The College Dropout Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Not a consistent threat in any position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Motm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 His role has to be purely breaking into the box late and trying to score goals like a second striker. He isn't the creative type or someone who can drive us forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 His role has to be purely breaking into the box late and trying to score goals like a second striker. He isn't the creative type or someone who can drive us forward. Not true. He looked very good on the few occasions dribbling through the midfield. It's something he has the ability to do more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Thought he did a decent job in CM tbh, doesn't look a role he's suited to at all but carried it forward well a few times and had a few nice touches. Long term he shouldn't be playing CM though, and I'm not sure playing just off the striker suits him either. I'd start him wide right the next game. Think he showed on the goal that one on one with the FB he can beat his man and then put in a delivery, which we desperately need. Would also allow him to do what he did so well on the left earlier in the year, namely drifting inside and getting on the end of chances in the box and scoring goals. Problem was on the left he couldn't contribute a lot in build up play, as he always had to cut inside when in possession. On the right he could take on the defender and get a cross in though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 His role has to be purely breaking into the box late and trying to score goals like a second striker. He isn't the creative type or someone who can drive us forward. Not true. He looked very good on the few occasions dribbling through the midfield. It's something he has the ability to do more often. They weren't driving penetrating runs which he did, he will beat a man and lay it off. I want him beating a man and getting a shot off, or arriving into the box looking to get on the end of something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 He beats people with insane levels of ease man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 He beats people with insane levels of ease man. Has exceptional close control and balance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 He beats people with insane levels of ease man. Aye, but it's usually followed by a soft pass back to them. He needs to improve, he's not playing in a shit and slow Dutch league now and needs to start putting in the performances that he is capable of. We constantly lambast the players in our squad like Colback, Anita, Dummett. But they are hampered by the fact that they are not very good, this guy has all the quality he needs but has only shown it in about 5 games of our 30 so far this season and seems to consistently get away with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 He beats people with insane levels of ease man. Aye, but it's usually followed by a soft pass back to them. He needs to improve, he's not playing in a s*** and slow Dutch league now and needs to start putting in the performances that he is capable of. We constantly lambast the players in our squad like Colback, Anita, Dummett. But they are hampered by the fact that they are not very good, this guy has all the quality he needs but has only shown it in about 5 games of our 30 so far this season and seems to consistently get away with it. Aye, he and Moussa are meant to be 2 of our best players. No surprise we are 19th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 He beats people with insane levels of ease man. Aye, but it's usually followed by a soft pass back to them. Which runs did he fail to spot then? Maybe I missed them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Maybe time to put him out wide again. Not ideal but he's invisible centrally. I bet an Anita/Wijnaldum right hand side produces more than Janmaat/Sissoko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 He beats people with insane levels of ease man. Aye, but it's usually followed by a soft pass back to them. Which runs did he fail to spot then? Maybe I missed them. Get away man, he has been absolutely pathetic for about three months now. There has been numerous times where he's lost the ball in ridiculous circumstances when he could play a pass to a team mate. He barely attempts to take people on anymore, or pass, or do anything. Seems to stand in the middle of the pitch and watch the game go by him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 He beats people with insane levels of ease man. Aye, but it's usually followed by a soft pass back to them. Which runs did he fail to spot then? Maybe I missed them. Get away man, he has been absolutely pathetic for about three months now. There has been numerous times where he's lost the ball in ridiculous circumstances when he could play a pass to a team mate. He barely attempts to take people on anymore, or pass, or do anything. Seems to stand in the middle of the pitch and watch the game go by him. You didn't answer the question. If you don't want him making soft passes then you should be able to pinpoint alternative forward passes he could have made instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 There was a few times today he dribbled past 2 or 3 with remarkable ease, something I hadn't really noticed him do before. So many midfielders and none of them fit the system we play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 He beats people with insane levels of ease man. Aye, but it's usually followed by a soft pass back to them. Which runs did he fail to spot then? Maybe I missed them. Get away man, he has been absolutely pathetic for about three months now. There has been numerous times where he's lost the ball in ridiculous circumstances when he could play a pass to a team mate. He barely attempts to take people on anymore, or pass, or do anything. Seems to stand in the middle of the pitch and watch the game go by him. You didn't answer the question. If you don't want him making soft passes then you should be able to pinpoint alternative forward passes he could have made instead. I think you misread what I wrote, I said soft passes back to them meaning the opposition player he had just beaten with ease (see the post I quoted). I have no issues with Wijnaldum playing soft passes to his team mates, in the past three months all I have seen is a player wander around aimlessly losing/giving the ball away. First few months of the season he was insanely good at times, since December I think we could have played without him and had better results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Thought he was decent today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Totally Anonymous apart from the cross for the goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 My preferred XI changes week by week. Based on yesterday I'd be tempted to keep him on the right, Townsend left, Shelvey + 1 in the middle with De Jong behind Mitrovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Seeing the way he glides past people, you would think that playing him wide right, might actually suit. He has a lovely touch and turns and rolls his marker, really easily. So you'd think he'd have the attributes to play out wide. I agree with others, who were saying he'd be able to get back to what he did earlier in the season. Where he was ghosting into the box late from the flank. I didn't think he was that good yesterday. But he works his arse off, that's for sure. It's just so annoying when you see him skin 3 of their players in a flash. Then he disappears for the next 5 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Dunno if posted already but interesting stat regarding Shelvey and no 10 players. Havent checked this out btw. Gylfi when playing with Shelvey: 13 games, 2g 1a Without Shelvey: 18 games, 7g 2a Wijnaldum with Shelvey: 9 games, 1g 2a Without Shelvey: 21 games, 8g 3a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I think Shelvey dropping so deep to dictate tempo didn't help Wijnaldum. He was crowded out in the centre of the pitch by all of Sunderland's midfielders whenever Shelvey went into "Quarterback" mode between the two CBs. Potentially why he looked more anonymous in our slow build up phases; which he has done pretty much all season tbf, sans Shelvey. Solution could be a De Jong dropping in there or Tiote coming back from the wilderness...or an Abeid type player... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 My main gripe with Shelvey is everything has to go through him. He drops deep to pick up two yard passes from our CBs only to look up and give it to either the RB or LB. That is a pass the CB could be making himself, and is usually the only ball 'on' for Shelvey as there is no one available a bit further up in the centre which is where he should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Yeah. I thought Shelvey sat far too deep. Sunderland were just getting everyone behind the ball and organised. So Shelvey sitting next to the centre backs and looking to spray long passes, was a bit pointless. It wasn't like we were ever going to get in behind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 He has got the dribbling ability but problem is he can get knocked off the ball easily and sometimes in dangerous areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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