Aleksandar Mitrović

[Tiresias]

He is just raw and yeah wish he had some pace. It could go either way of course but he's young

[Interpolic]

I still like him, would be surprised if he doesn't go on to have a good career.

[jimmymag]

 

He's snail slow and his finishing is awful. I don't get why so many on here think he could be a world beater in a few years time.

 

Come on man... open your eyes a little bit. There's clearly something there. He has some ability and a presence. And how old is he?

 

He's absolutely f***ing dog-s***.

 

f*** off

 

He's a 21 unproven striker expected to lead the line for the majority of a season in a s*** team. He's missed some sitters but he's shown plenty, in my opinion, to suggest there's a player there.

So tell me what attributes he has to succeed in the PL?

 

Strength, power, heading ability, (hasn't shown it too much for us but I've seen evidence of a good finisher elsewhere), presence, decent enough hold up play / link up play.

 

I'll flip this around, because so many people on this board absolutely wank over Perez, but I see very little difference in the potential of both players (although they're very different in style).

 

He's fucking ordinary at best man. Not worth persevering with unless we're looking to consolidate in the Championship.

[LoveItIfWeBeatU]

They say as a striker you shouldn't worry about missing chances. The time to worry is when they stop getting into goal scoring situations. Mitro broke that saying this season. He's missed so many chances. He had at least 3 today. You'd expect a competent striker to score at least one of them.

[Kaizero]

I'm with hindu. Also highly rated by TKK, whose opinion I appreciate greatly.

 

He clearly has the talent. We've just not been able to feed him. In this situation, sure, we should have had a more proven and profilic striker due to the few chances we've made. But, on the other hand, if we could actually create good chances more regularily, we'd see a higher goal tally from Mitro as well.

[jimmymag]

I'm with hindu. Also highly rated by TKK, whose opinion I appreciate greatly.

 

He clearly has the talent. We've just not been able to feed him. In this situation, sure, we should have had a more proven and profilic striker due to the few chances we've made. But, on the other hand, if we could actually create good chances more regularily, we'd see a higher goal tally from Mitro as well.

 

For what? He's lumbering, cumbersome and whatever the opposite of clinical is.

[Kaizero]

I'm with hindu. Also highly rated by TKK, whose opinion I appreciate greatly.

 

He clearly has the talent. We've just not been able to feed him. In this situation, sure, we should have had a more proven and profilic striker due to the few chances we've made. But, on the other hand, if we could actually create good chances more regularily, we'd see a higher goal tally from Mitro as well.

 

For what? He's lumbering, cumbersome and whatever the opposite of clinical is.

 

He was one of the highest rated prospects in Europe before joining us, and had been scoring for fun before, albeit in "lesser" leagues. If you'd look at the goals he scored at Anderlecht for instance, I think it becomes clear that the main issue is him not getting the service needed for him to find his feet in the PL. He shouldn't be leading the line for us, but that's not his fault. We should've had a more clinical striker, proven in the PL to survive. That doesn't mean this guy isn't a massive talent though. Just that we threw him into the deep end and told him to beat Michael Phelps at swimming before teaching him how to swim.

[Tooj]

I still like him, would be surprised if he doesn't go on to have a good career.

[Holloway]

 

He's snail slow and his finishing is awful. I don't get why so many on here think he could be a world beater in a few years time.

 

Come on man... open your eyes a little bit. There's clearly something there. He has some ability and a presence. And how old is he?

 

He's absolutely f***ing dog-s***.

 

f*** off

 

He's a 21 unproven striker expected to lead the line for the majority of a season in a s*** team. He's missed some sitters but he's shown plenty, in my opinion, to suggest there's a player there.

So tell me what attributes he has to succeed in the PL?

 

Strength, power, heading ability, (hasn't shown it too much for us but I've seen evidence of a good finisher elsewhere), presence, decent enough hold up play / link up play.

 

I'll flip this around, because so many people on this board absolutely w*** over Perez, but I see very little difference in the potential of both players (although they're very different in style).

This is a good point, Perez is a bit of a darling on here

[jimmymag]

I'm with hindu. Also highly rated by TKK, whose opinion I appreciate greatly.

 

He clearly has the talent. We've just not been able to feed him. In this situation, sure, we should have had a more proven and profilic striker due to the few chances we've made. But, on the other hand, if we could actually create good chances more regularily, we'd see a higher goal tally from Mitro as well.

 

For what? He's lumbering, cumbersome and whatever the opposite of clinical is.

 

He was one of the highest rated prospects in Europe before joining us, and had been scoring for fun before, albeit in "lesser" leagues. If you'd look at the goals he scored at Anderlecht for instance, I think it becomes clear that the main issue is him not getting the service needed for him to find his feet in the PL. He shouldn't be leading the line for us, but that's not his fault. We should've had a more clinical striker, proven in the PL to survive. That doesn't mean this guy isn't a massive talent though. Just that we threw him into the deep end and told him to beat Michael Phelps at swimming before teaching him how to swim.

 

"Massive talent" he certainly isn't, proven by some horrendous misses and the fact that he can barely run, for fucks sake.

[Kaizero]

I'm with hindu. Also highly rated by TKK, whose opinion I appreciate greatly.

 

He clearly has the talent. We've just not been able to feed him. In this situation, sure, we should have had a more proven and profilic striker due to the few chances we've made. But, on the other hand, if we could actually create good chances more regularily, we'd see a higher goal tally from Mitro as well.

 

For what? He's lumbering, cumbersome and whatever the opposite of clinical is.

 

He was one of the highest rated prospects in Europe before joining us, and had been scoring for fun before, albeit in "lesser" leagues. If you'd look at the goals he scored at Anderlecht for instance, I think it becomes clear that the main issue is him not getting the service needed for him to find his feet in the PL. He shouldn't be leading the line for us, but that's not his fault. We should've had a more clinical striker, proven in the PL to survive. That doesn't mean this guy isn't a massive talent though. Just that we threw him into the deep end and told him to beat Michael Phelps at swimming before teaching him how to swim.

 

"Massive talent" he certainly isn't, proven by some horrendous misses and the fact that he can barely run, for fucks sake.

 

Horrendous misses from horrendous crosses/passes. You can't just fault one party for shitness, man. It's incredibly shortsighted. Only 23 more players have more goals than him in the PL this season. Not saying that is good by any stretch of the imagination, but it makes him about a 1 in 4 striker in the PL so far. Which isn't what we needed, granted. But with a proven striker leading the line, I'd 10 out of 10 times rather see Mitro on than Perez, for instance.

 

The issue, again, is that he was thrown into the deep end. If we had players around him that could create chances, in a system that was suited to him (which McClarens definiately was not), it could very well have been a different season. Sure, he's missed some howlers. I'm not saying he hasn't. But the absolute bullshit blame being put on him is beyond ridiculous given we know which other players have been in charge of creating his chances.

 

Put him in a functioning team that can create chances, and he'll do very well. He's 21 after all. Knowing the fact he gets one or two real chances in a match and knowing that he has to convert one of them because that's all there'll be this time around isn't the easiest thing to carry with him mentally going into games.

[Kaizero]

While he would have no doubt had more chances, and probably more goals, if the delivery had been better throughout the season...when the chances fall he has fucked up too much for someone that is supposed to be great. Age or experience mean nothing when you're actually in a goalscoring position. You either hit the target (and back up claims of you being a talent) or miss. More often than not he misses. He had two very good heading opportunities, today, and has nobody but himself to blame for missing the target. He then tried to chip the keeper where a simpler shot would have been more likely to hit the net. That was poor decision making.

 

I agree that he has a career a head of him...but he's squandered too many gilt-edged chances. A massive talent wouldn't have so I can't agree with that appraisal of him. A miss a game is to be expected...but not at the consistency he has.

 

But, I do like the guy's attitude. If the potential can be released then who knows.

 

A 1 in 2 striker at Anderlect and Partizan though. And if you check out some of his goals, you know he's capable of scoring.

 

I maintain that we threw him in the deep end, and the mental stress of being the sole person capable of scoring goals in the team wasn't an easy burden to bear, which led to him questioning his abilities and a loss of confidence in front of goal that in turn led to him snatching at chances to try to get back on the horse. If he'd been eased in at the rate a normal club would have done, he'd probably never have dropped his head like he clearly has this season.

 

It's a silly argument anyway. Perez has missed tons of sitters. Wini has missed tons of sitters. Cisse has missed a fuckton of sitters. They're all to blame. This is a failed unit, not a failed guy. Why praise Perez like a god when he's fucked up pretty much as many chances as Mitrovic? Would you seriously be more confident with Perez leading the line than Mitro? With Cisse?

 

The thing is though, as mentioned beyond boredom, he shouldn't have been the one with all the pressure to perform. We should've had a more proven PL striker as first choice. This doesn't mean that they guy can't, in time, become that proven striker though. And he has shown enough glimpses this season to back that claim up. We just focus on his mistakes because we can't score goals for shit, which, again, isn't his problem, as he shouldn't be in the position as our 1st choice striker at this point regardless. The fuck up is not bringing in a proven striker, not Mitro having an ok-ish first season for a 21 year old import if places in any mid-table team. He has two more goals to his name than Bournemouths top scorer, even, and they're wanking themselves silly over King.

[triggs]

Nobody praises Perez' performance anymore. He did a lot better last season in a worse situation for the majority of it than Mitro did this season though

[Holloway]

Failed unit, nailed it.

[LoveItIfWeBeatU]

All the players employed by NUFC to score goals are poor at that job. It shows how far we've fallen that people's favourite players are so mediocre. My favourite Newcastle players were always the goal scorers. I don't really have a favourite player these days. We don't have any regular goal scorers and haven't for a while.

[Kaizero]

Nobody praises Perez' performance anymore. He did a lot better last season in a worse situation for the majority of it than Mitro did this season though

 

The issue isn't that we should've had a more proven striker though. The issue is that people are writing Mitro off for no reason when he's had a decent season in any other aspect than as a 1st choice striker for Newcastle United.

 

He shouldn't have been 1st choice, we know that. My issue is that people are blaming him when he's in all honesty had a decent 1st season in the PL in any other scenario than him being 1st choice striker, which we all know he shouldn't have been. So why the hatred directed at him?

[Marmoset]

It's management's fault we chose to place our eggs in his basket, not his.

 

He hasn't been good enough this season.

 

Not much more  needs to be said really.

[LoveItIfWeBeatU]

I don't hate him, I just don't rate him. He has no pace and his finishing is poor. He may come good one day but that doesn't help us right now. Cisse is awful these days, Riviere is terrible and Perez has had a poor season. All our strikers have failed (along with the majority of the team).

[triggs]

Nobody praises Perez' performance anymore. He did a lot better last season in a worse situation for the majority of it than Mitro did this season though

 

At what point was last season worse than this?

It was a worse situation for Perez. Perez is a physically small lad played up front by himself for most of the season in a long ball team and did a pretty good job overall in a position which he wasn't suited to. Mitrovic is a big strong guy playing in his best position and didn't show as much

[alpal78]

Look, the 2 most important attributes for a striker is finishing and pace. Mitrovic has neither and you don't develop these attributes suddenly. I can sort of understand that he was under pressure and that somehow rationalized his poor finishing, but you either have pace or you don't. Most young strikers who turn to be world class have pace in abundance. If he can't sprint to beat Villa's central defenders at age 21, just accept it that he's slow as snail. That ain't changing anytime soon or ever.

 

Though not this season, but at least Cisse and Perez gave us a few good seasons and those I will cherish and remember. I will just remember Mitrovic as a slow donkey. Might as well cut our losses and sell him off.

 

 

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[Kaizero]

A 1 in 2 striker can finish. And Mitro can finish. We've seen it on a few occasions.

 

If we don't feed him, especially as he's fucking new in the PL, he will have issues. Yeah, he's fluffed chances. But he's not been given enough chances.

 

Again, the issue here isn't his ability. It's the fact he should never have been our 1st choice striker. This is what people seem to be getting confused.

[Deuce]

A 1 in 2 striker can finish. And Mitro can finish. We've seen it on a few occasions.

 

If we don't feed him, especially as he's fucking new in the PL, he will have issues. Yeah, he's fluffed chances. But he's not been given enough chances.

 

Again, the issue here isn't his ability. It's the fact he should never have been our 1st choice striker. This is what people seem to be getting confused.

 

[Gallowgate Toon]

If only we'd bought a goalscorer in Jan Mitro could make it as a 15-a-season PL striker in time but that's not now, awful it was put to him and Cisse to keep us up. I hope he stays and continues to develop here. We've got some promising young talent at the club, I just hope we can keep the core and mix it with the right level of experience next season.

[alpal78]

I don't get that this he doesn't get enough chance argument. It's an outright lie. Sure he doesn't get crosses raining in from all direction or through passes for that matter (which he wouldn't have been able to run to anyway). We're not a f***ing top 4 team or Barcelona that will create tons of chances for a strikers. Every game he's played, he's had at least 2-3 clear chances and a few more half chances and he usually fluffs them all. He gets chances fitting for a mid table team, he just can't finish them to save his life.

 

Besides as a striker, you don't just wait for chances to fall your way. You have to create your own space and shoot. How many times did we see him beat a defender and shoot? How many times did we see him sprint past a defender? None, that tells it all about his bullshit potential.

 

 

 

 

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[Kaizero]

I don't get that this he doesn't get enough chance argument. It's an outright lie. Sure he doesn't get crosses raining in from all direction or through passes for that matter (which he wouldn't have been able to run to anyway). We're not a fucking top 4 team or Barcelona that will create tons of chances for a strikes. Every game he's played, he's had at least 2-3 clear chances and a few more half chances and he usually fluffs them all. He gets chances fitting for a mid table team, he just can't finish them to save his life.

 

Besides as a striker, you don't just wait for chances to fall your way. You have to create your own space and shoot. How many times did we see him beat a defender and shoot? How many times did we see him sprint pass a defender? None, that tells it all about his bullshit potential.

 

Again, he has scored more than the top goalscorers of a few mid-table teams. In any other scenario this would've been a great first season for a 21 year old PL import.

 

You are judging his potential and skills based on the expectations you have of a 1st choice striker. Not of a 21 year old PL import. Which is wrong. This is the issue. He's not a 1st choice striker, and we fucked up by making him ours due to neglecting to buy a proven PL striker. That does not equate to this season having not been on par with what would've been expected of him if we had done so, though.

 

A perfect example of this season being on par with the expectations we should have had is the poll in this thread, where the majority placed him in the 6-10 goal range - which is where he ended up.