad for previous tournaments man! We’ll have to agree to disagree on that. We have young, hungry players bang in form in practically every position and enough variety on the squad to play however we want - defensive, controlling, attacking, different formations etc. And yet, same formation, same style, same players every time. I can’t think of another time we had this much depth in my lifetime, with the exception of up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, NUFCDoog said: It's alright saying it's short term thinking to turn on him now, but the notion that just because you achieve some great results in years past it means you're immune to any criticism is just as ridiculous. End of the day we should have beat Croatia in 18 and Italy last year, but we didn't because of Southgates negative shitting himself tactics. No doubt Southgate has been far far better than expected when he was appointed, and honestly the last two tournament's have been the most I've enjoyed following England probably ever, however, every manager, every person in everyday life in any position of power, has a ceiling, I feel Southgate might have reached his. I pray I'll be proven wrong, but I think this is a team that can win something, but, under Southgate they never will. This isn't just me reacting ro these games either, I think most England fans, whether they admit it or not, have had the same feelings over the past few years, we've peaked the last two tournaments, it's been an amazing ride, but we're at a crossroads now and decisions need to be made. Agree entirely with this but just to pick up on the first bit… most fans saying this haven’t turned on him because of these results, they’ve seen (and highlighted) the obvious flaws throughout the last two major tournaments too. People don’t seen to accept that you can do well, but also evaluate it and stand back and say “we could’ve done better there”. You don’t just have to accept what you’re given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, GWN said: Must admit , it hardly registers a fuck with me like If Newcastle get beat I'm gutted and it takes me ages to get over it. If England get beat I'm gutted and it takes me seconds to get over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Wouldn't put too much on these games, after almost 2 years of constant football. Putting 4 meaningless internationals back to back is one of the most stupidist things I've seen. Although I had my doubts after the euros, never will have a better chance to win a major tournament than that with the advantages we had of basically a home tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, joeyt said: Someone on BBC text was suggesting Bielsa for the England job earlier I do miss the era of batshit foreign managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 It’s the second most stupidist thing I’ve seen, aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, Dancing Brave said: If Newcastle get beat I'm gutted and it takes me ages to get over it. If England get beat I'm gutted and it takes me seconds to get over it. I'm the same. I'm still wound up about Everton away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 The FA have someone who’s not mental, corrupt or a national embarrassment… they’re in no rush to change him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 It is a very talented England generation - it’s worth remembering that its only a few years ago England won the u17 and u20 WCs and u19 Euros in quick succession - lots of the current England squad were in those set-ups. So when people talk of Southgate squandering that opportunity, they do have a point - this is the most talented group in my lifetime; they’re all solid technically, more than the ‘superstars’ of the ‘golden generation’ etc. Southgate is a conservative coach who’s only club management experience ended in complete failure. He was far too defensive vs Italy after going 1-0 up. But he seems like a decent bloke, and sacking him months before a WC is crackers (as were the FA for extending his contract past the WC mind). Remember, if he wasn’t such a corrupt fucker the last two tournaments should’ve been Allardyce’s - and that con-man wouldn’t have got them near a semi or a final. One thing this does prove is that England have little strength in depth. I also don’t like Southgate’s little Englander tendencies in terms of treating the Nations League with contempt - that line-up was a pisstake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I do miss the era of batshit foreign managers. Seems to be working for the cricket team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: He should absolutely get this tournament like. If we underperform then fine, but he’s earned it. I swear people have forgotten how toxic the job was previously. It was basically impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Holmesy said: We’ll have to agree to disagree on that. We have young, hungry players bang in form in practically every position and enough variety on the squad to play however we want - defensive, controlling, attacking, different formations etc. And yet, same formation, same style, same players every time. I can’t think of another time we had this much depth in my lifetime, with the exception of up front. We’ve had better depth in every area of the pitch a few times, goalkeeper, central defence, midfield and especially up front. The only depth we have over other teams right now of the past is at full-back and I think most of our current lot are overrated because they are at the big clubs. Trippier is at NUFC and is arguably our best RB and probably better at LB than some of the others too. TAA is great on the ball, but defensively he is way off. Walker is the opposite. Good defensively, poor on the ball. I’m not sure Reece James is even a full-back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, ManDoon said: I wonder if France are binning off Deschamps? Or they don’t care because it’s glorified friendlies Hardly comparable ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: He should absolutely get this tournament like. If we underperform then fine, but he’s earned it. I swear people have forgotten how toxic the job was previously. What would be underperforming? As we’re pretty much always guaranteed a bye into the KOs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Suspect Steve Cooper will actually be the next manager anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: He should absolutely get this tournament like. If we underperform then fine, but he’s earned it. I swear people have forgotten how toxic the job was previously. I agree but the whole England setup has changed massively over the last decade too, to me Southgate is just a PR friendly nice guy and seriously lacking tactically (Same as Chris Hughton imo) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Yeah you’re right remind me again how they did in the euros? With one of the most stacked teams maybe ever? Remind how they did in the last World Cup ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: Is he not responsible for any of it then? It’s not a given that players just perform even if they are good. Not saying he isnt but you see what a good manager is made of when things start going wrong and he isnt showing anything atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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