Aiston Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I like Mitrovic, he could find his stride with English football with a year below.. did Andy Carroll wonders as well. Mitrovic isn't anywhere near the level of Carroll was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 21 year old 'target man' striker brought in from abroad with the expectation of instantly hitting 20 goals to keep a team up. Not one player brought in who specialises in crossing and no other player at the club who works well from flick on's / knock downs. Blame 21 year old striker for being s***. That's BS. 20 goals? 10 would have been nice. Or at least hits the target whenever he gets a chance. We were hoping for a useful striker. Instead we got a donkey! Aye. I want to like him but he's simply not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Neesy, who is Mark D? He's an absolute mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Neesy, who is Mark D? He's an absolute mess. A Mackem school friend. Like I said, obsessed with us like most mackems are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Neesy, who is Mark D? He's an absolute mess. A Mackem school friend. Like I said, obsessed with us like most mackems are. Set his house on fire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Just seen that header that was deemed a good chance by the haters on here, what guffage man, that was a good effort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 The next one was terrible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 He's absolutely fucking dog-shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Is he fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 He's snail slow and his finishing is awful. I don't get why so many on here think he could be a world beater in a few years time. Come on man... open your eyes a little bit. There's clearly something there. He has some ability and a presence. And how old is he? He's absolutely f***ing dog-s***. Fuck off He's a 21 unproven striker expected to lead the line for the majority of a season in a shit team. He's missed some sitters but he's shown plenty, in my opinion, to suggest there's a player there. So tell me what attributes he has to succeed in the PL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 He's snail slow and his finishing is awful. I don't get why so many on here think he could be a world beater in a few years time. Come on man... open your eyes a little bit. There's clearly something there. He has some ability and a presence. And how old is he? He's absolutely f***ing dog-s***. Fuck off He's a 21 unproven striker expected to lead the line for the majority of a season in a shit team. He's missed some sitters but he's shown plenty, in my opinion, to suggest there's a player there. He's a fucking embarrassment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 He's basically Connor Wickham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 He is just raw and yeah wish he had some pace. It could go either way of course but he's young Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I still like him, would be surprised if he doesn't go on to have a good career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 He's snail slow and his finishing is awful. I don't get why so many on here think he could be a world beater in a few years time. Come on man... open your eyes a little bit. There's clearly something there. He has some ability and a presence. And how old is he? He's absolutely f***ing dog-s***. f*** off He's a 21 unproven striker expected to lead the line for the majority of a season in a s*** team. He's missed some sitters but he's shown plenty, in my opinion, to suggest there's a player there. So tell me what attributes he has to succeed in the PL? Strength, power, heading ability, (hasn't shown it too much for us but I've seen evidence of a good finisher elsewhere), presence, decent enough hold up play / link up play. I'll flip this around, because so many people on this board absolutely wank over Perez, but I see very little difference in the potential of both players (although they're very different in style). He's fucking ordinary at best man. Not worth persevering with unless we're looking to consolidate in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 They say as a striker you shouldn't worry about missing chances. The time to worry is when they stop getting into goal scoring situations. Mitro broke that saying this season. He's missed so many chances. He had at least 3 today. You'd expect a competent striker to score at least one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I'm with hindu. Also highly rated by TKK, whose opinion I appreciate greatly. He clearly has the talent. We've just not been able to feed him. In this situation, sure, we should have had a more proven and profilic striker due to the few chances we've made. But, on the other hand, if we could actually create good chances more regularily, we'd see a higher goal tally from Mitro as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I'm with hindu. Also highly rated by TKK, whose opinion I appreciate greatly. He clearly has the talent. We've just not been able to feed him. In this situation, sure, we should have had a more proven and profilic striker due to the few chances we've made. But, on the other hand, if we could actually create good chances more regularily, we'd see a higher goal tally from Mitro as well. For what? He's lumbering, cumbersome and whatever the opposite of clinical is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I'm with hindu. Also highly rated by TKK, whose opinion I appreciate greatly. He clearly has the talent. We've just not been able to feed him. In this situation, sure, we should have had a more proven and profilic striker due to the few chances we've made. But, on the other hand, if we could actually create good chances more regularily, we'd see a higher goal tally from Mitro as well. For what? He's lumbering, cumbersome and whatever the opposite of clinical is. He was one of the highest rated prospects in Europe before joining us, and had been scoring for fun before, albeit in "lesser" leagues. If you'd look at the goals he scored at Anderlecht for instance, I think it becomes clear that the main issue is him not getting the service needed for him to find his feet in the PL. He shouldn't be leading the line for us, but that's not his fault. We should've had a more clinical striker, proven in the PL to survive. That doesn't mean this guy isn't a massive talent though. Just that we threw him into the deep end and told him to beat Michael Phelps at swimming before teaching him how to swim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I still like him, would be surprised if he doesn't go on to have a good career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 He's snail slow and his finishing is awful. I don't get why so many on here think he could be a world beater in a few years time. Come on man... open your eyes a little bit. There's clearly something there. He has some ability and a presence. And how old is he? He's absolutely f***ing dog-s***. f*** off He's a 21 unproven striker expected to lead the line for the majority of a season in a s*** team. He's missed some sitters but he's shown plenty, in my opinion, to suggest there's a player there. So tell me what attributes he has to succeed in the PL? Strength, power, heading ability, (hasn't shown it too much for us but I've seen evidence of a good finisher elsewhere), presence, decent enough hold up play / link up play. I'll flip this around, because so many people on this board absolutely w*** over Perez, but I see very little difference in the potential of both players (although they're very different in style). This is a good point, Perez is a bit of a darling on here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I'm with hindu. Also highly rated by TKK, whose opinion I appreciate greatly. He clearly has the talent. We've just not been able to feed him. In this situation, sure, we should have had a more proven and profilic striker due to the few chances we've made. But, on the other hand, if we could actually create good chances more regularily, we'd see a higher goal tally from Mitro as well. For what? He's lumbering, cumbersome and whatever the opposite of clinical is. He was one of the highest rated prospects in Europe before joining us, and had been scoring for fun before, albeit in "lesser" leagues. If you'd look at the goals he scored at Anderlecht for instance, I think it becomes clear that the main issue is him not getting the service needed for him to find his feet in the PL. He shouldn't be leading the line for us, but that's not his fault. We should've had a more clinical striker, proven in the PL to survive. That doesn't mean this guy isn't a massive talent though. Just that we threw him into the deep end and told him to beat Michael Phelps at swimming before teaching him how to swim. "Massive talent" he certainly isn't, proven by some horrendous misses and the fact that he can barely run, for fucks sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I'm with hindu. Also highly rated by TKK, whose opinion I appreciate greatly. He clearly has the talent. We've just not been able to feed him. In this situation, sure, we should have had a more proven and profilic striker due to the few chances we've made. But, on the other hand, if we could actually create good chances more regularily, we'd see a higher goal tally from Mitro as well. For what? He's lumbering, cumbersome and whatever the opposite of clinical is. He was one of the highest rated prospects in Europe before joining us, and had been scoring for fun before, albeit in "lesser" leagues. If you'd look at the goals he scored at Anderlecht for instance, I think it becomes clear that the main issue is him not getting the service needed for him to find his feet in the PL. He shouldn't be leading the line for us, but that's not his fault. We should've had a more clinical striker, proven in the PL to survive. That doesn't mean this guy isn't a massive talent though. Just that we threw him into the deep end and told him to beat Michael Phelps at swimming before teaching him how to swim. "Massive talent" he certainly isn't, proven by some horrendous misses and the fact that he can barely run, for fucks sake. Horrendous misses from horrendous crosses/passes. You can't just fault one party for shitness, man. It's incredibly shortsighted. Only 23 more players have more goals than him in the PL this season. Not saying that is good by any stretch of the imagination, but it makes him about a 1 in 4 striker in the PL so far. Which isn't what we needed, granted. But with a proven striker leading the line, I'd 10 out of 10 times rather see Mitro on than Perez, for instance. The issue, again, is that he was thrown into the deep end. If we had players around him that could create chances, in a system that was suited to him (which McClarens definiately was not), it could very well have been a different season. Sure, he's missed some howlers. I'm not saying he hasn't. But the absolute bullshit blame being put on him is beyond ridiculous given we know which other players have been in charge of creating his chances. Put him in a functioning team that can create chances, and he'll do very well. He's 21 after all. Knowing the fact he gets one or two real chances in a match and knowing that he has to convert one of them because that's all there'll be this time around isn't the easiest thing to carry with him mentally going into games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 While he would have no doubt had more chances, and probably more goals, if the delivery had been better throughout the season...when the chances fall he has fucked up too much for someone that is supposed to be great. Age or experience mean nothing when you're actually in a goalscoring position. You either hit the target (and back up claims of you being a talent) or miss. More often than not he misses. He had two very good heading opportunities, today, and has nobody but himself to blame for missing the target. He then tried to chip the keeper where a simpler shot would have been more likely to hit the net. That was poor decision making. I agree that he has a career a head of him...but he's squandered too many gilt-edged chances. A massive talent wouldn't have so I can't agree with that appraisal of him. A miss a game is to be expected...but not at the consistency he has. But, I do like the guy's attitude. If the potential can be released then who knows. A 1 in 2 striker at Anderlect and Partizan though. And if you check out some of his goals, you know he's capable of scoring. I maintain that we threw him in the deep end, and the mental stress of being the sole person capable of scoring goals in the team wasn't an easy burden to bear, which led to him questioning his abilities and a loss of confidence in front of goal that in turn led to him snatching at chances to try to get back on the horse. If he'd been eased in at the rate a normal club would have done, he'd probably never have dropped his head like he clearly has this season. It's a silly argument anyway. Perez has missed tons of sitters. Wini has missed tons of sitters. Cisse has missed a fuckton of sitters. They're all to blame. This is a failed unit, not a failed guy. Why praise Perez like a god when he's fucked up pretty much as many chances as Mitrovic? Would you seriously be more confident with Perez leading the line than Mitro? With Cisse? The thing is though, as mentioned beyond boredom, he shouldn't have been the one with all the pressure to perform. We should've had a more proven PL striker as first choice. This doesn't mean that they guy can't, in time, become that proven striker though. And he has shown enough glimpses this season to back that claim up. We just focus on his mistakes because we can't score goals for shit, which, again, isn't his problem, as he shouldn't be in the position as our 1st choice striker at this point regardless. The fuck up is not bringing in a proven striker, not Mitro having an ok-ish first season for a 21 year old import if places in any mid-table team. He has two more goals to his name than Bournemouths top scorer, even, and they're wanking themselves silly over King. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Nobody praises Perez' performance anymore. He did a lot better last season in a worse situation for the majority of it than Mitro did this season though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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