mrmojorisin75 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Agree with KI's general assessment of the club, but today we put out a team better than Sunderland and outplayed them for most of the time. One crazy moment denied us a win. Canny ridiculous to say it denied us a win seeing as we didn't score a goal. One of the 3-0s at home, all the excuses were about Cisse being ruled offside for a goal. Does no other team get a bad decision against sunderland, seeing as it's only us that they absolutely thrash consistently? Sick of hearing the excuses. Wullie man, fucks sake, as much as you hate the club you must have seen we were fucking robbed the day like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Don't think anyone was that bad today TBH, strange after a 3-0 loss to Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Easy to look at the ridiculous refereeing decisions like, but this carries on for as long as Ashley's here really. All the little reasons during matches are just insignificant sidenotes to the fact that the identity of our club and the idea of any club, but in this case our's, has been completely gutted from the inside out to the extent that the quagmire has engulfed our own fanbase and our identity as fans is supporting something because it bears a name and nothing more. There's no real desire to compete from owner to chairman, to staff, players and fans. Players that do are touted to bigger clubs by the media and our own club alike, fans that do are told they're deluded by the media, other fans and our own fans - such has Ashley stamped his identity upon NUFC. Other fans seem to wear failure as a badge of honour, as if to only prove their endurance for being relentlessly lied to, sold to, mocked and then asked for help in the form of not protesting, so that it doesn't 'affect the players' who by in quality and quantity alone are just one byproduct of why the atmosphere is so shit in the first place. People now go into derbies just not wanting to be embarrassed. That alone is fucking embarrassing and it's only something that goes unnoticed because it's gradual. That outlook in 2008 would have been laughed at and it should be now. Our identity as a club has almost entirely gone like. This is the one we have now, I don't see the one we had anywhere at any level. did you watch the game? this seems like an emo note to failure from someone who didn't watch what unfolded Yeah, I watched it until 2-0. The referee was terrible yes, but I think looking at the referee is just a sidenote. Pre-Pardew/Ashley Newcastle teams 1-0 down and a man down would have fought back to a 1-1 against a team as pitiful as that, shit ref or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Terrified to be optimistic, we're a different class from them here Well fuck. I was numb the last couple of these but raging at this one, seemed easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Agree with KI's general assessment of the club, but today we put out a team better than Sunderland and outplayed them for most of the time. One crazy moment denied us a win. Canny ridiculous to say it denied us a win seeing as we didn't score a goal. One of the 3-0s at home, all the excuses were about Cisse being ruled offside for a goal. Does no other team get a bad decision against sunderland, seeing as it's only us that they absolutely thrash consistently? Sick of hearing the excuses. Precisely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Lascelles looks all right. Make Gini captain and tell Colo to fuck off. Gini's effort in this second half has been disgraceful what? i know you love moussas's schlong but fuck me that's the worst statement i've heard in a long while He was anonymous for most of the second half and never got back to help. Sissoko actually put in a few decent crosses from what I saw you're blinded by his schlong, or something, mental opinion Given the backlash think I might just be a massive racist and got them mixed up tbh yeah gini was the one running about, tackling and running with the ball, moussa was the one standing around doing nothing That's just wrong on Sissoko like, your agenda against him is thicker than mine for him. I'll accept I'm wrong on Wijnaldum but to say Sissoko did nothing and just stood around is wrong me and me old man were sat looking for him all second half and he was always just standing about, i fucking saw it, it's not an agenda, he was terrible He put in at least 3 good crosses in the second half and towards the end when moved more central he was picking the ball up deep and driving the team forward. He also tried to get back when they countered which no other attacking player was doing he got involved after their second and the game was gone, when the chips were down he was nowhere, like he always is gini is x10 the player and man, let alone Mitro or Perez Its no coincidence he got more involved when he was moved central. Its not just because he started trying or some shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Look at the refs last two games reffed for us. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-fc-yahoo/obvious-handball-goes-unpunished-as-southampton-holds-on-for-2-1-win-over-newcastle-222518378.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29233096 (Red for abeid) He has 2 red cards & a missed penalty call in the last 3 games hes reffed against us. Dodgy as fuck man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Sorry, but I deffo think it was a pen, when it happened I was screaming at colo for being a slow useless cun#! Maybe it's my eagle like vision?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Well we didn't score a goal because we had to play a lot of the game without a player. Equally ridiculous to say we deserved to lose because we didn't score in the first 35 minutes. At the time of the red card, it looked like we would win. That's all I'm saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Agree with KI's general assessment of the club, but today we put out a team better than Sunderland and outplayed them for most of the time. One crazy moment denied us a win. Canny ridiculous to say it denied us a win seeing as we didn't score a goal. One of the 3-0s at home, all the excuses were about Cisse being ruled offside for a goal. Does no other team get a bad decision against sunderland, seeing as it's only us that they absolutely thrash consistently? Sick of hearing the excuses. Not sure how the above is correct - we battered them in the first half and that would have continued in the second half if we had kept 10 men on the pitch. Giving away a penalty and playing for half the game with 10 men changes absolutely everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Mind you, saying that he was too lenient on them card wise! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Easy to look at the ridiculous refereeing decisions like, but this carries on for as long as Ashley's here really. All the little reasons during matches are just insignificant sidenotes to the fact that the identity of our club and the idea of any club, but in this case our's, has been completely gutted from the inside out to the extent that the quagmire has engulfed our own fanbase and our identity as fans is supporting something because it bears a name and nothing more. There's no real desire to compete from owner to chairman, to staff, players and fans. Players that do are touted to bigger clubs by the media and our own club alike, fans that do are told they're deluded by the media, other fans and our own fans - such has Ashley stamped his identity upon NUFC. Other fans seem to wear failure as a badge of honour, as if to only prove their endurance for being relentlessly lied to, sold to, mocked and then asked for help in the form of not protesting, so that it doesn't 'affect the players' who by in quality and quantity alone are just one byproduct of why the atmosphere is so shit in the first place. People now go into derbies just not wanting to be embarrassed. That alone is fucking embarrassing and it's only something that goes unnoticed because it's gradual. That outlook in 2008 would have been laughed at and it should be now. Our identity as a club has almost entirely gone like. This is the one we have now, I don't see the one we had anywhere at any level. did you watch the game? this seems like an emo note to failure from someone who didn't watch what unfolded Yeah, I watched it until 2-0. The referee was terrible yes, but I think looking at the referee is just a sidenote. Pre-Pardew/Ashley Newcastle teams 1-0 down and a man down would have fought back to a 1-1 against a team as pitiful as that, shit ref or not. looking at the referee is a sidenote? you've all lost it, totally lost it like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Batter them in the first half. We couldn't score or come close against one of the worst defences in English football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Agree with KI's general assessment of the club, but today we put out a team better than Sunderland and outplayed them for most of the time. One crazy moment denied us a win. Canny ridiculous to say it denied us a win seeing as we didn't score a goal. One of the 3-0s at home, all the excuses were about Cisse being ruled offside for a goal. Does no other team get a bad decision against sunderland, seeing as it's only us that they absolutely thrash consistently? Sick of hearing the excuses. Not sure how the above is correct - we battered them in the first half and that would have continued in the second half if we had kept 10 men on the pitch. Giving away a penalty and playing for half the game with 10 men changes absolutely everything. Clearly I don't know we were going to win, but we were the better team and looked like we probably would win. That's about as certain as it gets in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Lascelles looks all right. Make Gini captain and tell Colo to fuck off. Gini's effort in this second half has been disgraceful what? i know you love moussas's schlong but fuck me that's the worst statement i've heard in a long while He was anonymous for most of the second half and never got back to help. Sissoko actually put in a few decent crosses from what I saw you're blinded by his schlong, or something, mental opinion Given the backlash think I might just be a massive racist and got them mixed up tbh yeah gini was the one running about, tackling and running with the ball, moussa was the one standing around doing nothing That's just wrong on Sissoko like, your agenda against him is thicker than mine for him. I'll accept I'm wrong on Wijnaldum but to say Sissoko did nothing and just stood around is wrong me and me old man were sat looking for him all second half and he was always just standing about, i fucking saw it, it's not an agenda, he was terrible He put in at least 3 good crosses in the second half and towards the end when moved more central he was picking the ball up deep and driving the team forward. He also tried to get back when they countered which no other attacking player was doing I thought Sissoko was pretty decent as well tbh. You only have to look at Thauvin giving the ball up at the slightest hint of a challenge to appreciate Sissoko's ability to hold the ball under pressure. Both him and Wijnaldum were our best creative threats. And I admit I was wrong about Gini not trying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Easy to look at the ridiculous refereeing decisions like, but this carries on for as long as Ashley's here really. All the little reasons during matches are just insignificant sidenotes to the fact that the identity of our club and the idea of any club, but in this case our's, has been completely gutted from the inside out to the extent that the quagmire has engulfed our own fanbase and our identity as fans is supporting something because it bears a name and nothing more. There's no real desire to compete from owner to chairman, to staff, players and fans. Players that do are touted to bigger clubs by the media and our own club alike, fans that do are told they're deluded by the media, other fans and our own fans - such has Ashley stamped his identity upon NUFC. Other fans seem to wear failure as a badge of honour, as if to only prove their endurance for being relentlessly lied to, sold to, mocked and then asked for help in the form of not protesting, so that it doesn't 'affect the players' who by in quality and quantity alone are just one byproduct of why the atmosphere is so shit in the first place. People now go into derbies just not wanting to be embarrassed. That alone is fucking embarrassing and it's only something that goes unnoticed because it's gradual. That outlook in 2008 would have been laughed at and it should be now. Our identity as a club has almost entirely gone like. This is the one we have now, I don't see the one we had anywhere at any level. did you watch the game? this seems like an emo note to failure from someone who didn't watch what unfolded Yeah, I watched it until 2-0. The referee was terrible yes, but I think looking at the referee is just a sidenote. Pre-Pardew/Ashley Newcastle teams 1-0 down and a man down would have fought back to a 1-1 against a team as pitiful as that, shit ref or not. It's too easy to look at 3-0 and say we bottled it after going 1-0 and a man down. In the 2nd half we gave a decent account for ourselves and fell victim to losing out going forward for the equaliser, even at 2-0 and 3-0 we still got up the pitch creating chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Batter them in the first half. We couldn't score or come close against one of the worst defences in English football. They were always going to get men behind the ball like that though with Allardyce, they had nothing going forwards. Sunderland have done the 0-0 routine before with the exact same players against better opposition than us. Its when they attack in games they get taken apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Agree with KI's general assessment of the club, but today we put out a team better than Sunderland and outplayed them for most of the time. One crazy moment denied us a win. Canny ridiculous to say it denied us a win seeing as we didn't score a goal. One of the 3-0s at home, all the excuses were about Cisse being ruled offside for a goal. Does no other team get a bad decision against sunderland, seeing as it's only us that they absolutely thrash consistently? Sick of hearing the excuses. Precisely. It wasn't one bad decision, it was a succession culminating with Cattermole somehow not getting booked and us with 10 men. We were the better team until the fluke 2nd goal and then it fell apart, pull yourselves together ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Batter them in the first half. We couldn't score or come close against one of the worst defences in English football. There was some fairly feeble finishing today though, we created some decent chances. Last week we put them all away, today every shot was a mis-hit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Lascelles looks all right. Make Gini captain and tell Colo to fuck off. Gini's effort in this second half has been disgraceful what? i know you love moussas's schlong but fuck me that's the worst statement i've heard in a long while He was anonymous for most of the second half and never got back to help. Sissoko actually put in a few decent crosses from what I saw you're blinded by his schlong, or something, mental opinion Given the backlash think I might just be a massive racist and got them mixed up tbh yeah gini was the one running about, tackling and running with the ball, moussa was the one standing around doing nothing That's just wrong on Sissoko like, your agenda against him is thicker than mine for him. I'll accept I'm wrong on Wijnaldum but to say Sissoko did nothing and just stood around is wrong me and me old man were sat looking for him all second half and he was always just standing about, i fucking saw it, it's not an agenda, he was terrible He put in at least 3 good crosses in the second half and towards the end when moved more central he was picking the ball up deep and driving the team forward. He also tried to get back when they countered which no other attacking player was doing I thought Sissoko was pretty decent as well tbh. You only have to look at Thauvin giving the ball up at the slightest hint of a challenge to appreciate Sissoko's ability to hold the ball under pressure. Both him and Wijnaldum were our best creative threats. And I admit I was wrong about Gini not trying good lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Our bad luck today was unbelievable, but we are still the better team. If any team scores early against Sunderland in future games they are knackered because all they do is counter attack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Another 3-0 How many is that? Four 3-0s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Look at the refs last two games reffed for us. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-fc-yahoo/obvious-handball-goes-unpunished-as-southampton-holds-on-for-2-1-win-over-newcastle-222518378.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29233096 (Red for abeid) He has 2 red cards & a missed penalty call in the last 3 games hes reffed against us. Dodgy as f*** man. Would need to see his whole record. He might just be a really shit ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Batter them in the first half. We couldn't score or come close against one of the worst defences in English football. Eh? We completely dominated the game with 11 men and could easily have been 2 or 3 up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Agree with KI's general assessment of the club, but today we put out a team better than Sunderland and outplayed them for most of the time. One crazy moment denied us a win. Canny ridiculous to say it denied us a win seeing as we didn't score a goal. One of the 3-0s at home, all the excuses were about Cisse being ruled offside for a goal. Does no other team get a bad decision against sunderland, seeing as it's only us that they absolutely thrash consistently? Sick of hearing the excuses. Precisely. It wasn't one bad decision, it was a succession culminating with Cattermole somehow not getting booked and us with 10 men. We were the better team until the fluke 2nd goal and then it fell apart, pull yourselves together ffs. Mojo, me and you get on and I think you're a smashing lad but this is one of those occasions me and you often arrive at where it's obvious we're gonna take opposing views. I believe in football you make your own luck and if you're going to lace your team with inexperience, defensive incompetence, no leadership and no proven goalscorer you're asking to be utterly bitten in the arse with decisions from time to time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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