Nobody Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Iirc, and those of you of a certain age please help me out, but the patter (irrespective of the song) about Andy Cole was similar, in that that he wasted a lot of chances. Thing was he also scored s*** loads. He was always there or thereabouts in the right place, and had a plentiful supply from a phenomenal supporting cast. Wishful thinking maybe, despite their different styles, I can see signs of this 'gift' in Mitro. Think Coley was about the same age/bit older when he joined us. Hoping Mitro follows in the same tracks. (No, I don't mean falls out with the manager and f's off to Man U at the first opportunity!) Cole's conversion rate was excellent for us. He was as lethal as they come whilst here. This. Imre Varadi was the most erratic striker I can remember for us, but he was still twice the player Mitrovic is. I just really don't get the hero worship for the kid. It's based on absolutely fuck all. That's probably because it doesn't exist. A fair few people, me included, rate him as a good prospect and like him as a player. Don't see a lot of this hero worship you're on about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It shouldn't need to be said again like, but he's 21. "Hero worship" is something you've just made up to give yourself something to argue against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It shouldn't need to be said again like, but he's 21. "Hero worship" is something you've just made up to give yourself something to argue against. Exactly. People recognise he's young, hard-working and wants to do well, and as a result want to give him a chance to do so. 'hero worship' ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I think he will do well, due to the ban might take a little while to get going BUT once he does he should get 15-20 goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Andy Cole - one of the finest strikers to ever wear the black and white shirt, and indeed the Premier League, being compared to Mitro?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Only comparing in so much as being in the right place at the right time (arguable obviously), don't think anyones making comparisons on style of play or ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Anyone find record of Beardo's assists record per season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Anyone find record of Beardo's assists record per season? It'll be on espn and/or statbunker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Incorrect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Andy Cole's conversion rate was a lot better for us than many believe, he gets criticism largely for chances he missed for England. My biggest concern with Mitro is the number of times he's actually took air shots when presented with a chance, he may well turn out to be a confidence goal scorer rather than a natural goal scorer. The sooner he bags a goal the better and missing the first 4 games doesn't help. Out of interest, do you have any stats for that (although it was probably in an era before the stats were even kept)? My memory of Cole was that he was a great striker obviously, but he did miss quite a few chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Aguero misses a few chances. So does Ronaldo. So does Mitro. But one is currently a bang average PL player and the others are world class. Mitro's total of 9 isn't that bad. For some reason I thought he scored 5-6 goals. I know a couple were penalties but 9 isn't terrible. Not good but not terrible. But a lot of his misses cost us valuable points. a little more finishing ability, say 13-14 goals we would've stayed up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'm not actually discussing Mitrovic at the moment. I merely wanted to know the statistics behind Cole's conversion rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 ^^ wasn't referring to you Hughesy. But to answer and not answer your question - I dont believe those stats were tracked in those days. I also think "conversion rate" is a bit misleading. Ronaldo's conversion rate would be bang average - because he's capable of scoring from anywhere and he takes shots from anywhere. Andy Cole may have missed chances but he was so clever in the box, great instincts. He pretty much only attempted finishes you would expect a goal in. He got a lot of good chances but a lot of that is down to his own smarts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 All strikers miss chances, the difference in Mitro and Cole is that Cole always seemed far more of a predator in front of goal. Half a chance and it was in the back of the net before the defence realised where he was. Mitro on the other hand is often found flat footed when the opportunities arise, although he has a lot more to his game than just goals so not really a fair comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 ^^ wasn't referring to you Hughesy. But to answer and not answer your question - I dont believe those stats were tracked in those days. I also think "conversion rate" is a bit misleading. Ronaldo's conversion rate would be bang average - because he's capable of scoring from anywhere and he takes shots from anywhere. Andy Cole may have missed chances but he was so clever in the box, great instincts. He pretty much only attempted finishes you would expect a goal in. He got a lot of good chances but a lot of that is down to his own smarts. not really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Lads, the championship is a new league, as are pre season games. He's s young lad, still adjusting to these new, variable tempos. And we don't create enough chances for him to score, where's the service? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Lads, the championship is a new league, as are pre season games. He's s young lad, still adjusting to these new, variable tempos. And we don't create enough chances for him to score, where's the service? Coming up, on a plate, mate! All being well... "...your defence is terrified..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 He better be banging them in in this league, I don't know what his apologists would say if he doesn't. I've always liked the lad but we need a freakin' somewhat clinical striker. I'm glad we signed Gayle, maybe the load can be shared sufficiently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 His hold up play was excellent. Maybe people were singing his song to encourage him? Weird idea I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Maybe they were like, hmm, supporting him? Guess that would make them supporters though instead of doylems so I'm not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The very best strikers are prolific goalscorers regardless. Shearer for almost his entire career here was prolific despite playing in a team that was either crap or average. Such players score goals at any level in any set-up and in any side. Cole, Shearer, Sir Les, Owen even... they are at the very top of pile when it comes to strikers. Mitrovic isnt a goalscorer and never will be, he will never be prolific. He may become a decent striker or centre-forward in terms of play, but when it comes to putting the ball into the back of the net he will always be bang average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Glad to see that we haven't written off a 21 year old striker with 78 career goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Saw him huff and puff again yesterday to little effect, and headed his customary free 8 yard header straight at the keeper as per. Loads of doylems singing his song, for no particular reason. Mitro's a trier, your defence is mildly perturbed. Ridiculous fans singing a song in support of one of our players like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The very best strikers are prolific goalscorers regardless. Shearer for almost his entire career here was prolific despite playing in a team that was either crap or average. Such players score goals at any level in any set-up and in any side. Cole, Shearer, Sir Les, Owen even... they are at the very top of pile when it comes to strikers. Mitrovic isnt a goalscorer and never will be, he will never be prolific. He may become a decent striker or centre-forward in terms of play, but when it comes to putting the ball into the back of the net he will always be bang average. Look up Shearer's scoring record upto age 22, compared to Mitrovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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