Jamaal Lascelles

[U2]

In future, as I thought prior to the game anyway, we should be looking to give our most significant players time off against lower league teams.

Sorry, but fuck that, would like to actually have a go at the cup and try and win it.

 

I want to have a go at the cup as well.  But feel that there needs to be balance with the decisions.  You'd think we could beat Luton without Lascelles and one or two others.

[Unbelievable]

I'd rather a club that actually tried to compete and be the best it can than a club that prioritises "safety" over everything else. We've had the latter for ten years and look where it's got us.

 

We need rid of Ashley and his entire "philosophy" for the club as soon as possible. I feel genuinely frustrated and flabbergasted that so many of our own fans would happily see a considerably weakened side out for a winnable cup game for a slightly better chance of getting something against fucking Swansea at home a full week later. What have we become, seriously?

[Unbelievable]

In future, as I thought prior to the game anyway, we should be looking to give our most significant players time off against lower league teams.

Sorry, but f*** that, would like to actually have a go at the cup and try and win it.

 

I want to have a go at the cup as well.  But feel that there needs to be balance with the decisions.  You'd think we could beat Luton without Lascelles and one or two others.

 

Erm, have you seen our cup record over the past decade mate?

 

Also, what if these players actually want to play the cup games as they themselves would like to progress and perhaps win something in their careers? I know I would look back to being in a cup final or actually winning a cup with more fondness after my career was done than at having finished just above the relegation zone a few seasons going.

[Guest neesy111]

In future, as I thought prior to the game anyway, we should be looking to give our most significant players time off against lower league teams.

Sorry, but f*** that, would like to actually have a go at the cup and try and win it.

 

I want to have a go at the cup as well.  But feel that there needs to be balance with the decisions.  You'd think we could beat Luton without Lascelles and one or two others.

 

Erm, have you seen our cup record over the past decade mate?

 

We were playing league 2 opposition, the way your going on about this you would think we were playing a very decent championship side.

[54]

In future, as I thought prior to the game anyway, we should be looking to give our most significant players time off against lower league teams.

Sorry, but f*** that, would like to actually have a go at the cup and try and win it.

 

I want to have a go at the cup as well.  But feel that there needs to be balance with the decisions.  You'd think we could beat Luton without Lascelles and one or two others.

 

Erm, have you seen our cup record over the past decade mate?

 

We were playing league 2 opposition, the way your going on about this you would think we were playing a very decent championship side.

Got knocked out to Oxford last season like.

 

Edit: You seem to have changed your message.

[Guest neesy111]

In future, as I thought prior to the game anyway, we should be looking to give our most significant players time off against lower league teams.

Sorry, but f*** that, would like to actually have a go at the cup and try and win it.

 

I want to have a go at the cup as well.  But feel that there needs to be balance with the decisions.  You'd think we could beat Luton without Lascelles and one or two others.

 

Erm, have you seen our cup record over the past decade mate?

 

We were playing league 2 opposition, the way your going on about this you would think we were playing a very decent championship side.

Got knocked out to Oxford last season like.

 

I did just remember that.

[Mole_Toonfan]

In future, as I thought prior to the game anyway, we should be looking to give our most significant players time off against lower league teams.

Sorry, but f*** that, would like to actually have a go at the cup and try and win it.

 

Win a cup or get relegated which leads to Rafa leaving and no takeover. I feel some don't understand the importance of staying up this season, i wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if we went down and a takeover got scrapped and Rafa left.

 

It's an extremely possible scenario if we were to go down, in any other season i'm with you 100% but this year is an outlier and i don't think we should jeopardise the potential future. Where as if we stay up, Rafa is obviously going nowhere and a new takeover presents many different opportunities which weren't there before.

 

I'm not saying completely throw games, in fact Lascelles is the only one i'd even consider resting in these games but we all saw how s**** we were during his period out of the team and if another period takes place like that relegation is very likely as is the impending scenario i described.

 

Sure a cup would be fantastic, but honestly i'd take an actual future over it where cups are a lot more likely anyway.

 

 

[Dave]

If we'd played a weakened team and been knocked out or held to a draw the same people would be moaning anyway.

 

Glad it seems to have been precautionary.

[Guest firetotheworks]

 

Bed wetting over.

Hmm, was he smiling?

[Heron]

For me you put out your strongest players up the spine and fringe players in other positions then theoretically, once you've gained your lead you put lesser players on for your key players

[Guest neesy111]

I wouldn't have batted an eye-lid if he wasn't involved.  If we had got a shit result I would had blamed the players that were out there considering that every CB combination we could play even with dummett are full internationals against a league 2 side.  Especially considering lejeune and mbemba are both currently injured.

 

But of-course everything is as black and white as some posters say it is.

[Mole_Toonfan]

For me you put out your strongest players up the spine and fringe players in other positions then theoretically, once you've gained your lead you put lesser players on for your key players

 

I'm not saying you don't, just Lascelles really because of how important he is. Play Merino, Ritchie, Atsu etc etc or ever else you deem important, i don't really think we have many important players tbh.

[Heron]

I wouldn't have batted an eye-lid if he wasn't involved.  If we had got a shit result I would had blamed the players that were out there considering that every CB combination we could play even with dummett are full internationals against a league 2 side.

 

But of-course everything is as black and white as some posters say it is.

You raise a good point Neesy. Any of our first team squad should be beating league 2 opposition theoretically. I'd still go with what I said like for extra safety but you're right.

[Si]

 

Bed wetting over.

Hmm, was he smiling?

Also when he said fine was it like "he's fine" or "damn he's fiiiiiiiine"?

[toontownman]

 

Bed wetting over.

Hmm, was he smiling?

Not sure. Looked angry.

[Unbelievable]

In future, as I thought prior to the game anyway, we should be looking to give our most significant players time off against lower league teams.

Sorry, but f*** that, would like to actually have a go at the cup and try and win it.

 

Win a cup or get relegated which leads to Rafa leaving and no takeover. I feel some don't understand the importance of staying up this season, i wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if we went down and a takeover got scrapped and Rafa left.

 

It's an extremely possible scenario if we were to go down, in any other season i'm with you 100% but this year is an outlier and i don't think we should jeopardise the potential future. Where as if we stay up, Rafa is obviously going nowhere and a new takeover presents many different opportunities which weren't there before.

 

I'm not saying completely throw games, in fact Lascelles is the only one i'd even consider resting in these games but we all saw how s**** we were during his period out of the team and if another period takes place like that relegation is very likely as is the impending scenario i described.

 

Sure a cup would be fantastic, but honestly i'd take an actual future over it where cups are a lot more likely anyway.

 

 

 

Frankly very far fetched to link the minimal risk of a serious injury to a key player in a cup game to the likelihood of Ashley’s willingness to sell up or even Rafa staying. Ashley selling up is dependent on one man and one man only. As is Rafa staying really. I also think that if such a relationship between playing your most influential player in a cup game and the long term future prospects of the club exists, you’ve got the causality wrong. As soon as the club is mathematically safe Ashley will up his asking price again, making a sale less likely rather than more likely in my opinion.

 

Rafa played his strongest team in a cup game. We avoided a replay, worked on our growing confidence in front of goal, are through to the next round and seemingly have come out unscathed. Can’t ask for more really. Much prefer this to another third round exit because we prioritise the league where we are equally shit.

[The College Dropout]

Since returning from injury just 4 weeks ago hes completed 6 PL games and Rafa wanted him to play a 7th?

 

I think he’s the only player to have played every minute of the Xma fixtures. 

 

 

Should’ve been rested.  And given a few days holiday. 

 

He shouldn’t have been in the squad.

[The College Dropout]

All of the others have been rotated and aren’t as important.

[Dave]

 

[Si]

 

I'll cancel the skip.

[Fatwax]

Since returning from injury just 4 weeks ago hes completed 6 PL games and Rafa wanted him to play a 7th?

 

I think he’s the only player to have played every minute of the Xma fixtures. 

 

 

Should’ve been rested.  And given a few days holiday. 

 

He shouldn’t have been in the squad.

 

Yeah, but he’s Rafa Benítez, and you have no professional footballing experience. When Lascelles went off we were loads more vulnerable and you’d have been Captain Hindsight if he hadn’t been in the squad and we’d lost.

[Si]

We won, he's fine. All's good.

[Twinport53]

We won, he's fine. All's good.

 

You spelt Rafa out, wrong.

[The College Dropout]

Since returning from injury just 4 weeks ago hes completed 6 PL games and Rafa wanted him to play a 7th?

 

I think he’s the only player to have played every minute of the Xma fixtures. 

 

 

Should’ve been rested.  And given a few days holiday. 

 

He shouldn’t have been in the squad.

 

Yeah, but he’s Rafa Benítez, and you have no professional footballing experience. When Lascelles went off we were loads more vulnerable and you’d have been Captain Hindsight if he hadn’t been in the squad and we’d lost.

 

I’m allowed to have a difference of opinion.

 

If we can’t bat Luton Town without Lascelles In he FA Cup it’s even more imperative that he’s rested. This lad gets injured for 3 months - based on last time - we are relegated.  It’s not worth the risk.

[Elliottman]

Since returning from injury just 4 weeks ago hes completed 6 PL games and Rafa wanted him to play a 7th?

 

I think he’s the only player to have played every minute of the Xma fixtures. 

 

 

Should’ve been rested.  And given a few days holiday. 

 

He shouldn’t have been in the squad.

 

Yeah, but he’s Rafa Benítez, and you have no professional footballing experience. When Lascelles went off we were loads more vulnerable and you’d have been Captain Hindsight if he hadn’t been in the squad and we’d lost.

 

I’m allowed to have a difference of opinion.

 

If we can’t bat Luton Town without Lascelles In he FA Cup it’s even more imperative that he’s rested. This lad gets injured for 3 months - based on last time - we are relegated.  It’s not worth the risk.

 

Lejune and mbemba both injured. Who would you have started?