Aleksandar Mitrović

[hakka]

4 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said:

Not sure 2 less goals in 35 less games can really be put as "The same" tbh

 

 

Wonder if they are starts or inclusive of sub appearances. Be interesting to compare mins on pitch to goals for the Prem one.

[toontownman]

Always liked mitro. Thought it was more an attitude clash that saw him moved on rather than talent? We can do better now but gladly would have had him back. Offered much more than Gayle imo.

[Karjala]

Premiership:

Gayle 26 in 139 

Mitro 24 in 104

Joelinton 6 in 78

[GideonShandy]

To be fair it wasn't just an attitude clash that earned him the "Misstrovic" tag,  or caused him to keep getting sent off or to go down clutching his face at the slightest excuse.  He's clearly matured a lot since Rafa moved him on.

[Dokko]

Would love to have had him back here instead of Joelinton. 

[GWN]

The bloke can finish when given space , found out in the PL but I agree 100 times better than Jow

[Noisewater]

8 hours ago, hakka said:

 

Wonder if they are starts or inclusive of sub appearances. Be interesting to compare mins on pitch to goals for the Prem one.

Gayle 26 in 139 - 6063 minutes (1 goal every 233 mins)

Mitrovic 24 in 104 - 6937 minutes (1 goal every 289 mins)

 

Joelinton 6 in 78 - 5182 minutes (1 goal every 863 mins)

[Dr.Spaceman]

I'd rather have the guy who scores 1 in 233 than the guy who scores 1 in 289 like. Also rather have the guy who does what his manager tells him to.

[Shearergol]

7 hours ago, Karjala said:

Premiership:

Gayle 26 in 139 

Mitro 24 in 104

Joelinton 6 in 78

 

Gayle 1 in 5.3

Mitro 1 in 4.3

Joelinton 1 in 13

Wilson 1 in 2.7

 

Danny Ings 1 in 2.5

 

Not sure where I'm going with this

[Aiston]

Didn't Mitro end his Newcastle career by being suspended for more games than goals he scored for us?

 

 

 

Edited October 26, 2021 by Aiston

[PeepShow4life]

He'd be a good back up for Wilson.

[Lazarus]

1 hour ago, Shearergol said:

 

Gayle 1 in 5.3

Mitro 1 in 4.3

Joelinton 1 in 13

Wilson 1 in 2.7

 

Danny Ings 1 in 2.5

 

Not sure where I'm going with this

 

 

 

Neither really good enough but Mitro the better of the two.

[jackyboy]

I think when he was here he made a comment along the lines of 'I don't want to use my energy up running around defending, I want to use it for attacking'

[Shearergol]

13 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

 

 

 

Neither really good enough but Mitro the better of the two.

In comparison, Schär has 7 in 66

[hakka]

2 hours ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

I'd rather have the guy who scores 1 in 233 than the guy who scores 1 in 289 like. Also rather have the guy who does what his manager tells him to.

 

Aye, which is why I thought per minutes was a better stat and it's actually shown Gayle has delivered more than looking at it from purely appearances to goals. They both aren't good enough overall though. We need better.

[midds]

1 hour ago, jackyboy said:

I think when he was here he made a comment along the lines of 'I don't want to use my energy up running around defending, I want to use it for attacking'...

...people

[Happinesstan]

 

3 hours ago, GWN said:

The bloke can finish when given space , found out in the PL but I agree 100 times better than Jow

Yeah, he'd probably do alright with ASM drawing two or three defenders.

[Happinesstan]

 

9 minutes ago, hakka said:

 

Aye, which is why I thought per minutes was a better stat and it's actually shown Gayle has delivered more than looking at it from purely appearances to goals. They both aren't good enough overall though. We need better.

Not really. It just backs up the well known fact that Gayle has more sub appearances. Before our season in the championship I don't think he'd ever been the leading man. Mitro has been the leading man all his career. 

[hakka]

1 hour ago, Happinesstan said:

 

Not really. It just backs up the well known fact that Gayle has more sub appearances. Before our season in the championship I don't think he'd ever been the leading man. Mitro has been the leading man all his career. 

 

Not quite sure what your argument is, but both are not good enough for us is the overall decision. It was just noted that one scored more in less appearances, but actually it's the reverse when you consider time actually on the pitch to goal ratio. Both are not good enough whichever way you look at it. 

[Happinesstan]

3 minutes ago, hakka said:

 

Not quite sure what your argument is, but both are not good enough for us is the overall decision. It was just noted that one scored more in less appearances, but actually it's the reverse when you consider time actually on the pitch to goal ratio. Both are not good enough whichever way you look at it. 

I just remember liking Gayle after seeing him come on as a sub to score goals. It made him look like a natural PL striker in development. Looking back though, I remember a couple being the final goal in a comfortable victory, so a lot less pressure coming off the bench. With the opposition tired and chasing the game.

 

 

Edited October 26, 2021 by Happinesstan

[hakka]

3 minutes ago, Happinesstan said:

I just remember liking Gayle after seeing him come on as a sub to score goals. It made him look like a natural PL striker in development. Looking back though, I remember a couple being the final goal in a comfortable victory, so a lot less pressure coming off the bench. With the opposition tired and chasing the game.

 

 

 

 

OK I get what you're saying which is the nuanced difference to how they've been utilised. I think it would be fair to say if you gave Gayle more time he may have scored more and if you have Mitro more late sub appearances he would have scored less? Unless we're saying Gayle only does it off the bench when we are in top? - to be honest it's a hypothetical not worth thinking too deeply on. I don't want either here and don't value them as Premier League strikers for us.

 

 

Edited October 26, 2021 by hakka
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[Happinesstan]

3 minutes ago, hakka said:

OK I get what you're saying which is the nuanced difference to how they've been utilised

More how they were developed. Gayle was afforded the time to develop into a PL forward and has failed. Mitrovic was leading the line for a PL team at 19 or something. I don't disagree with the conclusion that neither has developed into a PL forward. But Mitro still has a chance.

[Dr.Spaceman]

2 hours ago, Happinesstan said:

More how they were developed. Gayle was afforded the time to develop into a PL forward and has failed. Mitrovic was leading the line for a PL team at 19 or something. I don't disagree with the conclusion that neither has developed into a PL forward. But Mitro still has a chance.

 

People will still be saying this when he's 30 

 

He's utter shite, man.

[Beth]

Will get his usual 6 or 7 in the PL if they're promoted again.

[Billy Pilgrim]

He’s too slow for the premier league imo. And never looked fit, so many times he was through and hit a daisy cutter with jelly legs. Better than big joe mind.