Mick Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Hope he is ok. I don't think he is otherwise he wouldn't be in hospital. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It tells you something that even though KK didn't rate him hugely, he kept him around while getting rid of the likes of Kelly and Peacock, a real dressing room fave and all-round good guy apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It tells you something that even though KK didn't rate him hugely, he kept him around while getting rid of the likes of Kelly and Peacock, a real dressing room fave and all-round good guy apparently. Pav was better than his replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 An induced coma is relatively standard procedure in this situation. My Mum was in a similar situation a couple of years ago as an unfit 66 year old and pulled through absolutely fine, here's hoping Pav does the same Aye they cool you down and then slowly bring you back up to normal temp. Helps reduce damage. https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ipg386 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 This is horrible, howay man Pav Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It tells you something that even though KK didn't rate him hugely, he kept him around while getting rid of the likes of Kelly and Peacock, a real dressing room fave and all-round good guy apparently. Pav was better than his replacement. Shaka? I agree. I think KK saw Shaka as a more dominant 'keeper which he probably was, but Pavel was the much better shot stopper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Nah, Shaka was better in pretty much every respect. Loved Pav as a guy and this isn't the time for it, but let's not rewrite history regarding his ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Shaka commanded his area better and was better at taking crosses but Pavel was the better shot stopper and far more comfortable with backpasses although he gave us plenty of heart in the mouth moments when dribbling around the opposition centre forward. Then Given came in and was far better than them both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Shay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Shaka commanded his area better and was better at taking crosses but Pavel was the better shot stopper and far more comfortable with backpasses although he gave us plenty of heart in the mouth moments when dribbling around the opposition centre forward. Then Given came in and was far better than them both. That, really. There's no rewriting of history, I had a season ticket back then and Pav was the better keeper in my eyes. That's my take, but both had their good and bad points though and depending on the individual some may rate one higher than the other but Given was a good step ahead of either of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Shaka commanded his area better and was better at taking crosses but Pavel was the better shot stopper and far more comfortable with backpasses although he gave us plenty of heart in the mouth moments when dribbling around the opposition centre forward. Then Given came in and was far better than them both. That, really. There's no rewriting of history, I had a season ticket back then and Pav was the better keeper in my eyes. That's my take, but both had their good and bad points though and depending on the individual some may rate one higher than the other but Given was a good step ahead of either of them. I think this is fair. I didn't think Shaka was as good. Saw him playing for Reading a couple of times and he flapped at crosses, but he did improve when he played for us. Still preferred Pav by a long way though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Didn't like KK bringing in Shaka in the 95-96 season but knew Pav wasn't really his ideal keeper either. Pav had his off days as did Shaka. Just liked Pav better as he was the keeper in goal when I started to support the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Everyone forgetting about Mike Hooper; he really was poor. Pav mentions that KK asked him when he was going to win a game for us just as he was going out in that Liverpool game. KK obviously thought it would inspire him, Pav says it destroyed his confidence and Lpool then scored in the first couple of minutes. Come on Pav; good luck today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 The whole Shaka/Pav debate was a thing at the time as well. I personally preferred Shaka, but both had strengths where the other had weaknesses, as Wallsendmag pointed out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Unfortunately at the end of it, neither were good enough for a team challenging despite both being likable personalities on and off the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I think it was a close one between Shaka and Pav, but I always thought Shaka was the better keeper personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Everyone forgetting about Mike Hooper; he really was poor. Pav mentions that KK asked him when he was going to win a game for us just as he was going out in that Liverpool game. KK obviously thought it would inspire him, Pav says it destroyed his confidence and Lpool then scored in the first couple of minutes. Come on Pav; good luck today. Nope, I mentioned him in an earlier post. It was a total head scratcher when we signed what was in essence Liverpool's third choice keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Is it wullie who has an unreasonable hatred for shaka? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Can't believe Steve Wraith is his agent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 It tells you something that even though KK didn't rate him hugely, he kept him around while getting rid of the likes of Kelly and Peacock, a real dressing room fave and all-round good guy apparently. Kelly was as well, Keegan rightly thought Ned wouldnt do it in the PL. Peacock, as far as I was aware was depserately wanted but decided to move back to London due to problems with his kids and wanted to be closer to his family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Can't believe Steve Wraith is an agent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 He's a promoter not an agent. He's trying to flog a book not turn out in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 He's a promoter not an agent. He's trying to flog a book not turn out in the PL. He's a grade A arsehole. Fully expecting the cunt to try and jump on screen in the new Krays movie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 He's a promoter not an agent. He's trying to flog a book not turn out in the PL. He's a grade A arsehole. Fully expecting the c*** to try and jump on screen in the new Krays movie Seen him in the Walls End pub a couple of years ago. Expected him to be a right prick but was surprised to find he's actually a sound lad. Spent about 20 minutes talking about NUFC with him and he was canny crack. Can totally understand why people who've never met him would think otherwise though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Wraith will do anything for money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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