Dinho lad Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Lascelles will certainly leave if he knows that Rafa is leaving. He knows that his stocks is not going to get any higher at NUFC without Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I'm just astonished that the words 'I doubt' have been used in the last couple of pages. If there's an offer of £30m+ then he's gone, there's no question. Rafa has no control over it. We've been here before, it happens every year that we're in the top tier. What a fucking joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 The system Rafa plays is perfect for a defender like Lascelles. Ashley Williams looked mint for Swansea, Keane at Burnley, where they were the leaders of a group they were familiar with and a style suited to them. As soon as they went to pastures new where they were the new guys and not the main man anymore, they seemed to have struggled. Huge gamble for Lascelles to move to an Everton for instance. He's got it made here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Michael Keane went for £30M. Lascelles is far better than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Strange how Everton fans (on one of their forums) are so lukewarm about the prospect of him joining, even at the rumoured 30m. His stock must be loser than I thought. All good, we’ll more than gladly keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Keane seemed impressive to me at Burnley whenever I watched him in the same way Lascelles was for us this season. Keane's 16/17 season seemed very similar to Lascelles' 17/18 one so based on that, £30m seems not far off imo. Shouldn't be enough for us to sell though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Big lad in the dressing room, turned Mo into a total machine with his words. We loose him and we are fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Big lad in the dressing room, turned Mo into a total machine with his words. We loose him and we are fucked. He slapped the spirit of Vierra into him. He goes we are absolutely fucked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Big lad in the dressing room, turned Mo into a total machine with his words. We loose him and we are fucked. He slapped the spirit of Vierra into him. He goes we are absolutely fucked Lose him and it’s all over. Rafa, the buzz, Premiership football, any hope for the future. It really will spell the beginning of the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Anything under £30-40m to a club like Everton, I fully agree. £50m plus to someone like Liverpool or Spurs, and the transfer likely happens regardless of who the manager or owner is tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Fuck Liverpool and spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I'll be disgusted if this one happens. Not remotely surprised, but still disgusted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Wouldn't take anything less than IRRELEVANT BECAUSE ASHLEY WILL KEEP IT YOU FOOLS imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNGLEGIONNAIRE Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 He goes and we are not building , we are just repairing a subsequently damaged structure . We have waited so f..kin long for an absolute beast of a captain like this it is insane to think of letting him go , regardless of the fee . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Anything under £30-40m to a club like Everton, I fully agree. £50m plus to someone like Liverpool or Spurs, and the transfer likely happens regardless of who the manager or owner is tbh. That's true. A fucking unpalatable truth, but true. Less than that, the transfer isn't one player but the whole club. It could happen right here. I was thinking that Rafa would stay the season and leave. And surely if Lascelles was being flogged off he'd ask Rafa his counsel, and surely Rafa would advise the player to stay the year. And surely he'd be amenable to that. So if Lascelles was forced out despite Jamaal and Rafa's wishes and their hopes for the 18/19 season, it is a clear marker that Ashley is not going to give Rafa anything out of spite over his refusal to sign a new contract without actions first. So maybe he is going to Everton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Imo he's the one player in the team we can't lose. He brings much more to us than simply being a good defender, he's the captain, the talisman. To sell him now when we're just getting a real team together would be madness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 The rumour looks like it came from Mick Martin, the absolute mess. What an arsehole that bloke is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Would probably never do it, but what would you say IF Rafa was ok with us selling Lascelles for maybe, say 55m? to raise transfer funds? What a waste of time asking this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest The Little Waster Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham-rival-chelsea-for-jamaal-lascelles-transfer-a3856466.html%3famp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 £45m is an awful lot of money, but the problem with any sale is I don't believe Rafa would be given the entirety of those funds to re-invest. The decision has to be made solely by the manager, for football reasons and not financial ones. There can't be a repeat of the Andy Carroll situation where players are sold out from underneath the manager. Rafa won't stand for it and would walk instantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 £45m is an awful lot of money, but the problem with any sale is I don't believe Rafa would be given the entirety of those funds to re-invest. The decision has to be made entirely by the manager, for football reasons and not financial ones. There can't be a repeat of the Andy Carroll situation where players are sold out from underneath the manager. Rafa won't stand for it and would walk instantly. Even though Pardew said Carrol was not for sale he was compliant in the transfer, Rafa wont be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I know how much Rafa rates Lascelles and sees him as an extremely important player and character to have at the club. At the same time he has said that sometimes a club has to sell a player if it's crazy money in order to move forward. Having said that, I doubt Rafa wants him gone, and IF he did it would be on his terms, which it wont be anyway. So if Lascelles leaves I'm expecting disaster more than ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 As others have said, the funds aren't going to be re-invested, 10 years of experience tells us this, so any plans of 'well if we receive X, then we can spend X on player Y and player Z' are fantasy-land, regular football club notions. If he goes for £30m to a club like Everton, then all it does is confirm even further how incompetent our owner and decision-makers are. That said, we can't really be too displeased if he leaves for circa £50m to a CL-caliber club if Jamaal wants to go to a more ambitious club - I would support his decision. Reminiscent of José Enrique to Liverpool, I never held a grudge against him because he said he wanted to go to a more ambitious cub. I don't want to see him leave, but I wouldn't blame him at all. And if Rafa then goes, that's me done with NUFC anyway until MA dies, so I don't care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 We shouldn't sell him at any price. If he's happy to be here, why should we? This bollocks about having to sell is nonsense, he's under a long contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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