Aiston Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 It's management's fault we chose to place our eggs in his basket, not his. He hasn't been good enough this season. Not much more needs to be said really. It's 100% his fault, the chances he has missed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Not that it matters to anyone, but his conversion rate has been better than, for example, both Memphis Depay and Theo Walcott this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Aye, but they aren't strikers and have been completely shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Not that it matters to anyone, but his conversion rate has been better than, for example, both Memphis Depay and Theo Walcott this season. They are both totally shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Memphis, like Mitro, will need time to adapt to the English game. Sadly enough he hasn't had it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Look, the 2 most important attributes for a striker is finishing and pace. Mitrovic has neither and you don't develop these attributes suddenly. I can sort of understand that he was under pressure and that somehow rationalized his poor finishing, but you either have pace or you don't. Most young strikers who turn to be world class have pace in abundance. If he can't sprint to beat Villa's central defenders at age 21, just accept it that he's slow as snail. That ain't changing anytime soon or ever. Though not this season, but at least Cisse and Perez gave us a few good seasons and those I will cherish and remember. I will just remember Mitrovic as a slow donkey. Might as well cut our losses and sell him off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Although rarer, there are numerous examples of world class centre forwards who couldn't outrun Boris Johnson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Look, the 2 most important attributes for a striker is finishing and pace. Mitrovic has neither and you don't develop these attributes suddenly. I can sort of understand that he was under pressure and that somehow rationalized his poor finishing, but you either have pace or you don't. Most young strikers who turn to be world class have pace in abundance. If he can't sprint to beat Villa's central defenders at age 21, just accept it that he's slow as snail. That ain't changing anytime soon or ever. Though not this season, but at least Cisse and Perez gave us a few good seasons and those I will cherish and remember. I will just remember Mitrovic as a slow donkey. Might as well cut our losses and sell him off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Although rarer, there are numerous examples of world class centre forwards who couldn't outrun Boris Johnson. Dzeko is a good ezample of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I wouldn't call Zlatan exactly fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Not world class obviously but a comparison is Carroll who isn't fast by any means. If he stays, I think playing in the Championship to bang in a few goals and get some confidence will be massive for Mitro and will be a huge turning point in his career here, although I do maintain that playing another striker alongside him (maybe Armstrong) will relieve the pressure and isolation on him and also help. Can't see Rafa changing from 4-2-3-1 though unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Rafa won't be here to play that formation in the championship. He will be gone by the end of this month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Not world class obviously but a comparison is Carroll who isn't fast by any means. If he stays, I think playing in the Championship to bang in a few goals and get some confidence will be massive for Mitro and will be a huge turning point in his career here, although I do maintain that playing another striker alongside him (maybe Armstrong) will relieve the pressure and isolation on him and also help. Next season will make him or break him if he's still here. There's a player in there, and he gets in the positions to get the chances, but he just looks desperately short on confidence in front of goal to me rather than necessarily lacking instinct. If he can have a season of consistently banging them in it'll do him the world of good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 It's hard to play Mitro up front on his own when he's lacking pace, but playing 2 up front doesn't really happen. Not sure what we should do because I do think the talent and passion is there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 The fact is, he's missed guilt edge chances against Villa in both fixtures this season. Chance you should put away at any level. If he scores them then we'd probably be staying up. Couple that with generally all round carthorse performances and other missed opportunities, then he has to shoulder some of the blame or relegation. Fwiw, I like him and i'd love him to succeed here, but there's no way we should have gambled on him being our main man, evidently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Forgetting a 21 year old from a foreign country not exactly blessed with pace which is one asset a PL striker needs has been called on to fire the goals to keep us up which is all wrong... he is still shit and that's a fact. His misses yesterday wasn't someone with no confidence or even ability, it was the sign of someone who just lacks the right metal to be a success at this level. I think his attitude is suspect as well and a clear indicator as to why he isn't starting. So he tries to rough a defender up, beckons the crowd to get noisier... I see him constantly saunter around half arsed. Cisse is shit and gets stick and rightly so but since Rafa brought him in he runs and chases his man, shadows and presses space. Mitrovic doesn't. I'd keep him for the Championship though, he may get 15 goals or plus. As a Premier League striker though he's fucking shit. I'd rather have Cisse. Give Cisse those chances yesterday and we win the game... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 It's management's fault we chose to place our eggs in his basket, not his. He hasn't been good enough this season. Not much more needs to be said really. It's 100% his fault, the chances he has missed. Aye, hence the second sentance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I'm desperate for Cisse to get fucked. Bag of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Gay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kaizero Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Give Cisse those chances yesterday and we win the game... Cisse had chances yesterday. Still 0-0. Cisse instead of Mitro on that chance alone with the keeper and the ball still wouldn't have come back down to earth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Mitrovic had clear cut chances, Cisse didn't... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I wouldn't call any of our chances, bar Colbacks, clear cut chances. Mitro fluffed the one when he was through on goal, that was some bullshit and he should have done a lot better. The header was decent enough given the cross. The fact we couldn't create big chances against Aston fucking Villa is a disgrace, but to be honest, that's not really any of the strikers faults - neither Cisse or Mitro. Fucking wank fucking wankers behind them. Fuck. Anita being the only player in our team with a good cross on him says it fucking all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Mitrovic had clear cut chances, Cisse didn't... Mitrovic was in the positions to get chances. Cisse wasn't... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Talk about clutching at straws. Cisse is s****, simple as. Mitro isn't great either, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I can see Mitro and Armstrong complementing each other; like a poor man's version of Shearer and Bellamy. Or should say a Championship version. If they can get used to each other, given their age and probability for improvement, we might just have a decent front two for 2018-19 Premiership season. Or they might just prove to be premier flops unable to perform against top level defences. We can speculate all we like that Mitro might go on to be a top player or that him and Armstrong might tear up the championship, but it's based on nothing but wishful thinking. I don't know what Mitro did for Anderlecht, but in the premier he has shown no ruthless touch in front of goal. Not a single one that he's scored has shown the opportunism of someone who can get one on one with the keeper and score more times than not. Yep, they might. However, I don't think either of them have peaked yet/become as good as they will ever be. How many strikers/players do before their mid-late twenties? Not many I'm guessing. So not wishful thinking so much as probability of improvement and being willing to imagine them finding a connection. Biased by the fact I like them both. There should be more time, and less challenge, against lower league teams so they should do better. Should it come to pass, that they ever play together in that league. Don't think Mitro is a 20 goal a season striker, but he's a competent target man. Would have been fascinating to see a Defoe type sniffing around him for knock downs-- if we'd ever dare to play two up front! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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