LionOfGosforth Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Find it a bit weird how some people seem to think pleasing one player is worth more than the bigger picture. We've done absolutely fine without Mitrovic and he's done well for himself out on loan, what's the point of worrying about what could have been? There's just as much evidence to say he'd have scored those Fulham goals for us as there is to say we'd be in the relegation zone right now had we played him more. Precisely nil. If we were doing shite, fine. If we had a shite manager that couldn't be trusted, fine. Neither of those things are the case though. It hasn't worked out for Mitrovic here, get over it. I think most accept it hasn't worked out for him, those questioning it are just wondering what could have been. Nowt wrong with debating that is there? We've done fantastic this year in the end, don't think anyone is arguing that. I don't think anyone wants to "please one player" over the team either. What if a young lad, from another league, plonked in a shit team and expected to score 15+ in his first season, was instead given a bit of time to integrate and learn the tactical discipline required for a Rafa team, instead of being tossed on our scrapheap? All that going on while Gayle and the other lump have scored like 5 between them. Well maybe Rafa just decided that he can't and that's that. Fine. Anyway, he's finished here, just hope we get a fair amount of dosh from the inevitable sale and it can be re-invested properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Find it a bit weird how some people seem to think pleasing one player is worth more than the bigger picture. We've done absolutely fine without Mitrovic and he's done well for himself out on loan, what's the point of worrying about what could have been? There's just as much evidence to say he'd have scored those Fulham goals for us as there is to say we'd be in the relegation zone right now had we played him more. Precisely nil. If we were doing shite, fine. If we had a shite manager that couldn't be trusted, fine. Neither of those things are the case though. It hasn't worked out for Mitrovic here, get over it. It's not about pleasing a player though. Why on earth should we not seek to get better? Yes, we're doing well, but that's hardly mainly down to our strikers. It hasn't worked out for Mitro for a number of reasons. Even with that said, he had a decent first season here. With game time, patience and trust/love from Rafa, I reckon he'd do very well here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Find it a bit weird how some people seem to think pleasing one player is worth more than the bigger picture. We've done absolutely fine without Mitrovic and he's done well for himself out on loan, what's the point of worrying about what could have been? There's just as much evidence to say he'd have scored those Fulham goals for us as there is to say we'd be in the relegation zone right now had we played him more. Precisely nil. If we were doing shite, fine. If we had a shite manager that couldn't be trusted, fine. Neither of those things are the case though. It hasn't worked out for Mitrovic here, get over it. It's not about pleasing a player though. Why on earth should we not seek to get better? Yes, we're doing well, but that's hardly mainly down to our strikers. It hasn't worked out for Mitro for a number of reasons. Even with that said, he had a decent first season here. With game time, patience and trust/love from Rafa, I reckon he'd do very well here. It's weird because i'd guess that Rafa would probably be the perfect father-figure type coach to put an arm around him and guide him. By all accounts, Rafa is not the cold distant bloke Gerrard claimed he used to be in his Liverpool days. We've excelled this year despite our strikers, not because of them. Everything behind them is so well drilled and yes, that is 1 million percent down to Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 admittedly just going off highlights but he seems more focussed. spent a lot of his time here looking for freekicks, and getting into needless tangles. also positionally found wanting on several occasions. ball would be played across the face of goal and he'd be nowhere to be seen. maybe this loan spell is just what he needed. his manager there is serb too i think so may have something to do with it. also we dont know what went on in training. shelvey's got turned himself round, may be mitro will also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 admittedly just going off highlights but he seems more focussed. spent a lot of his time here looking for freekicks, and getting into needless tangles. also positionally found wanting on several occasions. ball would be played across the face of goal and he'd be nowhere to be seen. maybe this loan spell is just what he needed. his manager there is serb too i think so may have something to do with it. also we dont know what went on in training. shelvey's got turned himself round, may be mitro will also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just do one more thing for us Mitro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 His goal yesterday was fantastic, Mitro really is a good player, we should hold on to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 https://twitter.com/joenkanone/status/984161992385662976 Most of his goals in that clip he showed a striker's instinct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Every goal increases his value and pretty soon Fulham won't be able to afford him. He's desperate to stay at the toon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I agree with huss9. I think Mitro has learned to show some focus that we never saw. He's become a different, better player. Rafa didn't play him ahead of Murphy in the Championship for a reason. The possibility is slim, but this even could work out as a "developmental" loan. If, more likely, we do sell, it's now going to be for a ton more cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Not sure I've ever wanted a player to be successful at Newcastle as much as Mitrovic like. I can't see it, but hopefully he can win Rafa over. Though it speaks volumes that he's probably our best striker and he's out on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I agree with huss9. I think Mitro has learned to show some focus that we never saw. He's become a different, better player. Rafa didn't play him ahead of Murphy in the Championship for a reason. The possibility is slim, but this even could work out as a "developmental" loan. If, more likely, we do sell, it's now going to be for a ton more cash. I didn't really see anything different to his game yesterday, he showed he can hit a decent strike, which he has done for us once or twice as well. Still don't think his all round game is going to be enough for Rafa, ideally he will be looking for someone with a turn of pace. The plus is that if Fulham get promoted they'll pay a decent fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dontooner Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Mitro is a much better player in a team that has possession and play higher up the field. With the players we have, i don't think Rafa could have us playing that. If its counter football with little possession i am in Rafa's camp to not pick Mitro. However please don't take anything away from this lad, he can score goals if you give him service. We need a striker that can do more than score goals given how little possession and service the strikers usually get in this team in order to win a game. In reality we need the front players to play hard for one another without differentiating who is the striker or the winger, that is how we have being able to score and win goals this half of the season with less possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 If he's genuinely improved during this loan spell then I think Rafa will give him a second chance like. We've seen with Gayle how little goals down there can mean though. I would love to see him strutting across St James' Park flexing his biceps like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-10-best-players-championship Ranked 2nd behind Neves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The Mitro situation is win win for us. If we decide not to bring him back we will get more than our money back arguably and even if Fulham were not to go up, I could see them looking at say 20m and thinking yeah as had they had him all season they may well be up already. If he does come back he will be confident and eager to kick on. I just don’t see where he’d fit in Rafa’s system though as he prefers someone hard working and mobile up there and by hard working I mean someone who is willing to run themselves into the ground ala Gayle or Perez. Slimani already looks like he has pace about him and strength. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 i like mitro but it seems fairly clear that someone like slimani, while also a big lad, has just got more mobility and pace to be able to worry defenders in rafa's system - the exact problem both mitro and gayle face in it he has to go i'm afraid, and we have to get slimani or someone like him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 https://twitter.com/joenkanone/status/984161992385662976 Most of his goals in that clip he showed a striker's instinct. What a mental stud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 huss9's point about Mitro for us wasting his energy on bad attempts at winding up opposition players, like a shit version of Diego Costa, was especially apt. He seems much more focused now, and not surprisingly looks a much better player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 It's almost as if people are more mature at 23-24 than they are when they're 20-21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 As far as I can see there, he's proving himself as a good player in team who are one of the best in their league. Half the goals he's scoring seem to be flashed across the box by a tricky winger. We couldn't and haven't played like that this season, we don't have fast wingers and until recently haven't made those kinds of chances. We've been counter-attacking all season and it's clear that those aren't the situations that Mitro is finding himself now. All power to the lad but I don't think he'd have scored many this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Should ask Fulham for at least as much as Leicester want for Slimani, at the very minimum. Haven't seen much of Slimani but i already hope we go for him, despite not being a youngster anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Should ask Fulham for at least as much as Leicester want for Slimani, at the very minimum. Haven't seen much of Slimani but i already hope we go for him, despite not being a youngster anymore. If we spend more than half of the Mitro money on Slimani, that would be a bad deal. We'll be lucky to get 2 seasons out of Slimani. If we sell Mitro e need to be getting Slimani and his back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Sign wingers / good crossers ala Robert, Ginola and Gillespie and he will score around 100 goals next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Should ask Fulham for at least as much as Leicester want for Slimani, at the very minimum. Haven't seen much of Slimani but i already hope we go for him, despite not being a youngster anymore. If we spend more than half of the Mitro money on Slimani, that would be a bad deal. We'll be lucky to get 2 seasons out of Slimani. If we sell Mitro e need to be getting Slimani and his back up. If you genuinely believe that, then I see disappointment in your future. They will go for similar fees. They paid £30m for him, and they’ll want a big chunk of that back. We’ll only get more for Mitrovic if he is on fire for Serbia at the World Cup. My hopes are that Mitrovic raises enough to pay for Kenedy, but I’m not confident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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