St. Maximin Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Yeah perhaps, I see it both ways. At the very least I think it’s fair for Southgate to experiment with both a back three and four as always good to have different options, and I wouldn’t say the back three is proving disastrous. It’s just a shame excellent attacking players won’t even leave the bench as a result. I at least hope the midfield has a bit more going forward - Rice and Henderson are without doubt good players, but pretty underwhelming as a CM pair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Upcoming WC qualifers: Thursday 25th March - 19:45 - England Vs. San Marino Sunday 28th March - 17:00 - Albania Vs. England Wedneday 31st March - 19:45 - England Vs. Poland Starring these lads: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I know matches against minnows is pointless but I can't help but love watching an 8-0. On that basis I'm quite looking forward to the San Marino game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I seem to remember San Marino beat us once Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmintheChaos Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 The best 11 out of that squad is Pope Walker Coady Stones Shaw Mount Rice Foden Saka Kane Sterling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Looks like a squad Wilson would have had a shout at getting in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Lazarus said: I seem to remember San Marino beat us once Nah. They scored past us after 8 seconds in 93 but England still won 7-1. Massively embarrassing still mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 A good chance for Harry Kane to add to his goals tally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Connor Coady is depressing. Obviously class is Wolves’ system, but says to me Southgate is going to stick with the 3at the back/back 5. All Coady’s game is with the ball is to ping it out to full back. Usually over hit and out for throw.... Basic. Cant play in a 2, and a basic meh defender - not better than JL, but can ping a ball. Kyle Walker is much better CB in a 3 and miles better with the ball, so probably better suited in a 2 alongside teammate Stones. Coady doesn’t need anywhere near a England! Didn’t bother watching last round of fixtures, and barely gave a fuck before. Last game I remember watching was Iceland away, and Southgate still played 3 at the back! Edited March 24, 2021 by Abra Dubravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Southgate’s lost all the buzz he had following on from World Cup and Nations League. I saw them play Kosovo home, at Southampton, I think that would have been last SG played 4321/433 - Kosovo were brilliant in a couple of spells, but SG’s mentality is always going to be clean sheet. If we don’t have 2 solid class CB’s he’ll sacrifice whole side to stick in 3 meh centre backs. Worked up until Modric/Rakitic 2018. Been shite since against anything quality, even against Iceland recently and last few games it’s been arse. Rice,Henderson, Mount in a front 3 with Trippier on left wing?! 🙄 Edited March 24, 2021 by Abra Dubravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 He should start with a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 instead of the more defensive 5-3-2 he likes. We have the players to do so: ----------------------Henderson-------------------------- shaw--------stones--------Mings--.-.--------Walker --------------philips --------rice------------------- ----sterling--------mount-------------rashford ------------------Kane------------------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Kept harry maguire out becuase he really is a plodder, doesn´t live up to hype Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Shaw and Walker the other way round surely? Not sure Sterling is great on the right either if I'm honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I do find it quite depressing that, for all the outrageous quality in the England side, the future of the midfield appears to be being shaped around Declan Rice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Joelinton absolutely killed Mings, he surely can't be a starting centre half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, buzza said: He should start with a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 instead of the more defensive 5-3-2 he likes. We have the players to do so: ----------------------Henderson-------------------------- shaw--------stones--------Mings--.-.--------Walker --------------philips --------rice------------------- ----sterling--------mount-------------rashford ------------------Kane------------------- I don't think you can leave Grealish and/or Foden out (obviously when Grealish is available again). I'd also probably have JWP in instead of Rice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I think Rice is a bit underrated TBH, he's very effective at his job. Albeit a pretty boring job. Grealish has to play for me, by far the most fearless and the most fun to watch. Ideally Foden as well. I'm not sure if Rashford really works, but I've had mixed feelings about him for ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Hopefully Bellingham ends up being the bees knees. As for now, Foden is one of the first names on the team sheet for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I think Rice is a bit underrated TBH, he's very effective at his job. Albeit a pretty boring job. Grealish has to play for me, by far the most fearless and the most fun to watch. Ideally Foden as well. I'm not sure if Rashford really works, but I've had mixed feelings about him for ages. Agree on Rice. Of that ‘type’ of midfielder I think he’s our best by a long way. Think some of our fans hold against him the fact they were saying Sean Longstaff was better after just half a dozen games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Been a lot better this season but I think playing in a team which doesn't monopolise the ball benefits him there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Quote Henderson Walker - Stones - Maguire - Shaw Rice - Mount Sterling - Foden - Rashford Kane Quite like the idea of a back 4 comprised of one half City and one half Man U. Maguire is a disaster waiting to happen, but defence is going to be an issue whoever's in there so would rather we just went for some familiarity. Rice and Mount to run around like fuck to cover for the wide forwards. Foden amazing in transition. Would shape up more like a 4-2-4 in attack. Edited March 24, 2021 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Going against the grain here - but I think 5 at the back might win us a trophy- can’t see us beating a top team like France etc in any other system - Pickford Trippier Walker Stones Maguire shaw Rice Henderson Bellingham Foden/ grealish Kane is the way to go if we are serious about winning something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Alternatively Pickford trippier maguire stones shaw rice Henderson sterling Grealish. Foden Kane think it’s too weak defensively Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Kane may be rested for the San Marino game. Dominic Calvert-Lewin get a chance to bag a few goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Can't see any compelling reason to go anywhere close to full strength tbh. It's a shame he couldn't pick an entirely different squad for this, separate to the Albania/Poland games. You could put half a dozen League 1 players in against San Marino and still put six past them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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