andycap Posted November 17, 2025 Share Posted November 17, 2025 Bout time we get rid of all these non team players like Bellingham foden etc or we will never win nought. Over the years we go into tournaments with our so called World class players and fail. Tuchel knows the score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted November 18, 2025 Share Posted November 18, 2025 14 hours ago, Joe1984 said: The media don't care if England win or lose. They care about engagement. As for England failing, it will happen for the simple fact they aren't good enough to win a tournament. Harsh but true. Harsh. Teams win tournaments despite not being the best, and we have a handful of absolutely top class players, including Harry Kane. We have a couple of fragilities but so does everyone else. We need a bit of luck, like all teams that win tournaments. Luck with injuries, luck with the draw, luck with refs. And we need real togetherness. Now it may be that the press’ bullshit is so intense that it brings the team together - that’s a real thing - but right now all it’s doing is making everyone’s life harder and that really could have an impact. I don’t want or expect happy clappers and I know that when it comes down to it the red tops will put out their usual bollocks about “England Expects” or “Krauts” or “Argies” or whatever. But what they (The Mirror is the most obvious one, but there are others) are doing now is transparent and pathetic and frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 We could win it, obviously we probably won't but any team probably won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 We won’t win it, an to be honest I don’t give a fuck. For a long time England winning something was the best chance any of us were too experiencing success. We’ve experience that now, and to be honest I’d still rather we win the League Cup again this season than England win the World Cup. Why the fuck would I want football fans of other clubs who I spend the majority of the year hating and they enjoy the majority of the year hating us to be fucking happy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 I mean, I won't be gutted if we fail to win it but I'd rather we did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 Other people being happy sure is shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I mean, I won't be gutted if we fail to win it but I'd rather we did Well yeah it would be nice, but it’s not going to ruin my day if we don’t and I’m not going to start saying shit like we are 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 1 hour ago, Stifler said: We won’t win it, an to be honest I don’t give a fuck. For a long time England winning something was the best chance any of us were too experiencing success. We’ve experience that now, and to be honest I’d still rather we win the League Cup again this season than England win the World Cup. Why the fuck would I want football fans of other clubs who I spend the majority of the year hating and they enjoy the majority of the year hating us to be fucking happy? For Christ sake it would be great for the country if England won the World Cup and of course you would be invested. Your being a miserable twat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannybagoftudor Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 It would be the single most unifying factor this country has seen in a generation. The benefits would be immense - I am praying that we win it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 1 minute ago, cannybagoftudor said: It would be the single most unifying factor this country has seen in a generation. The benefits would be immense - I am praying that we win it. You reckon? Would give people a lift and bring together a camaraderie but for how long? Feel like it would be a positive blip on an otherwise negative timeline. Maybe it would be something to build from but who’s going to make the case for things improving elsewhere in society? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 I find it odd how often people like to point out that they hate watching England and don't care if they win. It's like some badge of honor or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 English supremacy doesn’t seem like the solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 (edited) I'd love England to win it even though I care a bit less as international football passes me by a bit. One reason would be in assuming we have Newcastle players in the team. I tend to want players in every international team that plays for us to do well, so I'm happy when Bruno or Big Nick do well, and will be if Gordon or Burn do well, etc. The other reason is that you tend to get lots of non club football fans watching, who maybe only follow major tournaments. I'd be happy for them. I don't consider them "proper" football fans, but on the other hand, having said I view everything through a club lens, I'm a hypocrite. Because I'm exactly the same when it comes to say cricket - don't follow county games but will no doubt be glued to the Ashes, and rugby - don't follow club rugby either but will definitely watch the world cup. Horses for courses. Edited November 20, 2025 by Abacus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 28 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: I find it odd how often people like to point out that they hate watching England and don't care if they win. It's like some badge of honor or something. It’s just sad Im not the biggest England fan but the World Cup and euros over the years has brought some good ( and some bad ) moments but it’s a time to just join with everyone around you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 I’d love England to win it, just so I can see / enjoy us winning it whilst in prime years (30-40). After that it will be bit meh for me, as the chances of seeing majority of the games with your friends will be really low, so it won’t have the same feeling. Also some of the games we could miss if we’re in west side. Like who’s watching us at 1am? 2030 will be the main World Cup to gun for, European soil and should be on back of having won a home Euros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 It’s not super-complicated for me I think. I grew up in England and have spent most of my life living in the community/country so I support England. It wasn’t a choice any more than being a Spurs fan was a choice. I just always have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 14 hours ago, Sibierski said: I’d love England to win it, just so I can see / enjoy us winning it whilst in prime years (30-40). After that it will be bit meh for me, as the chances of seeing majority of the games with your friends will be really low, so it won’t have the same feeling. Also some of the games we could miss if we’re in west side. Like who’s watching us at 1am? 2030 will be the main World Cup to gun for, European soil and should be on back of having won a home Euros. Hardly worth enjoying anything after 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 22, 2025 Share Posted November 22, 2025 On 21/11/2025 at 05:28, Sibierski said: I’d love England to win it, just so I can see / enjoy us winning it whilst in prime years (30-40). After that it will be bit meh for me, as the chances of seeing majority of the games with your friends will be really low, so it won’t have the same feeling. Also some of the games we could miss if we’re in west side. Like who’s watching us at 1am? 2030 will be the main World Cup to gun for, European soil and should be on back of having won a home Euros. Your prime years were your 20s, you’re only kidding yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 On 04/03/2024 at 09:13, JLC said: Ah, cheers. Will have to set up a child account then Watching England games though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 On 16/06/2024 at 18:01, JLC said: The key differentiator for me. When Newcastle lose then it spoils my day/weekend/week. When England lose, I'm over it after a few seconds. No heart in it for me. Again. Watching games. Though haven’t watched a World Cup game since 98… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLC Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 1 hour ago, tgarve said: Again. Watching games. Though haven’t watched a World Cup game since 98… WC Final since 98. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted December 29, 2025 Share Posted December 29, 2025 Would be nice if you could actually sing the national anthem without getting locked up these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 29, 2025 Share Posted December 29, 2025 Nike really tapping into the national mood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 29, 2025 Share Posted December 29, 2025 1 hour ago, Interpolic said: Nike really tapping into the national mood. Prefer “Kier Starmer’s a wanker” embossed into the badge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 I’m going to presume that as soon as the football starts I’ll be all in, but it’s a weird feeling really liking this England set-up but not feeling any warmth towards the World Cup. Trump is unbearable and I do wonder what exactly ICE will be up to throughout. Also if Kash Patel is somehow still in position I have very little confidence in the Feds’ preparation for actual terrorist threats etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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