BONTEMPI Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 In an ideal world I'd like to see. Krul Janmaat Mbemba Colo Haidara Wijnaldum Sissoko Perez De Jong Aarons Mitrovic/Cisse But that isn't going to happen anytime soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I know, I don't want that either. It just sounds like he needs Wijnaldum pushed up far further? If only we just played with real fluidity you could really just keep a spine of DM, De Jong (being the central link) and Mitrovic. Having Perez, Wijnaldum, and Sissoko constantly working together to get to attacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 In an ideal world I'd like to see. Krul Janmaat Mbemba Colo Haidara Wijnaldum Sissoko Perez De Jong Aarons Mitrovic/Cisse But that isn't going to happen anytime soon. My team too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I know, I don't want that either. It just sounds like he needs Wijnaldum pushed up far further? If only we just played with real fluidity you could really just keep a spine of DM, De Jong (being the central link) and Mitrovic. Having Perez, Wijnaldum, and Sissoko constantly working together to get to attacking. De Jong causes an issue IMO, i really think Mitrovic flanked by Perez and Aarons with Sissoko and Wijnaldum making runs behind Mitrovic could be class with someone holding it all together behind them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 In an ideal world I'd like to see. Krul Janmaat Mbemba Colo Haidara Wijnaldum Sissoko Perez De Jong Aarons Mitrovic/Cisse But that isn't going to happen anytime soon. My team too. On paper yes. In reality fuck no, one of our biggest problems of recent times has always been the lack of protection the defence has received and this side provides absolutely no protection. We'd have to revert to a 433 and swap De Jong for a decent holding player (which of course we don't have) for it to stand a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I know, I don't want that either. It just sounds like he needs Wijnaldum pushed up far further? If only we just played with real fluidity you could really just keep a spine of DM, De Jong (being the central link) and Mitrovic. Having Perez, Wijnaldum, and Sissoko constantly working together to get to attacking. De Jong causes an issue IMO, i really think Mitrovic flanked by Perez and Aarons with Sissoko and Wijnaldum making runs behind Mitrovic could be class with someone holding it all together behind them. If we had a capable holder then this would be ideal but we just don't have a player who is physically imposing enough for the roll. I wonder if this is where the link from Lemina originated from, he'd do the job from the looks of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I know, I don't want that either. It just sounds like he needs Wijnaldum pushed up far further? If only we just played with real fluidity you could really just keep a spine of DM, De Jong (being the central link) and Mitrovic. Having Perez, Wijnaldum, and Sissoko constantly working together to get to attacking. De Jong causes an issue IMO, i really think Mitrovic flanked by Perez and Aarons with Sissoko and Wijnaldum making runs behind Mitrovic could be class with someone holding it all together behind them. Ain't got a problem with that either. I just really couldn't give a single crap about defensive midfielders anymore. We'd solve this problem with a strong CB pairing IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Nah it would still be a problem because the defense would constantly be isolated, we would still need one although i'm not saying get some talentless hack who contributes zero on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 In an ideal world I'd like to see. Krul Janmaat Mbemba Colo Haidara Wijnaldum Sissoko Perez De Jong Aarons Mitrovic/Cisse But that isn't going to happen anytime soon. My team too. On paper yes. In reality f*** no, one of our biggest problems of recent times has always been the lack of protection the defence has received and this side provides absolutely no protection. We'd have to revert to a 433 and swap De Jong for a decent holding player (which of course we don't have) for it to stand a chance. I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Think we'll chop and change line-ups a lot in the first few games tbh. Pre-season has barely been of use in terms of seeing combinations / understandings etc. Could well be to the detriment of results too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 So after 5 weeks of pre-season training and 7 pre-season friendlies (failing to win 5 of them) we still have absolutely no idea what the entire spine of the team is going to be. No idea who will start in the centre of defence, no idea who will lead the line and no idea about the formation and personnel of the midfield. 6 injuries to the first team squad (including the captain). Not going to pretend I've got a clue about who or how we'll play but I'm rapidly losing any meagre semblance of faith/hope I had in McClaren being a fresh start. He's publically toeing the party line, he's starting players that shouldn't be playing in this division and we're still making the same stupid mistakes in the first third that have been prevalent for the last 3 years. Fully aware that this could all change once the competitive games start and we suddenly flick the switch and look competent, it's happened before. Hope this is the case and we get off to a decent start and we've got 25-30 points by Xmas but I've seen nothing so far to convince me that this will take place. Still loads of work to do on and off the park. Let's hope they're up to it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 First 5 matches look difficult as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 So after 5 weeks of pre-season training and 7 pre-season friendlies (failing to win 5 of them) we still have absolutely no idea what the entire spine of the team is going to be. No idea who will start in the centre of defence, no idea who will lead the line and no idea about the formation and personnel of the midfield. 6 injuries to the first team squad (including the captain). Not going to pretend I've got a clue about who or how we'll play but I'm rapidly losing any meagre semblance of faith/hope I had in McClaren being a fresh start. He's publically toeing the party line, he's starting players that shouldn't be playing in this division and we're still making the same stupid mistakes in the first third that have been prevalent for the last 3 years. But apart from that it's all good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (1) I think we'll eventually see Sissoko as a CM next to a partner (with license to get forward constantly) (2) I think we'll see Wijnaldum in one of the front 3 behind striker positions, assuming that will be wide right or left. (3) I also think Perez is being touted as a starter wide left b/c of his abilities. (4) Sounds like De Jong is the central linchpin, did I hear him right saying that he was "our best player" ? or did I hear that wrong? Think he said De Jong was Ajax best player, seemed to like him though, queue a Pardew style benching in favour of someone totally unsuited to the number 10 role instead Sissoko will def start on the right. Tbh was a bit creepy, sounded like McClaren has the hots for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Sounds like it'll be Krul Janmaat Williamson Taylor Haidara Anita Colback Sissoko De Jong Wijnaldum Mitrovic Sounded like he only wants Wijnaldum further back when we're chasing a game. Krul Janmaat Williamson Taylor Haidara Anita Colback Sissoko De Jong Wijnaldum Mitrovic Krul Janmaat Williamson Taylor Haidara Anita Colback Sissoko De Jong Wijnaldum Mitrovic Happy days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Going to be a tough game but Southampton are away in Europe on Thursday, so hopefully that'll will help us. Christ if they're feeling effects from a Thursday Europa match on Saturday this early in the season, they might as well relegate themselves now. Sunday clearly this match is important to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Has Sissoko ever played as a CM? Even for France he's on the wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Has Sissoko ever played as a CM? Even for France he's on the wing. Spent his entire toulouse career playing centre mid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Yeah he's always been a CM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Has Sissoko ever played as a CM? Even for France he's on the wing. Spent his entire toulouse career playing centre mid I think thats why McLaren doesnt want Toulouse him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Has Sissoko ever played as a CM? Even for France he's on the wing. Spent his entire toulouse career playing centre mid Next to E. Capoue who was the Toulouse DM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Also played a few games for us there as well, game against Villa where Hatem went deep inside that Villa LBs asshole he played CM. To be frank most of his better performances for the club have been there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 One of Wijnaldum or Sissoko is going to be out of position this season, simple as that really. I can handle Moussa down the right because he won't be literally the only player bringing the ball forward, with a but of luck. Anita, Wijnaldum, De Jong - Sissoko, Perez, Mitrovic has got potential, but it'll take some serious patience. It'll also takean injury to Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Thanks, guys. It's odd that we've persisted with Colback and Anita when both are small and lightweight and instead have put our bigger more powerful players on the wing. It's the complete opposite of what every other club has done for generations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Cabella, Aarons, De Jong, Sissoko, Mitrovic, Perez, Cisse, Wijnaldum, Anita...Tiote, Colback. There's 11 players all with differing amounts of strengths who'll need to be blended into an efficient attacking unit. The talent is there but it needs a good manager to get the right balance. The defence is just a holocaust atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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