jackyboy Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I always think that Mitro fails to impress in the big games by trying too hard and often getting into trouble. I thought in Villas final run in and play offs he was very ordinary, almost cumbersome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I always think that Mitro fails to impress in the big games by trying too hard and often getting into trouble. I thought in Villas final run in and play offs he was very ordinary, almost cumbersome. Well that's your fault for watching villa expecting to see him shine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I always think that Mitro fails to impress in the big games by trying too hard and often getting into trouble. I thought in Villas final run in and play offs he was very ordinary, almost cumbersome. He’s never going to be that kind of match winner or big game player because he doesn’t have the skills, pace or creativity to effect a game by himself as a player. He’s someone who relies massively on the team to have a say rather than him being the one that has the final say. He is an ordinary player, but can score goals if given the right service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I wouldn't take the risk. With us, he was a very costly failure, and that could be to do with the extra pressure of playing for our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I always think that Mitro fails to impress in the big games by trying too hard and often getting into trouble. I thought in Villas final run in and play offs he was very ordinary, almost cumbersome. Well that's your fault for watching villa expecting to see him shine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Regardless of his style of play, he's making a mockery of the Misstrovic tag he was given. Was scoring goals for us in pre-season and a couple early on too. Even in a Rafa system I think he could do something. His goals per minute ratio under Benitez is decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Regardless of his style of play, he's making a mockery of the Misstrovic tag he was given. Was scoring goals for us in pre-season and a couple early on too. Even in a Rafa system I think he could do something. His goals per minute ratio under Benitez is decent. He's bang average mate, all he does is score lots of goals. I'd much rather have a player with a bit of guile (like Gayle) who never scores, but at least he doesn't try too hard etc etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I know who WONT be getting my vote for best foreign poster I expect to be well into the negative this year. Been a right cunt tbh, no excuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aleksandar-mitrovic-scores-again-possible-14766442 As Aleksandar Mitrovic scores again, is it possible Rafa Benitez would have rethink? Aleksandar Mitrovic's price is rocketing with every goal and we may see him in a Newcastle shirt again By Mark Douglas Had you offered Newcastle United fans a £20million-rated striker heading to the World Cup who had hit 12 goals in 18 Championship games and an England under-21 forward who was one of the stars of the Toulon Tournament as their attacking incomings this summer, few would have turned their noses up. Given that the Magpies – before their summer recruitment kicks into gear – can count on a £6million striker who looks just that and Dwight Gayle, who hardly answered the critics who claim his level is plundering goals in the Championship, it seems strange that it is Aleksandar Mitrovic and Adam Armstrong who face uncertain futures rather than their striking team-mates. Mitrovic scored a superb hat-trick on Saturday night as he continued his red-hot form in 2018. For all that Rafa Benitez has explained why the Serbia striker does not fit into his plans for Newcastle, it does seem like a crying shame that there might not be one last chance for a striker who is making the most of the minutes he has been afforded this year. Granted, Bolivia are not heading to the World Cup and offered precious little resistance against a Serbia side that look motivated ahead of this week’s World Cup kick-off. But Mitrovic looks lean and raring to go and his hat-trick goal was a wonderfully weighted long-range effort that would seem to confirm that when he’s playing with confidence he is a force. To recap: Benitez felt last term that his team would be up against it for long periods so Mitrovic was a luxury he couldn’t afford. “I couldn’t guarantee the way that we wanted to play (he would play),” he said back in February at a live podcast recording . This was before the Fulham goals, before we knew the summer recruitment plans would hinge on selling him for big money. But it was revealing. “If you know Mitro really well – if you attack and you create a lot of chances and crosses he will score goals, no doubt that. But a team that has 40-45 or even 35% possession in some games, you have to defend in some games, you have to play counter-attack. If you don’t have all these players who can do that and you have to sacrifice something. “We were talking about the main thing of this team – it is the team, the organisation of the team. If we don’t do that, we will be exposed. When we went 1-0 up against Man United (in the Old Trafford game) or Chelsea, we were a little bit open and we conceded. “In the FA Cup against Chelsea we had to attack in the second half so we were open and we conceded. We couldn’t manage it. The team is the key and the characteristic of the players are crucial. For me, I have to do the best for both.” That made sense when Newcastle were where they were in February, struggling to squeeze every point. But when they had Kenedy making them more expansive and Martin Dubravka allowing them to play out from the back, there was a different dimension to the side. Could Mitrovic – or this Mitrovic, anyhow – have looked a bit more at home? Mitrovic says that he would be open to move to Fulham but it’s also understood that he has not shut the door on a return to Newcastle IF Benitez was to give him more opportunities. The striker has remained respectful and has even spoken to Benitez and Newcastle at the end of his season with Fulham – with Benitez sending personal congratulations to the forward on winning promotion with the Cottagers. It would be one hell of a U-turn but Benitez has always said that there was nothing personal about his decision not to play Mitrovic. If he thinks it would work for Newcastle, he would be happy to shelve his ego and work with Mitrovic again. The striker’s 18 goals last season and continued improvement internationally will be giving him food for thought – as well as pushing his value up. While United were initially looking for £20million the price is now understood to be higher. If he has a good World Cup Newcastle will be wanting closer to £30million, which is why they haven’t entertained quick business. If there is one thing Newcastle have always done well under Mike Ashley it’s be difficult sellers, and Lee Charnley will be well aware that Joe Kinnear paid with his job when he undersold Yohan Cabaye. No doubt there will be some who counsel that Mitrovic should be given another shot. It still seems unlikely. Privately Benitez had spoken of the need to refresh the team and sees other options as better for Newcastle moving forward. To get the team set up to play the way he would want them to play with Mitrovic leading the line would require some serious, expensive surgery and would go against his instincts. But the Islam Slimani experiment failed and Sunday reports of interest in Salomon Rondon do not excite . There is always the possibility that Benitez will not get anyone of the required calibre to lead the line and then what? Mitrovic is worth more than any other Newcastle striker and if he returns in pre-season with Benitez prepared to play him, there won’t be too many Newcastle fans feeling upset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 If Mitrovic has a good world cup, and we are able to add a couple of players that can help improve our possession and attacking play, I definitely feel like Rafa will keep Mitro and give him a chance to lead the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 If Mitrovic has a good world cup, and we are able to add a couple of players that can help improve our possession and attacking play, I definitely feel like Rafa will keep Mitro and give him a chance to lead the line. To be honest I think it just makes it more and more likely that Rafa will sell him if it's his decision. He doesn't like Mitro and if someone will give us 25m he'll take it so we can buy 2 grafters instead. Not intended to be a criticism of Rafa but I think this is just how he works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 If Mitrovic has a good world cup, and we are able to add a couple of players that can help improve our possession and attacking play, I definitely feel like Rafa will keep Mitro and give him a chance to lead the line. He’ll win the golden boot and we’ll sell him for £50m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 The fact is though, buying a striker is expensive business, even if we got 20 million for him, I don't see a simple task in replacing him with a player as capable in front of goal for that amount. Rondon, ffs, that takes up the bulk of the fee and replaces him with a player with a far worse goals/minute whose older and frankly not proven anything in this country. In this market it really doesn't make a lot of sense to sell him for less than 30 million, because you simply can't replace him with someone who can score at the same or better rate and has time on his side to develop like Mitro has. How much would Chelsea want for Abraham for example, bidding probably starts at 25 million, they sold a very average Ake for 20 million last year. So with agent fees and signing bonuses and shit like that, that Ashley insists on including, you are barely breaking even and your replacement has a worse goals/mins ratio in the PL than the player you are letting go. Personally think Rafa needs to rethink here, see if he can work him into his system, or tweak it a little unless someone comes along with a ridiculous 30 million plus bid, then snatch their hands off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 The fact is though, buying a striker is expensive business, even if we got 20 million for him, I don't see a simple task in replacing him with a player as capable in front of goal for that amount. Rondon, ffs, that takes up the bulk of the fee and replaces him with a player with a far worse goals/minute whose older and frankly not proven anything in this country. In this market it really doesn't make a lot of sense to sell him for less than 30 million, because you simply can't replace him with someone who can score at the same or better rate and has time on his side to develop like Mitro has. How much would Chelsea want for Abraham for example, bidding probably starts at 25 million, they sold a very average Ake for 20 million last year. So with agent fees and signing bonuses and shit like that, that Ashley insists on including, you are barely breaking even and your replacement has a worse goals/mins ratio in the PL than the player you are letting go. Personally think Rafa needs to rethink here, see if he can work him into his system, or tweak it a little unless someone comes along with a ridiculous 30 million plus bid, then snatch their hands off. I think if Rafa could replace Mitro with Abraham for the same money, he probably would tbh. Fits his style of play more, and that's assuming he didn't think Mitro had the right attitude. Just a hunch though, could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Going off the strikers that we've went for lately under Rafa (Slimani/Jorgensen) I don't see how either of these are better that Mitro, especially taking into account his potential and his form at the moment. Rafa is the man but getting rid of him would be a mistake, even if we sold Mitro we still wouldn't break our transfer record and £15m is not going to get us anything better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 The fact is though, buying a striker is expensive business, even if we got 20 million for him, I don't see a simple task in replacing him with a player as capable in front of goal for that amount. Rondon, ffs, that takes up the bulk of the fee and replaces him with a player with a far worse goals/minute whose older and frankly not proven anything in this country. In this market it really doesn't make a lot of sense to sell him for less than 30 million, because you simply can't replace him with someone who can score at the same or better rate and has time on his side to develop like Mitro has. How much would Chelsea want for Abraham for example, bidding probably starts at 25 million, they sold a very average Ake for 20 million last year. So with agent fees and signing bonuses and shit like that, that Ashley insists on including, you are barely breaking even and your replacement has a worse goals/mins ratio in the PL than the player you are letting go. Personally think Rafa needs to rethink here, see if he can work him into his system, or tweak it a little unless someone comes along with a ridiculous 30 million plus bid, then snatch their hands off. Mitro can't run, so will never work for Rafa! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 After seeing Golovin's value jump by about £20m yesterday is exactly the reason we should wait until after the WC to entertain any offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 On the other hand, he could break his leg in the first game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I wonder if Rafa could broker a swap with somewhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Going off the strikers that we've went for lately under Rafa (Slimani/Jorgensen) I don't see how either of these are better that Mitro, especially taking into account his potential and his form at the moment. Rafa is the man but getting rid of him would be a mistake, even if we sold Mitro we still wouldn't break our transfer record and £15m is not going to get us anything better. Don't know about Jorgensen, but Slimani would IMO be a much better fit for Rafa's style of play, I still don't think Mitro will work in that system, Rafa would have to change his style of play to accommodate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I love supermac as a player, but as a pundit, the man is painful to read/hear: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aleksandar-mitrovic-isnt-premier-league-14790167 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 The insistence in writing off a young player just seems vindictive to me, even if he does follow it up with "i wish him well" horseshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 The insistence in writing off a young player just seems vindictive to me, even if he does follow it up with "i wish him well" horseshit. It's weird like. The likes of him and Mick Martin seem to hate him, yet do everything they can to say how great someone like Paul Dummett is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjack Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I love supermac as a player, but as a pundit, the man is painful to read/hear: https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aleksandar-mitrovic-isnt-premier-league-14790167 No wonder he can't do well here, when one of our legends is always saying that he sucks. How demoralizing is that? Maybe he has some hidden agenda against him, because he never said a good word about Mitrovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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